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* oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
@ 2017-04-02  3:52 Tetsuo Handa
  2017-04-03  8:38 ` Michal Hocko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Tetsuo Handa @ 2017-04-02  3:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: vdavydov, hannes, mhocko, rientjes; +Cc: linux-mm

I noticed that SysRq-f prints

  "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled"

when no process was selected (rather than when oom killer was disabled).
This message was not printed until Linux 4.8 because commit 7c5f64f84483bd13
("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom") changed
 from "return true;" to "return !!oc->chosen;" when is_sysrq_oom(oc) is true.

Is this what we meant?

[  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
[  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
[  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
[  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
[  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
[  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
[  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
[  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
[  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
[  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
[  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
[  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled

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* Re: oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
  2017-04-02  3:52 oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message Tetsuo Handa
@ 2017-04-03  8:38 ` Michal Hocko
  2017-04-03  9:11   ` Michal Hocko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michal Hocko @ 2017-04-03  8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tetsuo Handa; +Cc: vdavydov, hannes, rientjes, linux-mm

On Sun 02-04-17 12:52:55, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> I noticed that SysRq-f prints
> 
>   "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled"
> 
> when no process was selected (rather than when oom killer was disabled).
> This message was not printed until Linux 4.8 because commit 7c5f64f84483bd13
> ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom") changed
>  from "return true;" to "return !!oc->chosen;" when is_sysrq_oom(oc) is true.
> 
> Is this what we meant?
> 
> [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled

So, what about this?
---

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* Re: oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
  2017-04-03  8:38 ` Michal Hocko
@ 2017-04-03  9:11   ` Michal Hocko
  2017-04-03 10:10     ` Tetsuo Handa
  2017-04-03 10:10     ` Vladimir Davydov
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michal Hocko @ 2017-04-03  9:11 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Tetsuo Handa; +Cc: hannes, rientjes, linux-mm, Vladimir Davydov

[Fixup Vladimir email address]

On Mon 03-04-17 10:38:00, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Sun 02-04-17 12:52:55, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > I noticed that SysRq-f prints
> > 
> >   "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled"
> > 
> > when no process was selected (rather than when oom killer was disabled).
> > This message was not printed until Linux 4.8 because commit 7c5f64f84483bd13
> > ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom") changed
> >  from "return true;" to "return !!oc->chosen;" when is_sysrq_oom(oc) is true.
> > 
> > Is this what we meant?
> > 
> > [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> 
> So, what about this?
> ---
> From 6721932dba5b5143be0fa8110450231038af4238 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:30:14 +0200
> Subject: [PATCH] oom: improve oom disable handling
> 
> Tetsuo has reported that sysrq triggered OOM killer will print a
> misleading information when no tasks are selected:
> 
> [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> 
> The real reason is that there are no eligible tasks for the OOM killer
> to select but since 7c5f64f84483bd13 ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim
> selection code for memcg and global oom") the semantic of out_of_memory
> has changed without updating moom_callback.
> 
> This patch updates moom_callback to tell that no task was eligible
> which is the case for both oom killer disabled and no eligible tasks.
> In order to help distinguish first case from the second add printk to
> both oom_killer_{enable,disable}. This information is useful on its own
> because it might help debugging potential memory allocation failures.
> 
> Fixes: 7c5f64f84483bd13 ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom")
> Reported-by: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> ---
>  drivers/tty/sysrq.c | 2 +-
>  mm/oom_kill.c       | 2 ++
>  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> 
> diff --git a/drivers/tty/sysrq.c b/drivers/tty/sysrq.c
> index 71136742e606..a91f58dc2cb6 100644
> --- a/drivers/tty/sysrq.c
> +++ b/drivers/tty/sysrq.c
> @@ -370,7 +370,7 @@ static void moom_callback(struct work_struct *ignored)
>  
>  	mutex_lock(&oom_lock);
>  	if (!out_of_memory(&oc))
> -		pr_info("OOM request ignored because killer is disabled\n");
> +		pr_info("OOM request ignored. No task eligible\n");
>  	mutex_unlock(&oom_lock);
>  }
>  
> diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> index 51c091849dcb..ad2b112cdf3e 100644
> --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> @@ -682,6 +682,7 @@ void exit_oom_victim(void)
>  void oom_killer_enable(void)
>  {
>  	oom_killer_disabled = false;
> +	pr_info("OOM killer enabled.\n");
>  }
>  
>  /**
> @@ -718,6 +719,7 @@ bool oom_killer_disable(signed long timeout)
>  		oom_killer_enable();
>  		return false;
>  	}
> +	pr_info("OOM killer disabled.\n");
>  
>  	return true;
>  }
> -- 
> 2.11.0
> 
> 
> -- 
> Michal Hocko
> SUSE Labs

