[Buildroot] Using linux-zigbee ?

[Buildroot] Using linux-zigbee ?

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Hello Maxime,

Back in 2014, you added the linux-zigbee package in Buildroot. However,
this project is no longer maintained, and the replacement project is
wpan-tools, for which we already have a Buildroot package.

linux-zigbee has seen no updates since 2014
(https://sourceforge.net/p/linux-zigbee/linux-zigbee/ci/38f42dbfce9e13629263db3bd3b81f14c69bb733/log/?path=).
The fork at https://github.com/linux-wpan/lowpan-tools, which only
contains two additional commits, also from 2014, clearly mentions that
this is deprecated.

In addition, linux-zigbee now fails to build with gcc 7.x:
http://autobuild.buildroot.net/results/29c/29c72bc38042305310576be945c721b2fad95894/build-end.log.

Do you still use linux-zigbee ? Or could we remove it from Buildroot in
favor of wpan-tools ?

Are there other people using linux-zigbee and not wpan-tools ?

Thanks!

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Using linux-zigbee ?

[Baruch Siach]

Hi Thomas,

On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:57:10PM +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
> Back in 2014, you added the linux-zigbee package in Buildroot. However,
> this project is no longer maintained, and the replacement project is
> wpan-tools, for which we already have a Buildroot package.
> 
> linux-zigbee has seen no updates since 2014
> (https://sourceforge.net/p/linux-zigbee/linux-zigbee/ci/38f42dbfce9e13629263db3bd3b81f14c69bb733/log/?path=).
> The fork at https://github.com/linux-wpan/lowpan-tools, which only
> contains two additional commits, also from 2014, clearly mentions that
> this is deprecated.
> 
> In addition, linux-zigbee now fails to build with gcc 7.x:
> http://autobuild.buildroot.net/results/29c/29c72bc38042305310576be945c721b2fad95894/build-end.log.

The fix[1] for that (remove -Werror) is quite easy, you don't even need to 
patch the code.

> Do you still use linux-zigbee ? Or could we remove it from Buildroot in
> favor of wpan-tools ?

Buildroot carries packages that are deprecated/abandoned for much longer than 
that (e.g. wireless_tools). The command line interface difference between 
linux-zigbee and wpan-tools is a good enough reason to keep linux-zigbee, IMO.

> Are there other people using linux-zigbee and not wpan-tools ?

I use neither.

[1] http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/791782/

baruch

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[Buildroot] Using linux-zigbee ?

[Thomas Petazzoni]

Hello,

On Fri, 21 Jul 2017 06:53:11 +0300, Baruch Siach wrote:

> > In addition, linux-zigbee now fails to build with gcc 7.x:
> > http://autobuild.buildroot.net/results/29c/29c72bc38042305310576be945c721b2fad95894/build-end.log.  
> 
> The fix[1] for that (remove -Werror) is quite easy, you don't even need to 
> patch the code.

Ah, yes, I missed the fact that it was a warning-turned-into-an-error
class of problem. Thanks for spotting this!

> > Do you still use linux-zigbee ? Or could we remove it from Buildroot in
> > favor of wpan-tools ?  
> 
> Buildroot carries packages that are deprecated/abandoned for much longer than 
> that (e.g. wireless_tools). The command line interface difference between 
> linux-zigbee and wpan-tools is a good enough reason to keep linux-zigbee, IMO.

True, but at some point, we'll have to get rid of some old unmaintained
packages.

Perhaps we should at least update the help text of linux-zigbee to make
it clear it shouldn't be used for new projects ?

Thanks!

Thomas
-- 
Thomas Petazzoni, CTO, Free Electrons
Embedded Linux and Kernel engineering
http://free-electrons.com

[Buildroot] Using linux-zigbee ?

[Maxime Hadjinlian]

Hi all,

On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 5:53 AM, Baruch Siach <baruch@tkos.co.il> wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
>
> On Thu, Jul 20, 2017 at 10:57:10PM +0200, Thomas Petazzoni wrote:
>> Back in 2014, you added the linux-zigbee package in Buildroot. However,
>> this project is no longer maintained, and the replacement project is
>> wpan-tools, for which we already have a Buildroot package.
>>
>> linux-zigbee has seen no updates since 2014
>> (https://sourceforge.net/p/linux-zigbee/linux-zigbee/ci/38f42dbfce9e13629263db3bd3b81f14c69bb733/log/?path=).
>> The fork at https://github.com/linux-wpan/lowpan-tools, which only
>> contains two additional commits, also from 2014, clearly mentions that
>> this is deprecated.
>>
>> In addition, linux-zigbee now fails to build with gcc 7.x:
>> http://autobuild.buildroot.net/results/29c/29c72bc38042305310576be945c721b2fad95894/build-end.log.
>
> The fix[1] for that (remove -Werror) is quite easy, you don't even need to
> patch the code.
>
>> Do you still use linux-zigbee ? Or could we remove it from Buildroot in
>> favor of wpan-tools ?
>
> Buildroot carries packages that are deprecated/abandoned for much longer than
> that (e.g. wireless_tools). The command line interface difference between
> linux-zigbee and wpan-tools is a good enough reason to keep linux-zigbee, IMO.
Agreed, but shouldn't we set some kind of policy where we can remove
such kind of package which are not maintained upstream ? It's not the
role of buildroot to maintain such package, we are not Debian.
And if you really need a package in your build that is not maintained
anymore, it's not hard to keep it around in an overlay.
>
>> Are there other people using linux-zigbee and not wpan-tools ?
I am still using it for current versions, but they are using older
buildroot versions and won't be updated.
The plan is to move to wpan-tools anyway. So for my account, you can
remove it, I don't need it in the tree any longer.
>
> I use neither.
>
> [1] http://patchwork.ozlabs.org/patch/791782/
>
> baruch
>
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