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From: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ulf Hansson" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Linux PM list" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Kevin Hilman" <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	linux-clk <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:31:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704073137.GG14819@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d255a76-babe-312d-15b3-3474969f2410@arm.com>

On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:17:22AM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/07/17 19:14, Uwe Kleine-König wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 07:02:48AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >>
> >>
> >> The other problem is security related. If, at all, you have to do it the
> >> other way around, then:
> >>
> >> Make Linux a consumer of the other CPU's (trusted/trustzone/whatever
> >> secured) OS clock driver.
> 
> Yes, that's better and is getting common on newer platforms. They have
> separate M-class(or even low A-class e.g. A5/A7) processors to handle
> all the system management.
> 
> The new ARM SCMI specification[0][1] is designed to standardize the
> interface. It covers the clocks in clock protocol.
> 

Yes, however this doesn't exist on older SoCs which still have multiple CPU's

Peter.

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From: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ulf Hansson" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Linux PM list" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Kevin Hilman" <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	linux-clk <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:31:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704073137.GG14819@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d255a76-babe-312d-15b3-3474969f2410@arm.com>

On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:17:22AM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/07/17 19:14, Uwe Kleine-K�nig wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 07:02:48AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >>
> >>
> >> The other problem is security related. If, at all, you have to do it the
> >> other way around, then:
> >>
> >> Make Linux a consumer of the other CPU's (trusted/trustzone/whatever
> >> secured) OS clock driver.
> 
> Yes, that's better and is getting common on newer platforms. They have
> separate M-class(or even low A-class e.g. A5/A7) processors to handle
> all the system management.
> 
> The new ARM SCMI specification[0][1] is designed to standardize the
> interface. It covers the clocks in clock protocol.
> 

Yes, however this doesn't exist on older SoCs which still have multiple CPU's

Peter.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter De Schrijver <pdeschrijver@nvidia.com>
To: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
Cc: "Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@gmail.com>,
	"Rob Herring" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"Mark Rutland" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Ulf Hansson" <ulf.hansson@linaro.org>,
	"Dirk Behme" <dirk.behme@de.bosch.com>,
	"Linux PM list" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@rjwysocki.net>,
	"Michael Turquette" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"Stephen Boyd" <sboyd@codeaurora.org>,
	Linux-Renesas <linux-renesas-soc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Geert Uytterhoeven" <geert@linux-m68k.org>,
	"Kevin Hilman" <khilman@baylibre.com>,
	linux-clk <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
	<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:31:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704073137.GG14819@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d255a76-babe-312d-15b3-3474969f2410@arm.com>

On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:17:22AM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
>=20
>=20
> On 01/07/17 19:14, Uwe Kleine-K=F6nig wrote:
> > Hello,
> >=20
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 07:02:48AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
>=20
> [...]
>=20
> >>
> >>
> >> The other problem is security related. If, at all, you have to do it t=
he
> >> other way around, then:
> >>
> >> Make Linux a consumer of the other CPU's (trusted/trustzone/whatever
> >> secured) OS clock driver.
>=20
> Yes, that's better and is getting common on newer platforms. They have
> separate M-class(or even low A-class e.g. A5/A7) processors to handle
> all the system management.
>=20
> The new ARM SCMI specification[0][1] is designed to standardize the
> interface. It covers the clocks in clock protocol.
>=20

Yes, however this doesn't exist on older SoCs which still have multiple CPU=
's

Peter.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: pdeschrijver@nvidia.com (Peter De Schrijver)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks)
Date: Tue, 4 Jul 2017 10:31:37 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170704073137.GG14819@tbergstrom-lnx.Nvidia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8d255a76-babe-312d-15b3-3474969f2410@arm.com>

On Mon, Jul 03, 2017 at 10:17:22AM +0100, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 01/07/17 19:14, Uwe Kleine-K?nig wrote:
> > Hello,
> > 
> > On Sat, Jul 01, 2017 at 07:02:48AM +0200, Dirk Behme wrote:
> 
> [...]
> 
> >>
> >>
> >> The other problem is security related. If, at all, you have to do it the
> >> other way around, then:
> >>
> >> Make Linux a consumer of the other CPU's (trusted/trustzone/whatever
> >> secured) OS clock driver.
> 
> Yes, that's better and is getting common on newer platforms. They have
> separate M-class(or even low A-class e.g. A5/A7) processors to handle
> all the system management.
> 
> The new ARM SCMI specification[0][1] is designed to standardize the
> interface. It covers the clocks in clock protocol.
> 

Yes, however this doesn't exist on older SoCs which still have multiple CPU's

Peter.

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-04  7:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 54+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-06-29  9:27 Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks) Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29  9:27 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 10:28 ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 10:28   ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 11:18   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 11:18     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 13:18     ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 13:18       ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 13:22       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 13:22         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found] ` <CAMuHMdW9+CNTTOVO4SRRUxuz3ajLbY2j1uG8b_RpHX52NPwXrQ-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2017-06-29 11:56   ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks) Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 11:56     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 11:56     ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 12:07     ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 12:07       ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 12:45       ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 12:45         ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-06-29 12:55         ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-29 12:55           ` Dirk Behme
2017-06-30  8:02 ` Clocks used by another OS/CPU (was: Re: [RFC PATCH] clk: renesas: cpg-mssr: Add interface for critical core clocks) Peter De Schrijver
2017-06-30  8:02   ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-06-30 15:58 ` Rob Herring
2017-06-30 15:58   ` Rob Herring
2017-06-30 20:24   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-06-30 20:24     ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-06-30 20:24     ` Uwe Kleine-König
     [not found]     ` <20170630202453.eh6vaehkap3as4np-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-01  5:02       ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-01  5:02         ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-01  5:02         ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-01 18:14         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-01 18:14           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-01 18:14           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-02  5:48           ` Dirk Behme
2017-07-02  5:48             ` Dirk Behme
     [not found]             ` <6098d579-f206-5a23-bbfc-ac13e0448479-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-02  9:23               ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-02  9:23                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-02  9:23                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-02  9:23                 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2017-07-03  7:40                 ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-03  7:40                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
2017-07-03  7:40                   ` Geert Uytterhoeven
     [not found]           ` <20170701181408.yuocymwtj5dgt74d-bIcnvbaLZ9MEGnE8C9+IrQ@public.gmane.org>
2017-07-03  9:17             ` Sudeep Holla
2017-07-03  9:17               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-07-03  9:17               ` Sudeep Holla
2017-07-04  7:31               ` Peter De Schrijver [this message]
2017-07-04  7:31                 ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-07-04  7:31                 ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-07-04  7:31                 ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-07-04  8:49                 ` Sudeep Holla
2017-07-04  8:49                   ` Sudeep Holla
2017-07-05  7:25                   ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-07-05  7:25                     ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-07-05  7:25                     ` Peter De Schrijver
2017-07-05  7:25                     ` Peter De Schrijver

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