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* Re: oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
  2017-04-03  9:11   ` Michal Hocko
@ 2017-04-03 10:10     ` Tetsuo Handa
  2017-04-03 10:10     ` Vladimir Davydov
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Tetsuo Handa @ 2017-04-03 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: mhocko; +Cc: hannes, rientjes, linux-mm, vdavydov.dev

Michal Hocko wrote:
> [Fixup Vladimir email address]
> 
> On Mon 03-04-17 10:38:00, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Sun 02-04-17 12:52:55, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > I noticed that SysRq-f prints
> > > 
> > >   "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled"
> > > 
> > > when no process was selected (rather than when oom killer was disabled).
> > > This message was not printed until Linux 4.8 because commit 7c5f64f84483bd13
> > > ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom") changed
> > >  from "return true;" to "return !!oc->chosen;" when is_sysrq_oom(oc) is true.
> > > 
> > > Is this what we meant?
> > > 
> > > [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > 
> > So, what about this?

I thought below change in out_of_memory().

-	return !!oc->chosen;
+	return oc->chosen || is_sysrq_oom(oc);

You can take either approach.

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* Re: oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
  2017-04-03  9:11   ` Michal Hocko
  2017-04-03 10:10     ` Tetsuo Handa
@ 2017-04-03 10:10     ` Vladimir Davydov
  2017-04-03 10:20       ` Michal Hocko
  1 sibling, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Davydov @ 2017-04-03 10:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michal Hocko; +Cc: Tetsuo Handa, hannes, rientjes, linux-mm

On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 11:11:53AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [Fixup Vladimir email address]
> 
> On Mon 03-04-17 10:38:00, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Sun 02-04-17 12:52:55, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > I noticed that SysRq-f prints
> > > 
> > >   "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled"
> > > 
> > > when no process was selected (rather than when oom killer was disabled).
> > > This message was not printed until Linux 4.8 because commit 7c5f64f84483bd13
> > > ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom") changed
> > >  from "return true;" to "return !!oc->chosen;" when is_sysrq_oom(oc) is true.
> > > 
> > > Is this what we meant?

No that was not intentional.

> > > 
> > > [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > 
> > So, what about this?
> > ---
> > From 6721932dba5b5143be0fa8110450231038af4238 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:30:14 +0200
> > Subject: [PATCH] oom: improve oom disable handling
> > 
> > Tetsuo has reported that sysrq triggered OOM killer will print a
> > misleading information when no tasks are selected:
> > 
> > [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > 
> > The real reason is that there are no eligible tasks for the OOM killer
> > to select but since 7c5f64f84483bd13 ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim
> > selection code for memcg and global oom") the semantic of out_of_memory
> > has changed without updating moom_callback.
> > 
> > This patch updates moom_callback to tell that no task was eligible
> > which is the case for both oom killer disabled and no eligible tasks.
> > In order to help distinguish first case from the second add printk to
> > both oom_killer_{enable,disable}. This information is useful on its own
> > because it might help debugging potential memory allocation failures.

I think this makes sense although personally I find the "No task
eligible" message in case OOM killer is disabled manually a bit
confusing: the thing is in order to find out why an OOM request
failed you'll have to scan the full log, which might be unavailable.
May be, we'd better just make out_of_memory() return true in case
is_sysrq_oom() is true and no task was found, as it used to be.

> > 
> > Fixes: 7c5f64f84483bd13 ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom")
> > Reported-by: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
> > Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > ---
> >  drivers/tty/sysrq.c | 2 +-
> >  mm/oom_kill.c       | 2 ++
> >  2 files changed, 3 insertions(+), 1 deletion(-)
> > 
> > diff --git a/drivers/tty/sysrq.c b/drivers/tty/sysrq.c
> > index 71136742e606..a91f58dc2cb6 100644
> > --- a/drivers/tty/sysrq.c
> > +++ b/drivers/tty/sysrq.c
> > @@ -370,7 +370,7 @@ static void moom_callback(struct work_struct *ignored)
> >  
> >  	mutex_lock(&oom_lock);
> >  	if (!out_of_memory(&oc))
> > -		pr_info("OOM request ignored because killer is disabled\n");
> > +		pr_info("OOM request ignored. No task eligible\n");
> >  	mutex_unlock(&oom_lock);
> >  }
> >  
> > diff --git a/mm/oom_kill.c b/mm/oom_kill.c
> > index 51c091849dcb..ad2b112cdf3e 100644
> > --- a/mm/oom_kill.c
> > +++ b/mm/oom_kill.c
> > @@ -682,6 +682,7 @@ void exit_oom_victim(void)
> >  void oom_killer_enable(void)
> >  {
> >  	oom_killer_disabled = false;
> > +	pr_info("OOM killer enabled.\n");
> >  }
> >  
> >  /**
> > @@ -718,6 +719,7 @@ bool oom_killer_disable(signed long timeout)
> >  		oom_killer_enable();
> >  		return false;
> >  	}
> > +	pr_info("OOM killer disabled.\n");
> >  
> >  	return true;
> >  }

