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* [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist
@ 2017-07-05 11:01 David Disseldorp
  2017-07-10  8:38 ` Lennart Poettering
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Disseldorp @ 2017-07-05 11:01 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: systemd-devel; +Cc: David Disseldorp, ceph-devel

Ceph relies on by-partuuid symlinks, in order to locate the journal
partition from a given OSD partition. For details, see
http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/19489.
---
 rules/60-persistent-storage.rules | 2 +-
 1 file changed, 1 insertion(+), 1 deletion(-)

diff --git a/rules/60-persistent-storage.rules b/rules/60-persistent-storage.rules
index 5ab03fc27..bc0721f32 100644
--- a/rules/60-persistent-storage.rules
+++ b/rules/60-persistent-storage.rules
@@ -6,7 +6,7 @@
 ACTION=="remove", GOTO="persistent_storage_end"
 
 SUBSYSTEM!="block", GOTO="persistent_storage_end"
-KERNEL!="loop*|mmcblk*[0-9]|msblk*[0-9]|mspblk*[0-9]|nvme*|sd*|sr*|vd*|xvd*|bcache*|cciss*|dasd*", GOTO="persistent_storage_end"
+KERNEL!="loop*|mmcblk*[0-9]|msblk*[0-9]|mspblk*[0-9]|nvme*|sd*|sr*|vd*|xvd*|bcache*|cciss*|dasd*|dm*", GOTO="persistent_storage_end"
 
 # ignore partitions that span the entire disk
 TEST=="whole_disk", GOTO="persistent_storage_end"
-- 
2.12.3

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* Re: [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist
  2017-07-05 11:01 [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist David Disseldorp
@ 2017-07-10  8:38 ` Lennart Poettering
  2017-07-10  9:37   ` [systemd-devel] " David Disseldorp
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Poettering @ 2017-07-10  8:38 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Disseldorp; +Cc: ceph-devel, systemd-devel

On Wed, 05.07.17 13:01, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:

> Ceph relies on by-partuuid symlinks, in order to locate the journal
> partition from a given OSD partition. For details, see
> http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/19489.

This appears way too broad, as it would apply to all LVM and all other
devices.

It appears to me Ceph should do the same as LVM does for this, and
ship its own set of rules, and be careful to only match against the
actual devices it creates.

I hope that makes sense,

Lennart

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* Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist
  2017-07-10  8:38 ` Lennart Poettering
@ 2017-07-10  9:37   ` David Disseldorp
  2017-07-10  9:53     ` Lennart Poettering
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Disseldorp @ 2017-07-10  9:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lennart Poettering; +Cc: systemd-devel, ceph-devel

Thanks for the feedback, Lennart...

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:38:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:

> On Wed, 05.07.17 13:01, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:
> 
> > Ceph relies on by-partuuid symlinks, in order to locate the journal
> > partition from a given OSD partition. For details, see
> > http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/19489.  
> 
> This appears way too broad, as it would apply to all LVM and all other
> devices.
>
> It appears to me Ceph should do the same as LVM does for this, and
> ship its own set of rules, and be careful to only match against the
> actual devices it creates.

We can certainly do this in a Ceph specific manner via the existing
95-ceph-osd.rules, but my impression was that the by-partuuid symlinks
are "owned" by 60-persistent-storage.rules .

If you don't think the existence of these symlinks for dm paths will be
of use to others then I'll go ahead and propose it as a Ceph only
change.

Cheers, David

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* Re: [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist
  2017-07-10  9:37   ` [systemd-devel] " David Disseldorp
@ 2017-07-10  9:53     ` Lennart Poettering
  2017-07-10 10:14       ` Peter Rajnoha
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Lennart Poettering @ 2017-07-10  9:53 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Disseldorp; +Cc: ceph-devel, systemd-devel

On Mon, 10.07.17 11:37, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, Lennart...
> 
> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:38:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> 
> > On Wed, 05.07.17 13:01, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:
> > 
> > > Ceph relies on by-partuuid symlinks, in order to locate the journal
> > > partition from a given OSD partition. For details, see
> > > http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/19489.  
> > 
> > This appears way too broad, as it would apply to all LVM and all other
> > devices.
> >
> > It appears to me Ceph should do the same as LVM does for this, and
> > ship its own set of rules, and be careful to only match against the
> > actual devices it creates.
> 
> We can certainly do this in a Ceph specific manner via the existing
> 95-ceph-osd.rules, but my impression was that the by-partuuid symlinks
> are "owned" by 60-persistent-storage.rules .
> 
> If you don't think the existence of these symlinks for dm paths will be
> of use to others then I'll go ahead and propose it as a Ceph only
> change.

