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From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	x86@kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, willy@infradead.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [v6 11/15] arm64/kasan: explicitly zero kasan shadow memory
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:30:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170808123042.GG13355@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8b2b9ed-abf0-0c16-faa2-98b66dcbed78@oracle.com>

On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 07:49:22AM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> Thank you for looking at this change. What you described was in my previous
> iterations of this project.
> 
> See for example here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/5/5/369
> 
> I was asked to remove that flag, and only zero memory in place when needed.
> Overall the current approach is better everywhere else in the kernel, but it
> adds a little extra code to kasan initialization.

Damn, I actually prefer the flag :)

But actually, if you look at our implementation of vmemmap_populate, then we
have our own version of vmemmap_populate_basepages that terminates at the
pmd level anyway if ARM64_SWAPPER_USES_SECTION_MAPS. If there's resistance
to do this in the core code, then I'd be inclined to replace our
vmemmap_populate implementation in the arm64 code with a single version that
can terminate at either the PMD or the PTE level, and do zeroing if
required. We're already special-casing it, so we don't really lose anything
imo.

Will

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [v6 11/15] arm64/kasan: explicitly zero kasan shadow memory
Date: Tue, 08 Aug 2017 12:30:43 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170808123042.GG13355@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8b2b9ed-abf0-0c16-faa2-98b66dcbed78@oracle.com>

On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 07:49:22AM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> Thank you for looking at this change. What you described was in my previous
> iterations of this project.
> 
> See for example here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/5/5/369
> 
> I was asked to remove that flag, and only zero memory in place when needed.
> Overall the current approach is better everywhere else in the kernel, but it
> adds a little extra code to kasan initialization.

Damn, I actually prefer the flag :)

But actually, if you look at our implementation of vmemmap_populate, then we
have our own version of vmemmap_populate_basepages that terminates at the
pmd level anyway if ARM64_SWAPPER_USES_SECTION_MAPS. If there's resistance
to do this in the core code, then I'd be inclined to replace our
vmemmap_populate implementation in the arm64 code with a single version that
can terminate at either the PMD or the PTE level, and do zeroing if
required. We're already special-casing it, so we don't really lose anything
imo.

Will

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>
To: Pasha Tatashin <pasha.tatashin@oracle.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, sparclinux@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org,
	linux-s390@vger.kernel.org, linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org,
	x86@kernel.org, kasan-dev@googlegroups.com,
	borntraeger@de.ibm.com, heiko.carstens@de.ibm.com,
	davem@davemloft.net, willy@infradead.org, mhocko@kernel.org,
	ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org, catalin.marinas@arm.com,
	sam@ravnborg.org
Subject: Re: [v6 11/15] arm64/kasan: explicitly zero kasan shadow memory
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:30:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170808123042.GG13355@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8b2b9ed-abf0-0c16-faa2-98b66dcbed78@oracle.com>

On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 07:49:22AM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> Thank you for looking at this change. What you described was in my previous
> iterations of this project.
> 
> See for example here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/5/5/369
> 
> I was asked to remove that flag, and only zero memory in place when needed.
> Overall the current approach is better everywhere else in the kernel, but it
> adds a little extra code to kasan initialization.

Damn, I actually prefer the flag :)

But actually, if you look at our implementation of vmemmap_populate, then we
have our own version of vmemmap_populate_basepages that terminates at the
pmd level anyway if ARM64_SWAPPER_USES_SECTION_MAPS. If there's resistance
to do this in the core code, then I'd be inclined to replace our
vmemmap_populate implementation in the arm64 code with a single version that
can terminate at either the PMD or the PTE level, and do zeroing if
required. We're already special-casing it, so we don't really lose anything
imo.

Will

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From: will.deacon@arm.com (Will Deacon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [v6 11/15] arm64/kasan: explicitly zero kasan shadow memory
Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2017 13:30:43 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170808123042.GG13355@arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f8b2b9ed-abf0-0c16-faa2-98b66dcbed78@oracle.com>

On Tue, Aug 08, 2017 at 07:49:22AM -0400, Pasha Tatashin wrote:
> Hi Will,
> 
> Thank you for looking at this change. What you described was in my previous
> iterations of this project.
> 
> See for example here: https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/5/5/369
> 
> I was asked to remove that flag, and only zero memory in place when needed.
> Overall the current approach is better everywhere else in the kernel, but it
> adds a little extra code to kasan initialization.