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* Re: oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
  2017-04-03 10:10     ` Vladimir Davydov
@ 2017-04-03 10:20       ` Michal Hocko
  2017-04-04 13:23         ` Michal Hocko
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michal Hocko @ 2017-04-03 10:20 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Davydov; +Cc: Tetsuo Handa, hannes, rientjes, linux-mm

On Mon 03-04-17 13:10:41, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 11:11:53AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > [Fixup Vladimir email address]
> > 
> > On Mon 03-04-17 10:38:00, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > On Sun 02-04-17 12:52:55, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > > I noticed that SysRq-f prints
> > > > 
> > > >   "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled"
> > > > 
> > > > when no process was selected (rather than when oom killer was disabled).
> > > > This message was not printed until Linux 4.8 because commit 7c5f64f84483bd13
> > > > ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim selection code for memcg and global oom") changed
> > > >  from "return true;" to "return !!oc->chosen;" when is_sysrq_oom(oc) is true.
> > > > 
> > > > Is this what we meant?
> 
> No that was not intentional.
> 
> > > > 
> > > > [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > > [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > > [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > > [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > > [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > > [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > > [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > > [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > > [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > > [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > > [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > > [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > 
> > > So, what about this?
> > > ---
> > > From 6721932dba5b5143be0fa8110450231038af4238 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001
> > > From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
> > > Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2017 10:30:14 +0200
> > > Subject: [PATCH] oom: improve oom disable handling
> > > 
> > > Tetsuo has reported that sysrq triggered OOM killer will print a
> > > misleading information when no tasks are selected:
> > > 
> > > [  713.805315] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  713.808920] Out of memory: Kill process 4468 ((agetty)) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > [  713.814913] Killed process 4468 ((agetty)) total-vm:43704kB, anon-rss:1760kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > [  714.004805] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.005936] Out of memory: Kill process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) score 0 or sacrifice child
> > > [  714.008117] Killed process 4469 (systemd-cgroups) total-vm:10704kB, anon-rss:120kB, file-rss:0kB, shmem-rss:0kB
> > > [  714.189310] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.193425] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > [  714.381313] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.385158] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > [  714.573320] sysrq: SysRq : Manual OOM execution
> > > [  714.576988] sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled
> > > 
> > > The real reason is that there are no eligible tasks for the OOM killer
> > > to select but since 7c5f64f84483bd13 ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim
> > > selection code for memcg and global oom") the semantic of out_of_memory
> > > has changed without updating moom_callback.
> > > 
> > > This patch updates moom_callback to tell that no task was eligible
> > > which is the case for both oom killer disabled and no eligible tasks.
> > > In order to help distinguish first case from the second add printk to
> > > both oom_killer_{enable,disable}. This information is useful on its own
> > > because it might help debugging potential memory allocation failures.
> 
> I think this makes sense although personally I find the "No task
> eligible" message in case OOM killer is disabled manually a bit
> confusing: the thing is in order to find out why an OOM request
> failed you'll have to scan the full log, which might be unavailable.
> May be, we'd better just make out_of_memory() return true in case
> is_sysrq_oom() is true and no task was found, as it used to be.

Well, the thing is that the oom killer is disabled only during the PM
suspend and I do not expect we would grow new users. And it is quite
unlikely to invoke sysrq during that time. The OOM killer is disabled is
unlikely to be too far in the past in that case. It is also a matter of
fact that no tasks are eligible during that time period so the message
is not misleading. I have considered is_sysrq_oom approach but I would
rather not add yet another exception for that path, we have quite some
of them already. Especially when the only point of that exception would
be to control a log message.
-- 
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SUSE Labs

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* Re: oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
  2017-04-03 10:20       ` Michal Hocko
@ 2017-04-04 13:23         ` Michal Hocko
  2017-04-04 13:36           ` Vladimir Davydov
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 8+ messages in thread
From: Michal Hocko @ 2017-04-04 13:23 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Vladimir Davydov; +Cc: Tetsuo Handa, hannes, rientjes, linux-mm

