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From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [HMM 00/15] HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v23
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:28:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170623152849.GA3128@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA_GA1e7LbvY3rZ+FpJ6fLhZ1oUJ_FXVjQvjmS_YSrjZMAv9jw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:00:37PM +0800, Bob Liu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Jérôme Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Patchset is on top of git://git.cmpxchg.org/linux-mmotm.git so i
> > test same kernel as kbuild system, git branch:
> >
> > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~glisse/linux/log/?h=hmm-v23
> >
> > Change since v22 is use of static key for special ZONE_DEVICE case in
> > put_page() and build fix for architecture with no mmu.
> >
> > Everything else is the same. Below is the long description of what HMM
> > is about and why. At the end of this email i describe briefly each patch
> > and suggest reviewers for each of them.
> >
> >
> > Heterogeneous Memory Management (HMM) (description and justification)
> >
> > Today device driver expose dedicated memory allocation API through their
> > device file, often relying on a combination of IOCTL and mmap calls. The
> > device can only access and use memory allocated through this API. This
> > effectively split the program address space into object allocated for the
> > device and useable by the device and other regular memory (malloc, mmap
> > of a file, share memory, â) only accessible by CPU (or in a very limited
> > way by a device by pinning memory).
> >
> > Allowing different isolated component of a program to use a device thus
> > require duplication of the input data structure using device memory
> > allocator. This is reasonable for simple data structure (array, grid,
> > image, â) but this get extremely complex with advance data structure
> > (list, tree, graph, â) that rely on a web of memory pointers. This is
> > becoming a serious limitation on the kind of work load that can be
> > offloaded to device like GPU.
> >
> > New industry standard like C++, OpenCL or CUDA are pushing to remove this
> > barrier. This require a shared address space between GPU device and CPU so
> > that GPU can access any memory of a process (while still obeying memory
> > protection like read only). This kind of feature is also appearing in
> > various other operating systems.
> >
> > HMM is a set of helpers to facilitate several aspects of address space
> > sharing and device memory management. Unlike existing sharing mechanism
> 
> It looks like the address space sharing and device memory management
> are two different things. They don't depend on each other and HMM has
> helpers for both.
> 
> Is it possible to separate these two things into two patchsets?
> Which will make it's more easy to review and also follow the "Do one
> thing, and do it well" philosophy.
> 

They are already seperate. Patch 3-5 are for address space mirroring.
Patch 6-10 for device memory using struct page and ZONE_DEVICE. Finaly
patch 11-15 for adding new page migration helper capable of using
device DMA engine to perform memory copy operation.

Patch 1 is just common documentation and patch 2 is common helpers and
definitions.

Also they are separate at kernel configuration level. So for all intents
and purposes this is already 2 separate things, just in one posting
because first user will use both. You can use one without the other and
it will work properly.

Cheers,
Jérôme

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com>
To: Bob Liu <lliubbo@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux-Kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux-MM <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	"Kirill A . Shutemov" <kirill.shutemov@linux.intel.com>,
	John Hubbard <jhubbard@nvidia.com>
Subject: Re: [HMM 00/15] HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v23
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:28:50 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170623152849.GA3128@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA_GA1e7LbvY3rZ+FpJ6fLhZ1oUJ_FXVjQvjmS_YSrjZMAv9jw@mail.gmail.com>

On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:00:37PM +0800, Bob Liu wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:20 AM, Jerome Glisse <jglisse@redhat.com> wrote:
> > Patchset is on top of git://git.cmpxchg.org/linux-mmotm.git so i
> > test same kernel as kbuild system, git branch:
> >
> > https://cgit.freedesktop.org/~glisse/linux/log/?h=hmm-v23
> >
> > Change since v22 is use of static key for special ZONE_DEVICE case in
> > put_page() and build fix for architecture with no mmu.
> >
> > Everything else is the same. Below is the long description of what HMM
> > is about and why. At the end of this email i describe briefly each patch
> > and suggest reviewers for each of them.
> >
> >
> > Heterogeneous Memory Management (HMM) (description and justification)
> >
> > Today device driver expose dedicated memory allocation API through their
> > device file, often relying on a combination of IOCTL and mmap calls. The
> > device can only access and use memory allocated through this API. This
> > effectively split the program address space into object allocated for the
> > device and useable by the device and other regular memory (malloc, mmap
> > of a file, share memory, a) only accessible by CPU (or in a very limited
> > way by a device by pinning memory).
> >
> > Allowing different isolated component of a program to use a device thus
> > require duplication of the input data structure using device memory
> > allocator. This is reasonable for simple data structure (array, grid,
> > image, a) but this get extremely complex with advance data structure
> > (list, tree, graph, a) that rely on a web of memory pointers. This is
> > becoming a serious limitation on the kind of work load that can be
> > offloaded to device like GPU.
> >
> > New industry standard like C++, OpenCL or CUDA are pushing to remove this
> > barrier. This require a shared address space between GPU device and CPU so
> > that GPU can access any memory of a process (while still obeying memory
> > protection like read only). This kind of feature is also appearing in
> > various other operating systems.
> >
> > HMM is a set of helpers to facilitate several aspects of address space
> > sharing and device memory management. Unlike existing sharing mechanism
> 
> It looks like the address space sharing and device memory management
> are two different things. They don't depend on each other and HMM has
> helpers for both.
> 
> Is it possible to separate these two things into two patchsets?
> Which will make it's more easy to review and also follow the "Do one
> thing, and do it well" philosophy.
> 

