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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
To: Mauro Carvalho Chehab <mchehab@s-opensource.com>
Cc: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 1/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control
Date: Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:12:10 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170416091209.GB7456@valkosipuli.retiisi.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170414232332.63850d7b@vento.lan>

Hi Mauro,

On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 11:23:32PM -0300, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> Em Tue, 14 Feb 2017 14:20:22 +0200
> Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com> escreveu:
> 
> > Add a V4L2 control class for voice coil lens driver devices. These are
> > simple devices that are used to move a camera lens from its resting
> > position.
> 
> From some past threads with this patch, you mentioned that:
> 
> "The FOCUS_ABSOLUTE control really is not a best control ID to
>  control a voice coil driver's current."
> 
> However, I'm not seeing any explanation there at the thread, at
> the patch description or at the documentation explaining why, and,
> more important, when someone should use the focus control or the
> camera voice coil control.

It should be available in the thread. Nevertheless, V4L2_CID_FOCUS_ABSOLUTE
is documented as follows (emphasis mine):

	This control sets the *focal point* of the camera to the specified
	position. The unit is undefined. Positive values set the focus
	closer to the camera, negative values towards infinity.

What you control in voice coil devices is current (in Ampères) and the
current only has a relatively loose relation to the focal point.
Additionally, increasing the current brings the focus closer, not farther.

I anticipate adding controls for ringing compensation in the future.
Virtually all other devices except this one do ringing compensation and
there's some control to be done for that.

How about adding such an explanation added to the commit message?

> 
> Worse than that, patch 2/2 gives the false sensation that both
> controls are equal.
> 
> Ok, I understand that they need to be identical on the existing
> driver, in order to keep backward compatibility, but I'm afraid
> that, without a clear distinction between them at the documentation,
> people may just clone the existing code on other drivers.

Indeed. The only reason that I'm not just replacing FOCUS_ABSOLUTE with the
new contorol is backwards compatibility. But as Pavel pointed out, he's
likely the sole user of this device that can only be found (as far as we
commonly are aware) in the Nokia N900.

I'm happy to just switch the control, and Pavel mentioned he's happy with
that. It would avoid copying the code in new drivers --- which I would most
certainly point out anyway.

> 
> So, please add more details to patch 1/2.

Let me know if you're happy with the above.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus
e-mail: sakari.ailus@iki.fi	XMPP: sailus@retiisi.org.uk

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-04-16  9:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-14 12:20 [PATCH v3 0/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 22:47   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-15  7:15     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-15  8:09       ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 22:26         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-20 22:48           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-15  2:23   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-15  7:12     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-16  9:12     ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2017-04-19 13:51       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24  9:30         ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 13:38           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 13:38             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 21:29             ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 21:29               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:47               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:47                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:05                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:08                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:23                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:30                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:30                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:28                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:51                           ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:51                             ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 16:55                         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:55                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-26 10:53                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                 ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was " Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:13                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:13                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 13:23                     ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 13:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 15:43                       ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 15:43                         ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 22:51                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-27  5:52                           ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-27  5:52                             ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-07-13  7:57                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  7:57                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:05                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:05                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:58                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:58                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 22:28                         ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  6:29                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  6:32                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  8:02                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 10:59                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix typos Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:01                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Add support for GRBG10 format conversion Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:04                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Introduce define for lookup table size Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 11:17                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 12:45                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 12:56                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 23:23                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-19  9:13                                     ` [libv4l]: How to do 10-bit support? Stand-alone conversions? Pavel Machek
2018-03-16 20:55                                     ` [RFC, libv4l]: Make libv4l2 usable on devices with complex pipeline Pavel Machek
2018-03-19  9:47                                       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 10:23                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 10:47                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 11:11                                             ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:00                                               ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 12:15                                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:48                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:29                                                     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 22:18                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:45                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 13:26                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-20  7:50                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-15 20:01                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-15 22:03                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-16 20:53                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 21:01                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  6:18                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06  8:46                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  8:53                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 10:01                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 16:57                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-06-06 21:27                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07 12:22                                                                     ` [PATCH, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 10:51                                                                 ` [RFC, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 11:16                                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 20:37                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 17:13                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-06-06 10:23                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07  7:25                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:10                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 10:42                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-21 10:33                             ` [patch, libv4l]: add sdlcam example for testing digital still camera functionality Pavel Machek
2017-05-26 20:41                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-27  9:27                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  6:13                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  7:32                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-29  8:02                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-06-14 11:16                                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-06-14 20:41                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  8:36                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  8:07                           ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                       ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                     ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was Re: support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:26                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:26                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-29  9:19                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  9:19                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-21 22:00                     ` Camera support, Prague next week, sdlcam Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  7:36                       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  7:36                         ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  8:31                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  8:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 19:24                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 19:24                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 20:15                             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 20:15                               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 21:02                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-23 21:02                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-31 21:28                               ` Nokia N9: fun with camera Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07             ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:57               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:57                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:20                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-28 22:00         ` [PATCH v3 1/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  1:46           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 10:49         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-05-13 11:08           ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ad5820: Use VOICE_COIL_CURRENT control Sakari Ailus

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