On Mon 03-04-17 12:20:29, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 03-04-17 13:10:41, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 11:11:53AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > [Fixup Vladimir email address]
> > > 
> > > On Mon 03-04-17 10:38:00, Michal Hocko wrote:
[...]
> > > > The real reason is that there are no eligible tasks for the OOM killer
> > > > to select but since 7c5f64f84483bd13 ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim
> > > > selection code for memcg and global oom") the semantic of out_of_memory
> > > > has changed without updating moom_callback.
> > > > 
> > > > This patch updates moom_callback to tell that no task was eligible
> > > > which is the case for both oom killer disabled and no eligible tasks.
> > > > In order to help distinguish first case from the second add printk to
> > > > both oom_killer_{enable,disable}. This information is useful on its own
> > > > because it might help debugging potential memory allocation failures.
> > 
> > I think this makes sense although personally I find the "No task
> > eligible" message in case OOM killer is disabled manually a bit
> > confusing: the thing is in order to find out why an OOM request
> > failed you'll have to scan the full log, which might be unavailable.
> > May be, we'd better just make out_of_memory() return true in case
> > is_sysrq_oom() is true and no task was found, as it used to be.
> 
> Well, the thing is that the oom killer is disabled only during the PM
> suspend and I do not expect we would grow new users. And it is quite
> unlikely to invoke sysrq during that time. The OOM killer is disabled is
> unlikely to be too far in the past in that case. It is also a matter of
> fact that no tasks are eligible during that time period so the message
> is not misleading. I have considered is_sysrq_oom approach but I would
> rather not add yet another exception for that path, we have quite some
> of them already. Especially when the only point of that exception would
> be to control a log message.

Does this reasoning make sense to you? Can I post the patch to Andrew or
you sill see strong reasons to tweak out_of_memory?
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SUSE Labs

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* Re: oom: Bogus "sysrq: OOM request ignored because killer is disabled" message
  2017-04-04 13:23         ` Michal Hocko
@ 2017-04-04 13:36           ` Vladimir Davydov
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 8+ messages in thread
From: Vladimir Davydov @ 2017-04-04 13:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Michal Hocko; +Cc: Tetsuo Handa, hannes, rientjes, linux-mm

On Tue, Apr 04, 2017 at 03:23:50PM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> On Mon 03-04-17 12:20:29, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > On Mon 03-04-17 13:10:41, Vladimir Davydov wrote:
> > > On Mon, Apr 03, 2017 at 11:11:53AM +0200, Michal Hocko wrote:
> > > > [Fixup Vladimir email address]
> > > > 
> > > > On Mon 03-04-17 10:38:00, Michal Hocko wrote:
> [...]
> > > > > The real reason is that there are no eligible tasks for the OOM killer
> > > > > to select but since 7c5f64f84483bd13 ("mm: oom: deduplicate victim
> > > > > selection code for memcg and global oom") the semantic of out_of_memory
> > > > > has changed without updating moom_callback.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This patch updates moom_callback to tell that no task was eligible
> > > > > which is the case for both oom killer disabled and no eligible tasks.
> > > > > In order to help distinguish first case from the second add printk to
> > > > > both oom_killer_{enable,disable}. This information is useful on its own
> > > > > because it might help debugging potential memory allocation failures.
> > > 
> > > I think this makes sense although personally I find the "No task
> > > eligible" message in case OOM killer is disabled manually a bit
> > > confusing: the thing is in order to find out why an OOM request
> > > failed you'll have to scan the full log, which might be unavailable.
> > > May be, we'd better just make out_of_memory() return true in case
> > > is_sysrq_oom() is true and no task was found, as it used to be.
> > 
> > Well, the thing is that the oom killer is disabled only during the PM
> > suspend and I do not expect we would grow new users. And it is quite
> > unlikely to invoke sysrq during that time. The OOM killer is disabled is
> > unlikely to be too far in the past in that case. It is also a matter of
> > fact that no tasks are eligible during that time period so the message
> > is not misleading. I have considered is_sysrq_oom approach but I would
> > rather not add yet another exception for that path, we have quite some
> > of them already. Especially when the only point of that exception would
> > be to control a log message.
> 
> Does this reasoning make sense to you? Can I post the patch to Andrew or
> you sill see strong reasons to tweak out_of_memory?

I think your arguments are fair enough. I don't have any objections.

Thanks.

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