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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen@gmail.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org,
	open list <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org,
	Daniel Vetter <daniel.vetter@intel.com>,
	Ilia Mirkin <imirkin@alum.mit.edu>
Subject: Re: [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality.
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:18:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170418141827.11634103@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1492509617.27392.19.camel@redhat.com>

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On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:00:17 +0200
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com> wrote:

>   Hi,
> 
> > > ppc64 (big endian) virtual machine, running with qemu stdvga & bochs-drm
> > > driver.  Xorg with modesetting driver uses DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 (one and
> > > only format supported by bochs-drm), and we have to interpret that in
> > > bigendian byte order on the host side to get a correct display.  
> > 
> > I wonder if that is just an oversight from trying to match OpenGL
> > formats to DRM formats. It's full of gotcha's.
> > 
> > Did you try with GLAMOR? Do you see a difference with and without
> > GLAMOR? Hmm, but you have no GPU support, so GLAMOR would be through a
> > Mesa software renderer? I think I heard someone say something about
> > Mesa software on BE...  
> 
> So, did some more testing to see where we stand.
> 
> Historical note:  RHEL-6.9 (gnome 2) works fine.  Not of much interest
> here, it drives the qemu stdvga with offb, not bochs-drm.

I suppose this proves the virtual machine itself is correct about
framebuffer endianess? Except you are running it on a little-endian
host machine I presume...

> More interesting:  RHEL-7.3 (gnome 3.14) works fine too.  kernel 3.10,
> but drm drivers updated to roughly 4.6 level.  Runs bochs-drm.  mesa
> 11.2.2.  glamour not used.
> 
> Most recent:  Fedora 25 (gnome 3.22) looks mostly ok, but there are
> rendering glitches, for example in the gnome activities screen (the one
> you get when you press the windows key).  kernel 4.10, mesa 13.0.4.
> glamor not used, but I think gnome-shell uses opengl (via llvmpipe) for
> compositing.

I believe glitches are irrelevant for this topic, what we are
interested in is if the colors are right or byte-swapped (also mind
alpha/blue etc. swaps).

> btw: is there some way to start a wayland session from a shell (i.e.
> what startx does for xorg)?

Depends on which display server you want to start I believe. I don't
know about anything else than Weston, which is 'weston' for a
logind-enabled system.


Thanks,
pq

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From: Pekka Paalanen <ppaalanen-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Daniel Vetter
	<daniel.vetter-ral2JQCrhuEAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>,
	amd-gfx-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org,
	Ilia Mirkin <imirkin-FrUbXkNCsVf2fBVCVOL8/A@public.gmane.org>,
	open list <linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	dri-devel-PD4FTy7X32lNgt0PjOBp9y5qC8QIuHrW@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality.
Date: Tue, 18 Apr 2017 14:18:27 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170418141827.11634103@eldfell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1492509617.27392.19.camel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>


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On Tue, 18 Apr 2017 12:00:17 +0200
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

>   Hi,
> 
> > > ppc64 (big endian) virtual machine, running with qemu stdvga & bochs-drm
> > > driver.  Xorg with modesetting driver uses DRM_FORMAT_XRGB8888 (one and
> > > only format supported by bochs-drm), and we have to interpret that in
> > > bigendian byte order on the host side to get a correct display.  
> > 
> > I wonder if that is just an oversight from trying to match OpenGL
> > formats to DRM formats. It's full of gotcha's.
> > 
> > Did you try with GLAMOR? Do you see a difference with and without
> > GLAMOR? Hmm, but you have no GPU support, so GLAMOR would be through a
> > Mesa software renderer? I think I heard someone say something about
> > Mesa software on BE...  
> 
> So, did some more testing to see where we stand.
> 
> Historical note:  RHEL-6.9 (gnome 2) works fine.  Not of much interest
> here, it drives the qemu stdvga with offb, not bochs-drm.

I suppose this proves the virtual machine itself is correct about
framebuffer endianess? Except you are running it on a little-endian
host machine I presume...

> More interesting:  RHEL-7.3 (gnome 3.14) works fine too.  kernel 3.10,
> but drm drivers updated to roughly 4.6 level.  Runs bochs-drm.  mesa
> 11.2.2.  glamour not used.
> 
> Most recent:  Fedora 25 (gnome 3.22) looks mostly ok, but there are
> rendering glitches, for example in the gnome activities screen (the one
> you get when you press the windows key).  kernel 4.10, mesa 13.0.4.
> glamor not used, but I think gnome-shell uses opengl (via llvmpipe) for
> compositing.

I believe glitches are irrelevant for this topic, what we are
interested in is if the colors are right or byte-swapped (also mind
alpha/blue etc. swaps).

> btw: is there some way to start a wayland session from a shell (i.e.
> what startx does for xorg)?

Depends on which display server you want to start I believe. I don't
know about anything else than Weston, which is 'weston' for a
logind-enabled system.


Thanks,
pq

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-04-18 11:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-04-10 10:12 [RfC PATCH] drm: fourcc byteorder: brings header file comments in line with reality Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 10:12 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 12:02 ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-10 12:02   ` Daniel Vetter
2017-04-10 16:28   ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 16:28     ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 13:12 ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 13:12   ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 14:17   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 14:17     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-10 14:45     ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-10 14:45       ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-10 16:26       ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 16:26         ` Alex Deucher
2017-04-10 15:09     ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 15:09       ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-10 16:10       ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-10 16:10         ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-11  7:31         ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11  7:31           ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11 11:23           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-11 11:23             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-13  7:44             ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-13  7:44               ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-11 14:18           ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-11 14:18             ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-17  6:43             ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18  2:53               ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18  2:53                 ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18  5:04                 ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18  5:04                   ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-18  5:58                   ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18  5:58                     ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-18 10:14                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 10:14                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-19  1:01                       ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-19  1:01                         ` Michel Dänzer
2017-04-19  3:19                         ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19  3:19                           ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19  3:28                           ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19  3:28                             ` Ilia Mirkin
2017-04-19  7:09                         ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-19  7:09                           ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-19 12:34                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-19 12:34                             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 10:00       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 10:00         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 11:18         ` Pekka Paalanen [this message]
2017-04-18 11:18           ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 13:39           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 13:39             ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 14:01             ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 14:01               ` Pekka Paalanen
2017-04-18 20:50               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2017-04-18 20:50                 ` Gerd Hoffmann

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