Git in Outreachy round 15?

Git in Outreachy round 15?

[Jeff King]

Hi all,

I know we're just finishing up GSoC, but I want to get opinions on Git
participating in the next round of Outreachy, which will be accepting
interns over the next month or two.

Details and timelines are here:

  https://www.outreachy.org/

  https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/

For those not familiar with Outreachy, it's an internship program
focused on providing mentorship and stipends to groups that are
under-represented in Tech. The internship term is 3 months. Unlike other
programs like GSoC, individual projects (rather than the program) cover
the stipend, which is $6500 this round.

The big questions on whether we can make this happen are:

  1. Do we have mentor interest?

     I'm willing to mentor, but I'd like to hear whether other people
     are interested, as well. Either way I can take responsibility for
     the administrative bits.

     We could probably use some effort brushing up our project-ideas
     page. I've also considered whether it would make sense to do a
     "mixed bag" project where somebody works on multiple smaller
     projects, and we try to get them more involved in day-to-day
     project activities (after all, very few of us started working on
     Git with a dedicated 3-month project; people typically ease into it
     by fixing small problems, reviewing code, etc).

  2. Do we have the money (and want to spend it on this)?

     The Git project does have money to cover at least one intern.

     I'm looking into securing outside funding, so that we don't have to
     use project funds. If for whatever reason that doesn't happen, is
     this something we want to spend project money on?

     (My opinion is yes, but I'd like to hear what others in the
     community think).

-Peff

Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?

[Junio C Hamano]

Jeff King <peff@peff.net> writes:

>   2. Do we have the money (and want to spend it on this)?
>
>      The Git project does have money to cover at least one intern.
>
>      I'm looking into securing outside funding, so that we don't have to
>      use project funds. If for whatever reason that doesn't happen, is
>      this something we want to spend project money on?
>
>      (My opinion is yes, but I'd like to hear what others in the
>      community think).

$6,500 is a bargain if we could guide an intern and help set the
course to become a competent open source person.  It would be nice
if the intern stays in our community, but I do not even mind if the
investment follows the intern elsewhere and enrich other open source
projects.

It is a different matter if our mentor pool is rich enough to give
sufficient support and training to the intern, but if you are
volunteering to mentor, I wouldn't have any worries.  I do agree
with you that it would be a good idea to polish the project-ideas
page.

Thanks.

Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?

[Jeff King]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:19:56AM +0900, Junio C Hamano wrote:

> $6,500 is a bargain if we could guide an intern and help set the
> course to become a competent open source person.  It would be nice
> if the intern stays in our community, but I do not even mind if the
> investment follows the intern elsewhere and enrich other open source
> projects.

Agreed on all counts. I am still dotting i's and crossing t's, but I am
pretty sure I have outside funding lined up anyway, though.

> It is a different matter if our mentor pool is rich enough to give
> sufficient support and training to the intern, but if you are
> volunteering to mentor, I wouldn't have any worries.  I do agree
> with you that it would be a good idea to polish the project-ideas
> page.

We actually need to put together a "landing page". The guidelines are
at:

  https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/landing-page-requirements/

Timing-wise, the application period opens this Thursday. So I'll plan to
work on it over the next day or two, but I'd appreciate any help that
others can provide (even if I end up as the only available mentor).

-Peff

Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?

[Christian Couder]

Hi,

On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
>
> The big questions on whether we can make this happen are:
>
>   1. Do we have mentor interest?
>
>      I'm willing to mentor, but I'd like to hear whether other people
>      are interested, as well. Either way I can take responsibility for
>      the administrative bits.

I am willing to co-mentor, but I prefer not to take care of administrative bits.

>      We could probably use some effort brushing up our project-ideas
>      page. I've also considered whether it would make sense to do a
>      "mixed bag" project where somebody works on multiple smaller
>      projects, and we try to get them more involved in day-to-day
>      project activities (after all, very few of us started working on
>      Git with a dedicated 3-month project; people typically ease into it
>      by fixing small problems, reviewing code, etc).

I agree that we should try "mixed bag" projects consisting in multiple
smaller projects.
It would be very interesting to see if it provides better results.

>   2. Do we have the money (and want to spend it on this)?
>
>      The Git project does have money to cover at least one intern.
>
>      I'm looking into securing outside funding, so that we don't have to
>      use project funds. If for whatever reason that doesn't happen, is
>      this something we want to spend project money on?
>
>      (My opinion is yes, but I'd like to hear what others in the
>      community think).

My opinion is yes too.

Is there something like the GSoC Mentor Summit? I think this is an
interesting part of the GSoC and it could help motivate mentors if
there was something like that.

Thanks for taking care of this,
Christian.

Re: Git in Outreachy round 15?

[Jeff King]

On Tue, Sep 05, 2017 at 11:06:34PM +0200, Christian Couder wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 2, 2017 at 12:30 AM, Jeff King <peff@peff.net> wrote:
> >
> > The big questions on whether we can make this happen are:
> >
> >   1. Do we have mentor interest?
> >
> >      I'm willing to mentor, but I'd like to hear whether other people
> >      are interested, as well. Either way I can take responsibility for
> >      the administrative bits.
> 
> I am willing to co-mentor, but I prefer not to take care of administrative bits.

Thanks. I've listed you as a mentor on the landing page at:

  https://git.github.io/Outreachy-15/

The instructions for mentors can be found at:

  https://www.outreachy.org/mentor/

I've put a few projects on the landing page, but feel free to modify it
as you see fit.

> Is there something like the GSoC Mentor Summit? I think this is an
> interesting part of the GSoC and it could help motivate mentors if
> there was something like that.

No, I don't think that there is (though I'm pretty sure that there are
some sessions about Outreachy at the Mentor Summit).

-Peff