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From: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>
To: Tomasz Figa <tfiga@chromium.org>
Cc: mchehab+samsung@kernel.org, mchehab@s-opensource.com,
	Hans Verkuil <hverkuil@xs4all.nl>,
	pali.rohar@gmail.com, sre@kernel.org,
	Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux Media Mailing List <linux-media@vger.kernel.org>,
	Hans Verkuil <hans.verkuil@cisco.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC, libv4l]: Make libv4l2 usable on devices with complex pipeline
Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2018 09:25:36 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180607072536.GA12569@amd> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAAFQd5ACz1DNW07-vk6rCffC0aNcUG_9+YVNK9HmOTg0+-3yzg@mail.gmail.com>

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Hi!

> I guess that could give some basic camera functionality on OMAP3-like hardware.

Yeah, and that is the goal.

> For most of the current generation of imaging subsystems (e.g. Intel
> IPU3, Rockchip RKISP1) it's not enough. The reason is that there is
> more to be handled by userspace than just setting controls:
>  - configuring pixel formats, resolutions, crops, etc. through the
> whole pipeline - I guess that could be preconfigured per use case
> inside the configuration file, though,
>  - forwarding buffers between capture and processing pipelines, i.e.
> DQBUF raw frame from CSI2 video node and QBUF to ISP video node,
>  - handling metadata CAPTURE and OUTPUT buffers controlling the 3A
> feedback loop - this might be optional if all we need is just ability
> to capture some frames, but required for getting good quality,
>  - actually mapping legacy controls into the above metadata,

I just wanted to add few things:

It seems IPU3 and RKISP1 is really similar to what I have on
N900. Forwarding frames between parts of processing pipeline is not
neccessary, but the other parts are there.

There are also two points where you can gather the image data, either
(almost) raw GRBG10 data from the sensor, or scaled YUV data ready for
display. [And how to display that data without CPU involvement is
another, rather big, topic.]

Anyway, legacy applications expect simple webcams with bad pictures,
low resolution, and no AF support. And we should be able to provide
them with just that.

Best regards,

									Pavel
-- 
(english) http://www.livejournal.com/~pavelmachek
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-07  7:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 152+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-02-14 12:20 [PATCH v3 0/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 1/2] " Sakari Ailus
2017-02-14 22:47   ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-15  7:15     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-15  8:09       ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-20 22:26         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-02-20 22:48           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-15  2:23   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-15  7:12     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-16  9:12     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-04-19 13:51       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24  9:30         ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 13:38           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 13:38             ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-24 21:29             ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 21:29               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:47               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:47                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:05                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:05                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:08                   ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25  8:08                     ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:23                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:30                       ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 11:30                         ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:28                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:28                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 12:51                           ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 12:51                             ` Pali Rohár
2017-04-25 16:55                         ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:55                           ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:51                       ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                   ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-25 16:53                     ` Nicolas Dufresne
2017-04-26 10:53                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                 ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was " Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 10:53                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:13                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:13                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 13:23                     ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 13:23                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 15:43                       ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 15:43                         ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-26 22:51                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 22:51                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-27  5:52                           ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-04-27  5:52                             ` Ivaylo Dimitrov
2017-07-13  7:57                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  7:57                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:05                         ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:05                           ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2017-05-03 19:58                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-03 19:58                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-08 22:28                         ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  6:29                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  6:32                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-09  8:02                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 10:59                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix typos Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:01                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Add support for GRBG10 format conversion Pavel Machek
2017-05-09 11:04                             ` [patch, libv4l]: Introduce define for lookup table size Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 11:17                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 12:45                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 12:56                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-16 23:23                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-19  9:13                                     ` [libv4l]: How to do 10-bit support? Stand-alone conversions? Pavel Machek
2018-03-16 20:55                                     ` [RFC, libv4l]: Make libv4l2 usable on devices with complex pipeline Pavel Machek
2018-03-19  9:47                                       ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 10:23                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 10:47                                           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 11:11                                             ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:00                                               ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 12:15                                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 12:48                                                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:29                                                     ` Hans Verkuil
2018-03-19 22:18                                                       ` Pavel Machek
2018-03-19 13:45                                                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-19 13:26                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-03-20  7:50                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-15 20:01                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-15 22:03                                                       ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-05-16 20:53                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-02 21:01                                                         ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  6:18                                                           ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06  8:46                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06  8:53                                                               ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 10:01                                                                 ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 16:57                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-06-06 21:27                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07 12:22                                                                     ` [PATCH, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 10:51                                                                 ` [RFC, " Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 11:16                                                                   ` Tomasz Figa
2018-06-06 20:37                                                                     ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-06 17:13                                                                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2018-06-06 10:23                                                             ` Pavel Machek
2018-06-07  7:25                                                             ` Pavel Machek [this message]
2017-05-09 11:10                             ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-05-16 10:42                             ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-21 10:33                             ` [patch, libv4l]: add sdlcam example for testing digital still camera functionality Pavel Machek
2017-05-26 20:41                               ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-27  9:27                                 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  6:13                               ` Hans Verkuil
2017-05-29  7:32                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-29  8:02                                   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-06-14 11:16                                     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-06-14 20:41                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  8:36                                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-05-09  8:07                           ` [patch, libv4l]: fix integer overflow Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                       ` [patch] autogain support for bayer10 format (was Re: [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2) Pavel Machek
2017-04-30 22:48                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                     ` [patch] propagating controls in libv4l2 was Re: support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-07-13  9:49                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-26 11:26                   ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-26 11:26                     ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-29  9:19                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  9:19                       ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-21 22:00                     ` Camera support, Prague next week, sdlcam Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  7:36                       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  7:36                         ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-22  8:31                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-22  8:31                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                         ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 18:54                           ` Pavel Machek
2017-10-23 19:24                           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 19:24                             ` Hans Verkuil
2017-10-23 20:15                             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 20:15                               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-10-23 21:02                               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-23 21:02                                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-10-31 21:28                               ` Nokia N9: fun with camera Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01  6:36                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-11-01 15:32                                     ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07             ` support autofocus / autogain in libv4l2 Pavel Machek
2017-04-24 22:07               ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  1:57               ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  1:57                 ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-04-25  8:20                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25  8:20                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                 ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-25 11:23                   ` Pavel Machek
2017-04-28 22:00         ` [PATCH v3 1/2] v4l: Add camera voice coil lens control class, current control Pavel Machek
2017-04-29  1:46           ` Mauro Carvalho Chehab
2017-05-12 10:49         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-05-13 11:08           ` Pavel Machek
2017-02-14 12:20 ` [PATCH v3 2/2] ad5820: Use VOICE_COIL_CURRENT control Sakari Ailus

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