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From: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli@gmail.com>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>, David Wu <david.wu@rock-chips.com>,
	mark.rutland@arm.com, huangtao@rock-chips.com,
	hwg@rock-chips.com, heiko@sntech.de, arnd@arndb.de,
	devicetree@vger.kernel.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	will.deacon@arm.com, linux@armlinux.org.uk,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-rockchip@lists.infradead.org,
	robh+dt@kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, olof@lixom.net,
	peppe.cavallaro@st.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, alexandre.torgue@st.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Add internal phy support
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:31:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170727173152.GA16362@Red> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65ae1747-4dff-b1d8-8aa3-684fc8c7809a@gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:54:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 07/27/2017 06:48 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:02:16PM +0800, David Wu wrote:
> >> To make internal phy work, need to configure the phy_clock,
> >> phy cru_reset and related registers.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: David Wu <david.wu@rock-chips.com>
> >> ---
> >> changes in v2:
> >>  - Use the standard "phy-mode" property for internal phy. (Florian)
> > 
> > I think we need to discuss this. This PHY appears to be on an MDIO
> > bus, it uses a standard PHY driver, and it appears to be using an RMII
> > interface. So it is just an ordinary PHY.
> 
> First, the fact that the internal PHY also appears through MDIO is
> orthogonal to the fact that it is internal or external. Plenty of
> designs have internal PHYs exposed through MDIO because that is
> convenient. What matters though is how the data/clock lines are wired
> internally, which is what "phy-mode" describes.
> 
> > 
> > Internal is supposed to be something which is not ordinary, does not
> > use one of the standard phy modes, needs something special to make it
> > work.
> > 
> > Florain, it appears to be your suggestion to use internal. What do you
> > say?
> 
> phy-mode = "internal" really means that it is not a standard MII variant
> to connect the data/clock lines between the Ethernet MAC and the PHY,
> and this can happen in some designs (although quite unlikely). So from
> there we could do several things depending on the requirements:
> 
> - if you can have your Ethernet MAC driver perform the necessary
> configuration *after* you have been able to bind the PHY device with its
> PHY driver, then the PHY driver should have PHY_IS_INTERNAL in its
> flags, and you can use phy_is_internal() from PHYLIB to tell you that
> and we could imagine using: phy-mode = "rmii" because that would not too
> much of a stretch
> 
> - if you need knowledge about this PHY connection type prior to binding
> the PHY device and its driver (that is, before of_phy_connect()) we
> could add a boolean property e.g: "phy-is-internal" that allows us to
> know that, or we can have a new phy-mode value, e.g: "internal-rmii"
> which describes that, either way would probably be fine, but the former
> scales better
> 

Hello

We have the same problem on Allwinner SoCs for dwmac-sun8i, we need to set a syscon for chossing between internal/external PHY.
Having this phy-is-internal would be very helpfull. (adding internal-xmii will add too many flags in our case)