They are already seperate. Patch 3-5 are for address space mirroring.
Patch 6-10 for device memory using struct page and ZONE_DEVICE. Finaly
patch 11-15 for adding new page migration helper capable of using
device DMA engine to perform memory copy operation.

Patch 1 is just common documentation and patch 2 is common helpers and
definitions.

Also they are separate at kernel configuration level. So for all intents
and purposes this is already 2 separate things, just in one posting
because first user will use both. You can use one without the other and
it will work properly.

Cheers,
Jerome

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Thread overview: 79+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-05-24 17:20 [HMM 00/15] HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v23 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 01/15] hmm: heterogeneous memory management documentation Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-06-24  6:15   ` John Hubbard
2017-06-24  6:15     ` John Hubbard
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 02/15] mm/hmm: heterogeneous memory management (HMM for short) v4 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-31  2:10   ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-31  2:10     ` Balbir Singh
2017-06-01 22:35     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-01 22:35       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 03/15] mm/hmm/mirror: mirror process address space on device with HMM helpers v3 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 04/15] mm/hmm/mirror: helper to snapshot CPU page table v3 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 05/15] mm/hmm/mirror: device page fault handler Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 06/15] mm/memory_hotplug: introduce add_pages Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-31  1:31   ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-31  1:31     ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 07/15] mm/ZONE_DEVICE: new type of ZONE_DEVICE for unaddressable memory v3 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-30 16:43   ` Ross Zwisler
2017-05-30 16:43     ` Ross Zwisler
2017-05-30 21:43     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-05-30 21:43       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-05-31  1:23   ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-31  1:23     ` Balbir Singh
2017-06-09  3:55   ` John Hubbard
2017-06-09  3:55     ` John Hubbard
2017-06-12 17:57     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-12 17:57       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-15  3:41   ` zhong jiang
2017-06-15  3:41     ` zhong jiang
2017-06-15 17:43     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-15 17:43       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 08/15] mm/ZONE_DEVICE: special case put_page() for device private pages v2 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 09/15] mm/hmm/devmem: device memory hotplug using ZONE_DEVICE v5 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-06-24  3:54   ` John Hubbard
2017-06-24  3:54     ` John Hubbard
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 10/15] mm/hmm/devmem: dummy HMM device for ZONE_DEVICE memory v3 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 11/15] mm/migrate: new migrate mode MIGRATE_SYNC_NO_COPY Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 12/15] mm/migrate: new memory migration helper for use with device memory v4 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-31  3:59   ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-31  3:59     ` Balbir Singh
2017-06-01 22:35     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-01 22:35       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-07  9:02       ` Balbir Singh
2017-06-07  9:02         ` Balbir Singh
2017-06-07 14:06         ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-07 14:06           ` Jerome Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 13/15] mm/migrate: migrate_vma() unmap page from vma while collecting pages Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 14/15] mm/migrate: support un-addressable ZONE_DEVICE page in migration v2 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-31  4:09   ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-31  4:09     ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-31  8:39     ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-31  8:39       ` Balbir Singh
2017-05-24 17:20 ` [HMM 15/15] mm/migrate: allow migrate_vma() to alloc new page on empty entry v2 Jérôme Glisse
2017-05-24 17:20   ` Jérôme Glisse
2017-06-16  7:22 ` [HMM 00/15] HMM (Heterogeneous Memory Management) v23 Bridgman, John
2017-06-16 14:47   ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-16 14:47     ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-16 17:55     ` Bridgman, John
2017-06-16 17:55       ` Bridgman, John
2017-06-16 18:04       ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-16 18:04         ` Jerome Glisse
2017-06-23 15:00 ` Bob Liu
2017-06-23 15:00   ` Bob Liu
2017-06-23 15:28   ` Jerome Glisse [this message]
2017-06-23 15:28     ` Jerome Glisse

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