Hmmm, so thinking about this again: "partuuid" is actually for GPT
partition UUIDs if I recall recorrectly, they wouldn't be generated
for DM devices anyway, since they are one layer removed from the GPT,
so are you even sure this will do what you are asking for?

But even if this actually works: DM links so far are created by the
LVM/libdevicemapper/ packages, not by udev, and I don't think this
should change. Hence, please talk to the LVM/libdevicemapper folks
about this and ask them for including it.

Lennart

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* Re: [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist
  2017-07-10  9:53     ` Lennart Poettering
@ 2017-07-10 10:14       ` Peter Rajnoha
  2017-07-10 10:47         ` Peter Rajnoha
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Peter Rajnoha @ 2017-07-10 10:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Lennart Poettering, David Disseldorp; +Cc: ceph-devel, systemd-devel

On 07/10/2017 11:53 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Mon, 10.07.17 11:37, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for the feedback, Lennart...
>>
>> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:38:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>
>>> On Wed, 05.07.17 13:01, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ceph relies on by-partuuid symlinks, in order to locate the journal
>>>> partition from a given OSD partition. For details, see
>>>> http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/19489.  
>>>
>>> This appears way too broad, as it would apply to all LVM and all other
>>> devices.
>>>
>>> It appears to me Ceph should do the same as LVM does for this, and
>>> ship its own set of rules, and be careful to only match against the
>>> actual devices it creates.
>>
>> We can certainly do this in a Ceph specific manner via the existing
>> 95-ceph-osd.rules, but my impression was that the by-partuuid symlinks
>> are "owned" by 60-persistent-storage.rules .
>>
>> If you don't think the existence of these symlinks for dm paths will be
>> of use to others then I'll go ahead and propose it as a Ceph only
>> change.
> 
> Hmmm, so thinking about this again: "partuuid" is actually for GPT
> partition UUIDs if I recall recorrectly, they wouldn't be generated
> for DM devices anyway, since they are one layer removed from the GPT,
> so are you even sure this will do what you are asking for?
> 
> But even if this actually works: DM links so far are created by the
> LVM/libdevicemapper/ packages, not by udev, and I don't think this
> should change. Hence, please talk to the LVM/libdevicemapper folks
> about this and ask them for including it.
> 

Yes, please, any rules for symlinks which should be created under
/dev/disk for DM devices (including all its subsystems like LVM,
mpath...) should go into 13-dm-disk.rules that is part of LVM/DM source
tree:

https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=blob;f=udev/13-dm-disk.rules.in

Now, when we create a partition over a DM device, there's a new mapping
created on top for each partition (either by calling kpartx manually or
by having it created by partitioning tool directly if it supports that).
So in this case, it's not the kernel directly who creates the
partitions, but they're simply another DM devices created on top of the
underlying DM device to represent these partitions. But I think that
doesn't matter - we should still create those symlinks for people to
still have a possibility to reference the device by its part uuid - I'll
fix 13-dm-disk.rules to include this.

