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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] fs, xfs: block map immutable files for dax, dma-to-storage, and swap
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:16:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170821091657.5bmigyfo7nzglak6@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170814124059.GC17820@quack2.suse.cz>

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 02:40:59PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Hum, this proposal (and the problems you are trying to deal with) seem very
> similar to Peter Zijlstra's mpin() proposal from 2014 [1], just moved to
> the DAX area (and so additionally complicated by the fact that filesystems
> now have to care). The patch set was not merged due to lack of interest I
> think but it looked sensible and the proposed API would make sense for more
> stuff than just DAX so maybe it would be better than MAP_DIRECT flag?
> 
> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/600502/

Thanks for thinking of that. The main sticking point was that I never
got it working for RDMA, I got hopelessly lost in that code.

Also I feel (and still do) that mpin() would be very useful for CMA,
mpin() would be a good moment to migrate/compact the pages and get out
of the way.
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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack@suse.cz>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	"linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org" <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david@fromorbit.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org, Jeff Moyer <jmoyer@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ross Zwisler <ross.zwisler@linux.intel.com>,
	Linux API <linux-api@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] fs, xfs: block map immutable files for dax, dma-to-storage, and swap
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:16:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170821091657.5bmigyfo7nzglak6@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170814124059.GC17820@quack2.suse.cz>

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 02:40:59PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Hum, this proposal (and the problems you are trying to deal with) seem very
> similar to Peter Zijlstra's mpin() proposal from 2014 [1], just moved to
> the DAX area (and so additionally complicated by the fact that filesystems
> now have to care). The patch set was not merged due to lack of interest I
> think but it looked sensible and the proposed API would make sense for more
> stuff than just DAX so maybe it would be better than MAP_DIRECT flag?
> 
> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/600502/

Thanks for thinking of that. The main sticking point was that I never
got it working for RDMA, I got hopelessly lost in that code.

Also I feel (and still do) that mpin() would be very useful for CMA,
mpin() would be a good moment to migrate/compact the pages and get out
of the way.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz-wEGCiKHe2LqWVfeAwA7xHQ@public.gmane.org>
To: Jan Kara <jack-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>
Cc: "linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>,
	Linux API <linux-api-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	"Darrick J. Wong"
	<darrick.wong-QHcLZuEGTsvQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	Dave Chinner <david-FqsqvQoI3Ljby3iVrkZq2A@public.gmane.org>,
	"linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org"
	<linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-xfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	Alexander Viro
	<viro-RmSDqhL/yNMiFSDQTTA3OLVCufUGDwFn@public.gmane.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-fsdevel
	<linux-fsdevel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org>,
	Christoph Hellwig <hch-jcswGhMUV9g@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 0/5] fs, xfs: block map immutable files for dax, dma-to-storage, and swap
Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2017 11:16:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170821091657.5bmigyfo7nzglak6@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20170814124059.GC17820-4I4JzKEfoa/jFM9bn6wA6Q@public.gmane.org>

On Mon, Aug 14, 2017 at 02:40:59PM +0200, Jan Kara wrote:
> Hum, this proposal (and the problems you are trying to deal with) seem very
> similar to Peter Zijlstra's mpin() proposal from 2014 [1], just moved to
> the DAX area (and so additionally complicated by the fact that filesystems
> now have to care). The patch set was not merged due to lack of interest I
> think but it looked sensible and the proposed API would make sense for more
> stuff than just DAX so maybe it would be better than MAP_DIRECT flag?
> 
> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/600502/

Thanks for thinking of that. The main sticking point was that I never
got it working for RDMA, I got hopelessly lost in that code.

Also I feel (and still do) that mpin() would be very useful for CMA,
mpin() would be a good moment to migrate/compact the pages and get out
of the way.

  parent reply	other threads:[~2017-08-21  9:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-08-04  2:28 [PATCH v2 0/5] fs, xfs: block map immutable files for dax, dma-to-storage, and swap Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28 ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 1/5] fs, xfs: introduce S_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:00   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:00     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:31     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:31       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-05  9:47   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-05  9:47     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-07  0:25     ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-07  0:25       ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-11 10:34       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-11 10:34         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-04  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 2/5] fs, xfs: introduce FALLOC_FL_SEAL_BLOCK_MAP Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 19:46   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 19:46     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 19:52     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 19:52       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 23:31   ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-04 23:31     ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-04 23:43     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 23:43       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-05  0:04       ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-05  0:04         ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-04  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 3/5] fs, xfs: introduce FALLOC_FL_UNSEAL_BLOCK_MAP Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:04   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:04     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:36     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:36       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 4/5] xfs: introduce XFS_DIFLAG2_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:33   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:33     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:45     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:45       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 23:46     ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-04 23:46       ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-04 23:57       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 23:57         ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04  2:28 ` [PATCH v2 5/5] xfs: toggle XFS_DIFLAG2_IOMAP_IMMUTABLE in response to fallocate Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:28   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:14   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:14     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:47     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:47       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:53       ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:53         ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-04 20:55         ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04 20:55           ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:38 ` [PATCH v2 0/5] fs, xfs: block map immutable files for dax, dma-to-storage, and swap Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:38   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-04  2:38   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-05  9:50   ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-05  9:50     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-05  9:50     ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-06 18:51     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-06 18:51       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-06 18:51       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-11 10:44       ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-11 10:44         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-11 10:44         ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-11 22:26         ` Dan Williams
2017-08-11 22:26           ` Dan Williams
2017-08-11 22:26           ` Dan Williams
2017-08-12  3:57           ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-12  3:57             ` Andy Lutomirski
2017-08-12  4:44             ` Dan Williams
2017-08-12  4:44               ` Dan Williams
2017-08-12  4:44               ` Dan Williams
2017-08-12  7:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-12  7:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-12  7:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-12  7:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-12  7:33             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-12  7:33             ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-12 19:19             ` Dan Williams
2017-08-12 19:19               ` Dan Williams
2017-08-12 19:19               ` Dan Williams
2017-08-13  9:24               ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-13  9:24                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2017-08-13 20:31                 ` Dan Williams
2017-08-13 20:31                   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-13 20:31                   ` Dan Williams
2017-08-14 12:40                   ` Jan Kara
2017-08-14 12:40                     ` Jan Kara
2017-08-14 12:40                     ` Jan Kara
2017-08-14 16:14                     ` Dan Williams
2017-08-14 16:14                       ` Dan Williams
2017-08-15  8:37                       ` Jan Kara
2017-08-15  8:37                         ` Jan Kara
2017-08-15  8:37                         ` Jan Kara
2017-08-15 23:50                         ` Dan Williams
2017-08-15 23:50                           ` Dan Williams
2017-08-16 13:57                           ` Jan Kara
2017-08-16 13:57                             ` Jan Kara
2017-08-16 13:57                             ` Jan Kara
2017-08-21  9:16                     ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2017-08-21  9:16                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-21  9:16                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2017-08-14 21:46                   ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-14 21:46                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-14 21:46                     ` Darrick J. Wong
2017-08-13 23:46                 ` Dave Chinner
2017-08-13 23:46                   ` Dave Chinner

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