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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org>
To: Laurent Pinchart
	<laurent.pinchart-ryLnwIuWjnjg/C1BVhZhaw@public.gmane.org>
Cc: Sakari Ailus
	<sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-media-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	niklas.soderlund-1zkq55x86MTxsAP9Fp7wbw@public.gmane.org,
	maxime.ripard-wi1+55ScJUtKEb57/3fJTNBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org,
	robh-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org,
	hverkuil-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org,
	devicetree-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	pavel-+ZI9xUNit7I@public.gmane.org,
	sre-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 06/25] omap3isp: Use generic parser for parsing fwnode endpoints
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:46:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170921084621.gtvqyad4uf6jxjsp@valkosipuli.retiisi.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2111815.EclloaXXVN@avalon>

Hi Laurent,

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 07:12:14PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 17:47:22 EEST Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 03:46:18PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 15:43:26 EEST Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 02:40:29PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >>>> @@ -2256,7 +2210,9 @@ static int isp_probe(struct platform_device
> > >>>> *pdev)
> > >>>>  	if (ret)
> > >>>>  		return ret;
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> -	ret = isp_fwnodes_parse(&pdev->dev, &isp->notifier);
> > >>>> +	ret = v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints(
> > >>>> +		&pdev->dev, &isp->notifier, sizeof(struct isp_async_subdev),
> > >>>> +		isp_fwnode_parse);
> > >>>>  	if (ret < 0)
> > >>> 
> > >>> The documentation in patch 05/25 states that
> > >>> v4l2_async_notifier_release() should be called even if
> > >>> v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() fails. I don't think that's
> > >>> needed here, so you might want to update the documentation (and possibly
> > >>> the implementation of the function).
> > >> 
> > >> It is. If parsing fails, async sub-devices may have been already set up.
> > >> This happens e.g. when the parsing fails after the first one has been
> > >> successfully set up already.
> > > 
> > > But for v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() we could clean up
> > > internally when an error occurs. Otherwise you need to call
> > > v4l2_async_notifier_release() here.
> > 
> > The functions that set up async sub-devices can be called multiple times
> > (on separate references). This is quite alike setting up a control handler
> > really, so I adopted the same pattern.
> > 
> > If there is a failure, how many async sub-devices should be cleaned up, if
> > there have been async sub-devices already set up before calling this
> > function?
> 
> I'm not opposed to that pattern, I just thought that cleanup could be 
> automated for v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() failures, as 
> opposed to v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints_by_port() failures.
> 
> As this patch, written by the author of 
> v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() and part of the same patch 
> series, is missing a call to v4l2_async_notifier_release(), I expect driver 
> authors to make the same mistake and was thus wondering how to prevent that.
> 
> I believe that the issue here is that initialization of the notifier is done 
> implicitly by the first call to a parsing function. With explicit notification 
> it should be clear to driver authors that they need to call the cleanup 
> function:
> 
> ret = init()
> if (ret)
> 	return ret;
> 
> ret = parse()
> if (ret) {
> 	cleanup();
> 	return ret;
> }
> 
> ret = parse()
> if (ret) {
> 	cleanup();
> 	return ret;
> }
> 
> ret = parse()
> if (ret) {
> 	cleanup();
> 	return ret;
> }
> 
> But with an implicit initialization it's easy to miss cleanup when 
> v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() fails, as that function can be 
> considered as an initilization function that performs cleanup internally.
> 
> I'm not sure what the best pattern would be. At the very least you need to fix 
> this patch, but that wouldn't prevent future mistakes.

The patch was actually originally written before this was apparent. I agree
that it is not a common pattern to require cleanup function to be called on
a failure.

I'll fix the patch for v14.

Going forward, I see no reason why we couldn't automate much of this for
drivers: the bindings are generic after all. The notifier could be
registered through registration of the v4l2_device. It could be simply
released immediately if there would be no async sub-devices around.

It's not a trivial change, and I'd think well out of scope of this set:
we'll need to move link creation to the framework and detach async
sub-deviecs from parsing the endpoint properties as well.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus
e-mail: sakari.ailus-X3B1VOXEql0@public.gmane.org
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From: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@iki.fi>
To: Laurent Pinchart <laurent.pinchart@ideasonboard.com>
Cc: Sakari Ailus <sakari.ailus@linux.intel.com>,
	linux-media@vger.kernel.org, niklas.soderlund@ragnatech.se,
	maxime.ripard@free-electrons.com, robh@kernel.org,
	hverkuil@xs4all.nl, devicetree@vger.kernel.org, pavel@ucw.cz,
	sre@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v13 06/25] omap3isp: Use generic parser for parsing fwnode endpoints
Date: Thu, 21 Sep 2017 11:46:21 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20170921084621.gtvqyad4uf6jxjsp@valkosipuli.retiisi.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2111815.EclloaXXVN@avalon>

