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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:46:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170619124649.jy7m4ig3clln3pcw@node.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170616133600.GE11676@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 03:36:00PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello Krill,
> 
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:52:22PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > +static inline pmd_t pmdp_establish(pmd_t *pmdp, pmd_t pmd)
> > +{
> > +	pmd_t old;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * We cannot assume what is value of pmd here, so there's no easy way
> > +	 * to set if half by half. We have to fall back to cmpxchg64.
> > +	 */
> > +	{
> > +		old = *pmdp;
> > +	} while (cmpxchg64(&pmdp->pmd, old.pmd, pmd.pmd) != old.pmd);
> > +
> > +	return old;
> > +}
> 
> I see further margin for optimization here (although it's only for PAE
> x32..).
> 
> pmd is stable so we could do:
> 
> if (!(pmd & _PAGE_PRESENT)) {
>    cast to split_pmd and use xchg on pmd_low like
>    native_pmdp_get_and_clear and copy pmd_high non atomically
> } else {
>   the above cmpxchg64 loop
> }
> 
> Now thinking about the above I had a second thought if pmdp_establish
> is the right interface and if we shouldn't replace pmdp_establish with
> pmdp_mknotpresent instead to skip the pmd & _PAGE_PRESENT check that
> will always be true in practice, so pmdp_mknotpresent will call
> internally pmd_mknotpresent and it won't have to check for pmd &
> _PAGE_PRESENT and it would have no cons on x86-64.

With your proposed optimization, compiler is in good position to eliminate
cmpxchg loop for trivial cases as we have in pmdp_invalidate() case.
It can see that pmd is always has the present bit cleared.

I'll keep more flexible interface for now. Will see if anybody would see
more problems with it.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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From: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill@shutemov.name>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: "Kirill A. Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Vlastimil Babka <vbabka@suse.cz>,
	Vineet Gupta <vgupta@synopsys.com>,
	Russell King <linux@armlinux.org.uk>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Ralf Baechle <ralf@linux-mips.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	"Aneesh Kumar K . V" <aneesh.kumar@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Martin Schwidefsky <schwidefsky@de.ibm.com>,
	Heiko Carstens <heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com>,
	linux-arch@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	"H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper
Date: Mon, 19 Jun 2017 15:46:49 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170619124649.jy7m4ig3clln3pcw@node.shutemov.name> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170616133600.GE11676@redhat.com>

On Fri, Jun 16, 2017 at 03:36:00PM +0200, Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> Hello Krill,
> 
> On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 05:52:22PM +0300, Kirill A. Shutemov wrote:
> > +static inline pmd_t pmdp_establish(pmd_t *pmdp, pmd_t pmd)
> > +{
> > +	pmd_t old;
> > +
> > +	/*
> > +	 * We cannot assume what is value of pmd here, so there's no easy way
> > +	 * to set if half by half. We have to fall back to cmpxchg64.
> > +	 */
> > +	{
> > +		old = *pmdp;
> > +	} while (cmpxchg64(&pmdp->pmd, old.pmd, pmd.pmd) != old.pmd);
> > +
> > +	return old;
> > +}
> 
> I see further margin for optimization here (although it's only for PAE
> x32..).
> 
> pmd is stable so we could do:
> 
> if (!(pmd & _PAGE_PRESENT)) {
>    cast to split_pmd and use xchg on pmd_low like
>    native_pmdp_get_and_clear and copy pmd_high non atomically
> } else {
>   the above cmpxchg64 loop
> }
> 
> Now thinking about the above I had a second thought if pmdp_establish
> is the right interface and if we shouldn't replace pmdp_establish with
> pmdp_mknotpresent instead to skip the pmd & _PAGE_PRESENT check that
> will always be true in practice, so pmdp_mknotpresent will call
> internally pmd_mknotpresent and it won't have to check for pmd &
> _PAGE_PRESENT and it would have no cons on x86-64.

With your proposed optimization, compiler is in good position to eliminate
cmpxchg loop for trivial cases as we have in pmdp_invalidate() case.
It can see that pmd is always has the present bit cleared.

I'll keep more flexible interface for now. Will see if anybody would see
more problems with it.

-- 
 Kirill A. Shutemov

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  reply	other threads:[~2017-06-19 12:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 88+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-15 14:52 [HELP-NEEDED, PATCHv2 0/3] Do not loose dirty bit on THP pages Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 1/3] x86/mm: Provide pmdp_establish() helper Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:36   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-16 13:36     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-19 12:46     ` Kirill A. Shutemov [this message]
2017-06-19 12:46       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19  5:48   ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19  5:48     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19  5:48     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19  5:48     ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19 12:48     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 12:48       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 13:04       ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19 13:04         ` Martin Schwidefsky
2017-06-19 15:22   ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 15:22     ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 16:00     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 16:00       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 17:09       ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 17:09         ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-19 21:52         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 21:52           ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-20 15:54           ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-20 15:54             ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21  9:53             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21  9:53               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 10:40               ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 10:40                 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 11:27               ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 11:27                 ` Catalin Marinas
2017-06-21 12:04                 ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 12:04                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 15:49                 ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 15:49                   ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 17:15                   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 17:15                     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 17:20                     ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 17:20                       ` Vineet Gupta
2017-06-21 17:52                       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 17:52                         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-21 17:52                         ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 17:11   ` Nadav Amit
2017-06-19 17:11     ` Nadav Amit
2017-06-19 21:57     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 21:57       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 2/3] mm: Do not loose dirty and access bits in pmdp_invalidate() Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 22:44   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 22:44     ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 22:44     ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-16 13:40   ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-16 13:40     ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-19 13:29     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 13:29       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52 ` [PATCHv2 3/3] mm: Use updated pmdp_invalidate() inteface to track dirty/accessed bits Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 14:52   ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-15 21:54   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 21:54     ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 21:54     ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 23:02   ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 23:02     ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-15 23:02     ` kbuild test robot
2017-06-16  3:02   ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16  3:02     ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 13:19     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:19       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:52       ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 13:52         ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 14:27         ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-16 14:27           ` Andrea Arcangeli
2017-06-16 14:53           ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 14:53             ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-19 14:03             ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-19 14:03               ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-20  2:52               ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-20  2:52                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-20  9:57                 ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-20  9:57                   ` Minchan Kim
2017-06-16 11:31   ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-06-16 11:31     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-06-16 11:31     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-06-16 11:31     ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-06-16 13:21     ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 13:21       ` Kirill A. Shutemov
2017-06-16 15:57       ` Aneesh Kumar K.V
2017-06-16 15:57         ` Aneesh Kumar K.V

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