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* Re: [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist
  2017-07-10 10:14       ` Peter Rajnoha
@ 2017-07-10 10:47         ` Peter Rajnoha
  2017-07-10 11:18           ` [systemd-devel] " David Disseldorp
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 7+ messages in thread
From: Peter Rajnoha @ 2017-07-10 10:47 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: David Disseldorp; +Cc: ceph-devel, systemd-devel

On 07/10/2017 12:14 PM, Peter Rajnoha wrote:
> On 07/10/2017 11:53 AM, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>> On Mon, 10.07.17 11:37, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks for the feedback, Lennart...
>>>
>>> On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 10:38:38 +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Wed, 05.07.17 13:01, David Disseldorp (ddiss@suse.de) wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Ceph relies on by-partuuid symlinks, in order to locate the journal
>>>>> partition from a given OSD partition. For details, see
>>>>> http://tracker.ceph.com/issues/19489.  
>>>>
>>>> This appears way too broad, as it would apply to all LVM and all other
>>>> devices.
>>>>
>>>> It appears to me Ceph should do the same as LVM does for this, and
>>>> ship its own set of rules, and be careful to only match against the
>>>> actual devices it creates.
>>>
>>> We can certainly do this in a Ceph specific manner via the existing
>>> 95-ceph-osd.rules, but my impression was that the by-partuuid symlinks
>>> are "owned" by 60-persistent-storage.rules .
>>>
>>> If you don't think the existence of these symlinks for dm paths will be
>>> of use to others then I'll go ahead and propose it as a Ceph only
>>> change.
>>
>> Hmmm, so thinking about this again: "partuuid" is actually for GPT
>> partition UUIDs if I recall recorrectly, they wouldn't be generated
>> for DM devices anyway, since they are one layer removed from the GPT,
>> so are you even sure this will do what you are asking for?
>>
>> But even if this actually works: DM links so far are created by the
>> LVM/libdevicemapper/ packages, not by udev, and I don't think this
>> should change. Hence, please talk to the LVM/libdevicemapper folks
>> about this and ask them for including it.
>>
> 
> Yes, please, any rules for symlinks which should be created under
> /dev/disk for DM devices (including all its subsystems like LVM,
> mpath...) should go into 13-dm-disk.rules that is part of LVM/DM source
> tree:
> 
> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=blob;f=udev/13-dm-disk.rules.in
> 
> Now, when we create a partition over a DM device, there's a new mapping
> created on top for each partition (either by calling kpartx manually or
> by having it created by partitioning tool directly if it supports that).
> So in this case, it's not the kernel directly who creates the
> partitions, but they're simply another DM devices created on top of the
> underlying DM device to represent these partitions. But I think that
> doesn't matter - we should still create those symlinks for people to
> still have a possibility to reference the device by its part uuid - I'll
> fix 13-dm-disk.rules to include this.
> 

Fixed here:

https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=commit;h=c48149cf80c6582c2369bc7f8a33d794021d9dae

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* Re: [systemd-devel] [PATCH] rules: block - add dm devices to whitelist
  2017-07-10 10:47         ` Peter Rajnoha
@ 2017-07-10 11:18           ` David Disseldorp
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 7+ messages in thread
From: David Disseldorp @ 2017-07-10 11:18 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Peter Rajnoha; +Cc: ceph-devel, systemd-devel

On Mon, 10 Jul 2017 12:47:24 +0200, Peter Rajnoha wrote:

> On 07/10/2017 12:14 PM, Peter Rajnoha wrote:
...
> > Yes, please, any rules for symlinks which should be created under
> > /dev/disk for DM devices (including all its subsystems like LVM,
> > mpath...) should go into 13-dm-disk.rules that is part of LVM/DM source
> > tree:
> > 
> > https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=blob;f=udev/13-dm-disk.rules.in
> > 
> > Now, when we create a partition over a DM device, there's a new mapping
> > created on top for each partition (either by calling kpartx manually or
> > by having it created by partitioning tool directly if it supports that).
> > So in this case, it's not the kernel directly who creates the
> > partitions, but they're simply another DM devices created on top of the
> > underlying DM device to represent these partitions. But I think that
> > doesn't matter - we should still create those symlinks for people to
> > still have a possibility to reference the device by its part uuid - I'll
> > fix 13-dm-disk.rules to include this.
> >   
> 
> Fixed here:
> 
> https://sourceware.org/git/?p=lvm2.git;a=commit;h=c48149cf80c6582c2369bc7f8a33d794021d9dae

Looks good and works for me - thanks Peter.

Cheers, David

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