Damn, I actually prefer the flag :)

But actually, if you look at our implementation of vmemmap_populate, then we
have our own version of vmemmap_populate_basepages that terminates at the
pmd level anyway if ARM64_SWAPPER_USES_SECTION_MAPS. If there's resistance
to do this in the core code, then I'd be inclined to replace our
vmemmap_populate implementation in the arm64 code with a single version that
can terminate at either the PMD or the PTE level, and do zeroing if
required. We're already special-casing it, so we don't really lose anything
imo.

Will

  reply	other threads:[~2017-08-08 12:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 282+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-07 20:38 [v6 00/15] complete deferred page initialization Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 01/15] x86/mm: reserve only exiting low pages Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11  8:07   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  8:07     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  8:07     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  8:07     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:24     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:24       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:24       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:24       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 11:40       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:40         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:40         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:40         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:30         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:30           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:30           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:30           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:55   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:55     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:55     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:55     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-17 15:37     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:37       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:37       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:37       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 02/15] x86/mm: setting fields in deferred pages Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11  9:02   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:02     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:02     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:02     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:39     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:39       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:39       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:39       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 11:43       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:43         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:43         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:43         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:32         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:32           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:32           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:32           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 03/15] sparc64/mm: " Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 04/15] mm: discard memblock data later Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11  9:32   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:32     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:32     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:32     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:50     ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-11  9:50       ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-11  9:50       ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-11  9:50       ` Mel Gorman
2017-08-11 15:49     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:04       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:04         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:04         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:04         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:22         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:22           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:22           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:22           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 11:36           ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:35             ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:35               ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:35               ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:35               ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 19:00     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 19:00       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 19:00       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 19:00       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 11:34       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:34         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:34         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:34         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:39         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:39           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:39           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:39           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:42           ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:42             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:42             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:42             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 05/15] mm: don't accessed uninitialized struct pages Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11  9:37   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:37     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:37     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  9:37     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:55     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:55       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:55       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:55       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 11:47       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:47         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:47         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:47         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 13:51         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:51           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:51           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 13:51           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:28           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:28             ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:28             ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:28             ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-17 15:43             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-17 15:43               ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-17 15:43               ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-17 15:43               ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  9:33   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  9:33     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  9:33     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  9:33     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 06/15] sparc64: simplify vmemmap_populate Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 07/15] mm: defining memblock_virt_alloc_try_nid_raw Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11 12:39   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:39     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:39     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:39     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:58     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:58       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:58       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:58       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:06       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:06         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:06         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:06         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:24         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:24           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:24           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:24           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 08/15] mm: zero struct pages during initialization Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11 12:50   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:50     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:50     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:50     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:03     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:03       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:03       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:03       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 09/15] sparc64: optimized struct page zeroing Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11 12:53   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:53     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:53     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 12:53     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:04     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:04       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:04       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:04       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 10/15] x86/kasan: explicitly zero kasan shadow memory Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 11/15] arm64/kasan: " Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-08  9:07   ` Will Deacon
2017-08-08  9:07     ` Will Deacon
2017-08-08  9:07     ` Will Deacon
2017-08-08  9:07     ` Will Deacon
2017-08-08 11:49     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 11:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 11:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 11:49       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 12:30       ` Will Deacon [this message]
2017-08-08 12:30         ` Will Deacon
2017-08-08 12:30         ` Will Deacon
2017-08-08 12:30         ` Will Deacon
2017-08-08 12:49         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 12:49           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 12:49           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 12:49           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 13:15       ` David Laight
2017-08-08 13:15         ` David Laight
2017-08-08 13:15         ` David Laight
2017-08-08 13:15         ` David Laight
2017-08-08 13:15         ` David Laight
2017-08-08 13:30         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 13:30           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 13:30           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 13:30           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-08 13:30           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 12/15] mm: explicitly zero pagetable memory Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 13/15] mm: stop zeroing memory during allocation in vmemmap Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11 13:04   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:04     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:04     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:04     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:11     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:11       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:11       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:11       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 14/15] mm: optimize early system hash allocations Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11 13:05   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:05     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:05     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:05     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:13       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:13       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:13       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38 ` [v6 15/15] mm: debug for raw alloctor Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-07 20:38   ` Pavel Tatashin
2017-08-11 13:08   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:08     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:08     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 13:08     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 16:18     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:18       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:18       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 16:18       ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 11:50       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:50         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:50         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 11:50         ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-14 14:01         ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 14:01           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 14:01           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-14 14:01           ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-15  9:36           ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  9:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  9:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-15  9:36             ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  7:58 ` [v6 00/15] complete deferred page initialization Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  7:58   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  7:58   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11  7:58   ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:13   ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:13     ` Pasha Tatashin
2017-08-11 15:22     ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:22       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:22       ` Michal Hocko
2017-08-11 15:22       ` Michal Hocko

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