Hi Laurent,

On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 07:12:14PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> Hi Sakari,
> 
> On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 17:47:22 EEST Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 03:46:18PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2017 15:43:26 EEST Sakari Ailus wrote:
> > >> On Tue, Sep 19, 2017 at 02:40:29PM +0300, Laurent Pinchart wrote:
> > >>>> @@ -2256,7 +2210,9 @@ static int isp_probe(struct platform_device
> > >>>> *pdev)
> > >>>>  	if (ret)
> > >>>>  		return ret;
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> -	ret = isp_fwnodes_parse(&pdev->dev, &isp->notifier);
> > >>>> +	ret = v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints(
> > >>>> +		&pdev->dev, &isp->notifier, sizeof(struct isp_async_subdev),
> > >>>> +		isp_fwnode_parse);
> > >>>>  	if (ret < 0)
> > >>> 
> > >>> The documentation in patch 05/25 states that
> > >>> v4l2_async_notifier_release() should be called even if
> > >>> v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() fails. I don't think that's
> > >>> needed here, so you might want to update the documentation (and possibly
> > >>> the implementation of the function).
> > >> 
> > >> It is. If parsing fails, async sub-devices may have been already set up.
> > >> This happens e.g. when the parsing fails after the first one has been
> > >> successfully set up already.
> > > 
> > > But for v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() we could clean up
> > > internally when an error occurs. Otherwise you need to call
> > > v4l2_async_notifier_release() here.
> > 
> > The functions that set up async sub-devices can be called multiple times
> > (on separate references). This is quite alike setting up a control handler
> > really, so I adopted the same pattern.
> > 
> > If there is a failure, how many async sub-devices should be cleaned up, if
> > there have been async sub-devices already set up before calling this
> > function?
> 
> I'm not opposed to that pattern, I just thought that cleanup could be 
> automated for v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() failures, as 
> opposed to v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints_by_port() failures.
> 
> As this patch, written by the author of 
> v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() and part of the same patch 
> series, is missing a call to v4l2_async_notifier_release(), I expect driver 
> authors to make the same mistake and was thus wondering how to prevent that.
> 
> I believe that the issue here is that initialization of the notifier is done 
> implicitly by the first call to a parsing function. With explicit notification 
> it should be clear to driver authors that they need to call the cleanup 
> function:
> 
> ret = init()
> if (ret)
> 	return ret;
> 
> ret = parse()
> if (ret) {
> 	cleanup();
> 	return ret;
> }
> 
> ret = parse()
> if (ret) {
> 	cleanup();
> 	return ret;
> }
> 
> ret = parse()
> if (ret) {
> 	cleanup();
> 	return ret;
> }
> 
> But with an implicit initialization it's easy to miss cleanup when 
> v4l2_async_notifier_parse_fwnode_endpoints() fails, as that function can be 
> considered as an initilization function that performs cleanup internally.
> 
> I'm not sure what the best pattern would be. At the very least you need to fix 
> this patch, but that wouldn't prevent future mistakes.

The patch was actually originally written before this was apparent. I agree
that it is not a common pattern to require cleanup function to be called on
a failure.

I'll fix the patch for v14.

Going forward, I see no reason why we couldn't automate much of this for
drivers: the bindings are generic after all. The notifier could be
registered through registration of the v4l2_device. It could be simply
released immediately if there would be no async sub-devices around.

It's not a trivial change, and I'd think well out of scope of this set:
we'll need to move link creation to the framework and detach async
sub-deviecs from parsing the endpoint properties as well.