Thanks
Regards
Corentin Labbe

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From: Corentin Labbe <clabbe.montjoie-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
To: Florian Fainelli <f.fainelli-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Andrew Lunn <andrew-g2DYL2Zd6BY@public.gmane.org>,
	David Wu <david.wu-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>,
	mark.rutland-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	huangtao-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org,
	hwg-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org,
	heiko-4mtYJXux2i+zQB+pC5nmwQ@public.gmane.org,
	arnd-r2nGTMty4D4@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	catalin.marinas-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	will.deacon-5wv7dgnIgG8@public.gmane.org,
	linux-I+IVW8TIWO2tmTQ+vhA3Yw@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-rockchip-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	robh+dt-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
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	olof-nZhT3qVonbNeoWH0uzbU5w@public.gmane.org,
	peppe.cavallaro-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org,
	davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org,
	linux-arm-kernel-IAPFreCvJWM7uuMidbF8XUB+6BGkLq7r@public.gmane.org,
	alexandre.torgue-qxv4g6HH51o@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 05/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Add internal phy support
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:31:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170727173152.GA16362@Red> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65ae1747-4dff-b1d8-8aa3-684fc8c7809a-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:54:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 07/27/2017 06:48 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:02:16PM +0800, David Wu wrote:
> >> To make internal phy work, need to configure the phy_clock,
> >> phy cru_reset and related registers.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: David Wu <david.wu-TNX95d0MmH7DzftRWevZcw@public.gmane.org>
> >> ---
> >> changes in v2:
> >>  - Use the standard "phy-mode" property for internal phy. (Florian)
> > 
> > I think we need to discuss this. This PHY appears to be on an MDIO
> > bus, it uses a standard PHY driver, and it appears to be using an RMII
> > interface. So it is just an ordinary PHY.
> 
> First, the fact that the internal PHY also appears through MDIO is
> orthogonal to the fact that it is internal or external. Plenty of
> designs have internal PHYs exposed through MDIO because that is
> convenient. What matters though is how the data/clock lines are wired
> internally, which is what "phy-mode" describes.
> 
> > 
> > Internal is supposed to be something which is not ordinary, does not
> > use one of the standard phy modes, needs something special to make it
> > work.
> > 
> > Florain, it appears to be your suggestion to use internal. What do you
> > say?
> 
> phy-mode = "internal" really means that it is not a standard MII variant
> to connect the data/clock lines between the Ethernet MAC and the PHY,
> and this can happen in some designs (although quite unlikely). So from
> there we could do several things depending on the requirements:
> 
> - if you can have your Ethernet MAC driver perform the necessary
> configuration *after* you have been able to bind the PHY device with its
> PHY driver, then the PHY driver should have PHY_IS_INTERNAL in its
> flags, and you can use phy_is_internal() from PHYLIB to tell you that
> and we could imagine using: phy-mode = "rmii" because that would not too
> much of a stretch
> 
> - if you need knowledge about this PHY connection type prior to binding
> the PHY device and its driver (that is, before of_phy_connect()) we
> could add a boolean property e.g: "phy-is-internal" that allows us to
> know that, or we can have a new phy-mode value, e.g: "internal-rmii"
> which describes that, either way would probably be fine, but the former
> scales better
> 

Hello

We have the same problem on Allwinner SoCs for dwmac-sun8i, we need to set a syscon for chossing between internal/external PHY.
Having this phy-is-internal would be very helpfull. (adding internal-xmii will add too many flags in our case)

Thanks
Regards
Corentin Labbe
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From: clabbe.montjoie@gmail.com (Corentin Labbe)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v2 05/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Add internal phy support
Date: Thu, 27 Jul 2017 19:31:52 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170727173152.GA16362@Red> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <65ae1747-4dff-b1d8-8aa3-684fc8c7809a@gmail.com>

On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:54:01AM -0700, Florian Fainelli wrote:
> On 07/27/2017 06:48 AM, Andrew Lunn wrote:
> > On Thu, Jul 27, 2017 at 09:02:16PM +0800, David Wu wrote:
> >> To make internal phy work, need to configure the phy_clock,
> >> phy cru_reset and related registers.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: David Wu <david.wu@rock-chips.com>
> >> ---
> >> changes in v2:
> >>  - Use the standard "phy-mode" property for internal phy. (Florian)
> > 
> > I think we need to discuss this. This PHY appears to be on an MDIO
> > bus, it uses a standard PHY driver, and it appears to be using an RMII
> > interface. So it is just an ordinary PHY.
> 
> First, the fact that the internal PHY also appears through MDIO is
> orthogonal to the fact that it is internal or external. Plenty of
> designs have internal PHYs exposed through MDIO because that is
> convenient. What matters though is how the data/clock lines are wired
> internally, which is what "phy-mode" describes.
> 
> > 
> > Internal is supposed to be something which is not ordinary, does not
> > use one of the standard phy modes, needs something special to make it
> > work.
> > 
> > Florain, it appears to be your suggestion to use internal. What do you
> > say?
> 
> phy-mode = "internal" really means that it is not a standard MII variant
> to connect the data/clock lines between the Ethernet MAC and the PHY,
> and this can happen in some designs (although quite unlikely). So from
> there we could do several things depending on the requirements:
> 
> - if you can have your Ethernet MAC driver perform the necessary
> configuration *after* you have been able to bind the PHY device with its
> PHY driver, then the PHY driver should have PHY_IS_INTERNAL in its
> flags, and you can use phy_is_internal() from PHYLIB to tell you that
> and we could imagine using: phy-mode = "rmii" because that would not too
> much of a stretch
> 
> - if you need knowledge about this PHY connection type prior to binding
> the PHY device and its driver (that is, before of_phy_connect()) we
> could add a boolean property e.g: "phy-is-internal" that allows us to
> know that, or we can have a new phy-mode value, e.g: "internal-rmii"
> which describes that, either way would probably be fine, but the former
> scales better
> 