-- 
Kind regards,

Sakari Ailus
e-mail: sakari.ailus@iki.fi

  reply	other threads:[~2017-09-21  8:46 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 137+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-09-15 14:16 [PATCH v13 00/25] Unified fwnode endpoint parser, async sub-device notifier support, N9 flash DTS Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:16 ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 02/25] v4l: async: Remove re-probing support Sakari Ailus
     [not found]   ` <20170915141724.23124-3-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19  9:21     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19  9:21       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 04/25] v4l: async: Add V4L2 async documentation to the documentation build Sakari Ailus
     [not found] ` <20170915141724.23124-1-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 01/25] v4l: fwnode: Move KernelDoc documentation to the header Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]     ` <20170915141724.23124-2-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 10:48       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 10:48         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:04         ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19 11:04           ` Hans Verkuil
     [not found]           ` <29354478-ec46-278b-c457-4e6f3cc6848c-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 11:07             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:07               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:22             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 11:22               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 11:10         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 11:10           ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]           ` <20170919111036.5va2unwqh2vymojr-S+BSfZ9RZZmRSg0ZkenSGLdO1Tsj/99ntUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 11:14             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:14               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:25               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 11:25                 ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 03/25] v4l: async: Use more intuitive names for internal functions Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 05/25] v4l: fwnode: Support generic parsing of graph endpoints in a device Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19  8:03     ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19  8:20       ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]         ` <20170919082015.vt6olgirnvmpcrpa-z7MJbOB4PBP+e+fPlCVrcFDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19  8:40           ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19  8:40             ` Hans Verkuil
     [not found]             ` <af99e12c-6fb8-a633-eec2-c1eb9d82226a-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19  9:30               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19  9:30                 ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:37                 ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 10:00               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 10:00                 ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 10:10                 ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19 11:35     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:11       ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]         ` <20170919121131.6m4cf4ftzhq7vpnc-z7MJbOB4PBP+e+fPlCVrcFDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 12:34           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:34             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-26 20:56             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 07/25] rcar-vin: Use generic parser for parsing fwnode endpoints Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]     ` <20170915141724.23124-8-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 11:53       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:53         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:39         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 09/25] omap3isp: Print the name of the entity where no source pads could be found Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 11:56     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 11/25] v4l: async: Introduce helpers for calling async ops callbacks Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]     ` <20170915141724.23124-12-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-16  7:13       ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-16  7:13         ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-19 12:01       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:01         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:13         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 12:43           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 14:50             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 14:50               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 16:27               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-20 15:54                 ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-20 15:54                   ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 14/25] v4l: async: Allow binding notifiers to sub-devices Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]     ` <20170915141724.23124-15-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19  8:06       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19  8:06         ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19 13:52       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 13:52         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 15:17         ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]           ` <20170919151732.4yafxfcxrreizd7r-S+BSfZ9RZZmRSg0ZkenSGLdO1Tsj/99ntUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 17:52             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 17:52               ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-20  9:42               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 19/25] v4l: fwnode: Add convenience function for parsing common external refs Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 21/25] smiapp: Add support for flash and lens devices Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]     ` <20170915141724.23124-22-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 12:08       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:08         ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:20         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 12:38           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 23/25] ov5670: " Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17   ` [PATCH v13 24/25] ov13858: " Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 06/25] omap3isp: Use generic parser for parsing fwnode endpoints Sakari Ailus
2017-09-16  7:04   ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-16  7:18     ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-16  7:18       ` Pavel Machek
2017-09-19 11:40   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:41     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 12:43     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 12:46       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 14:47         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 14:47           ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 16:12           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-21  8:46             ` Sakari Ailus [this message]
2017-09-21  8:46               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-20 15:50         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-20 15:50           ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 08/25] omap3isp: Fix check for our own sub-devices Sakari Ailus
     [not found]   ` <20170915141724.23124-9-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 11:55     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 11:55       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 10/25] v4l: async: Move async subdev notifier operations to a separate structure Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 12/25] v4l: async: Register sub-devices before calling bound callback Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 12:01   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 13/25] v4l: async: Allow async notifier register call succeed with no subdevs Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 12:04   ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:52     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 14:58       ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]         ` <20170919145831.uztphjdtd3fdxzvr-S+BSfZ9RZZmRSg0ZkenSGLdO1Tsj/99ntUK59QYPAWc@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 15:03           ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 15:03             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 17:54             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-20 10:51               ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-20 10:51                 ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 15/25] dt: bindings: Add a binding for flash LED devices associated to a sensor Sakari Ailus
     [not found]   ` <20170915141724.23124-16-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 12:12     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:12       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:16       ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 12:16         ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 16/25] dt: bindings: Add lens-focus binding for image sensors Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 17/25] v4l: fwnode: Add a helper function for parsing generic references Sakari Ailus
     [not found]   ` <20170915141724.23124-18-sakari.ailus-VuQAYsv1563Yd54FQh9/CA@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19  8:14     ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19  8:14       ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19 12:19     ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 12:19       ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 13:04       ` Sakari Ailus
     [not found]         ` <20170919130453.ii5kz54qxlot4of2-z7MJbOB4PBP+e+fPlCVrcFDQ4js95KgL@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 14:01           ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-19 14:01             ` Laurent Pinchart
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 18/25] v4l: fwnode: Add a helper function to obtain device / integer references Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19  8:31   ` Hans Verkuil
2017-09-19  8:45     ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19  9:21       ` Hans Verkuil
     [not found]         ` <09f8ce37-c6e0-e448-c773-e1f3510d1024-qWit8jRvyhVmR6Xm/wNWPw@public.gmane.org>
2017-09-19 10:16           ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-19 10:16             ` Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 20/25] dt: bindings: smiapp: Document lens-focus and flash-leds properties Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 22/25] et8ek8: Add support for flash and lens devices Sakari Ailus
2017-09-15 14:17 ` [PATCH v13 25/25] arm: dts: omap3: N9/N950: Add flash references to the camera Sakari Ailus

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