Hello

We have the same problem on Allwinner SoCs for dwmac-sun8i, we need to set a syscon for chossing between internal/external PHY.
Having this phy-is-internal would be very helpfull. (adding internal-xmii will add too many flags in our case)

Thanks
Regards
Corentin Labbe

  reply	other threads:[~2017-07-27 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-07-27 12:55 [PATCH v2 00/11] Add the internal phy support David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55 ` David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55 ` David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55 ` [PATCH v2 01/11] net: phy: Add rockchip phy driver support David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:38   ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-27 13:38     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-27 13:38     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-28  7:48     ` David.Wu
2017-07-28  7:48       ` David.Wu
2017-07-28  7:48       ` David.Wu
2017-07-27 16:51   ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-27 16:51     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-28  8:19     ` David.Wu
2017-07-28  8:19       ` David.Wu
2017-07-27 12:55 ` [PATCH v2 02/11] multi_v7_defconfig: Make rockchip phy built-in David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55 ` [PATCH v2 03/11] arm64: defconfig: Enable CONFIG_ROCKCHIP_PHY David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55 ` [PATCH v2 04/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Remove unwanted code for rk3328_set_to_rmii() David Wu
2017-07-27 12:55   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02 ` [PATCH v2 05/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Add internal phy support David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02   ` [PATCH v2 06/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Add internal phy support for rk3228 David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02     ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02   ` [PATCH v2 07/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Add internal phy supprot for rk3328 David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02     ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02   ` [PATCH v2 08/11] ARM: dts: rk322x: Add support internal phy for gmac David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02     ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02   ` [PATCH v2 09/11] ARM: dts: rk3228-evb: Enable the " David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02     ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:02     ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:48   ` [PATCH v2 05/11] net: stmmac: dwmac-rk: Add internal phy support Andrew Lunn
2017-07-27 13:48     ` Andrew Lunn
2017-07-27 16:54     ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-27 16:54       ` Florian Fainelli
2017-07-27 17:31       ` Corentin Labbe [this message]
2017-07-27 17:31         ` Corentin Labbe
2017-07-27 17:31         ` Corentin Labbe
2017-07-28  7:39         ` Maxime Ripard
2017-07-28  7:39           ` Maxime Ripard
2017-07-28  7:39           ` Maxime Ripard
2017-07-28  6:56       ` David.Wu
2017-07-28  6:56         ` David.Wu
2017-08-02  3:44         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-02  3:46         ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-02  3:46           ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-08-02  3:46           ` Chen-Yu Tsai
2017-07-28  6:46     ` David.Wu
2017-07-28  6:46       ` David.Wu
2017-07-27 13:08 ` [PATCH v2 10/11] ARM64: dts: rockchip: Add gmac2phy node support for rk3328 David Wu
2017-07-27 13:08   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:08   ` David Wu
2017-07-27 13:10 ` [PATCH v2 11/11] ARM64: dts: rockchip: Enable gmac2phy for rk3328-evb David Wu
2017-07-27 13:10   ` David Wu

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