From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> To: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>, Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/3] Makefile: Move stackprotector availability out of Kconfig Date: Wed, 04 Oct 2017 15:13:12 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20171004151312.GA20938@kroah.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNARhoqX0Z--gFEP1xbvcEeg4aDD9rkV0SeUCa3icc1MN8g@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:33:38PM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote: > Hi Kees, > > > 2017-10-03 4:20 GMT+09:00 Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>: > > Various portions of the kernel, especially per-architecture pieces, > > need to know if the compiler is building it with the stack protector. > > This was done in the arch/Kconfig with 'select', but this doesn't > > allow a way to do auto-detected compiler support. In preparation for > > creating an on-if-available default, move the logic for the definition of > > CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR into the Makefile. > > > > Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> > > Cc: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com> > > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> > > Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> > > Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> > > Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> > > Cc: linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org > > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> > > --- > > Makefile | 7 +++++-- > > arch/Kconfig | 8 -------- > > 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) > > > > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile > > index d1119941261c..e122a9cf0399 100644 > > --- a/Makefile > > +++ b/Makefile > > @@ -688,8 +688,11 @@ else > > stackp-flag := $(call cc-option, -fno-stack-protector) > > endif > > endif > > -# Find arch-specific stack protector compiler sanity-checking script. > > -ifdef CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR > > +ifdef stackp-name > > + # If the stack protector has been selected, inform the rest of the build. > > + KBUILD_CFLAGS += -DCONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR > > + KBUILD_AFLAGS += -DCONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR > > + # Find arch-specific stack protector compiler sanity-checking script. > > stackp-path := $(srctree)/scripts/gcc-$(SRCARCH)_$(BITS)-has-stack-protector.sh > > stackp-check := $(wildcard $(stackp-path)) > > endif > > > I have not tested this series, > but I think this commit is bad (with the follow-up patch applied). > > > I thought of this scenario: > > [1] Kernel is configured with CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR_AUTO > > [2] Kernel is built with a compiler without stack protector support. > > [3] CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR is not defined, > so __stack_chk_fail() is not compiled. > > [4] Out-of-tree modules are compiled with a compiler with > stack protector support. > __stack_chk_fail() is inserted to functions of the modules. We don't ever support the system of loading a module built with anything other than the _exact_ same compiler than the kernel was. So this will not happen (well, if someone tries it, they get to keep the pieces their kernel image is now in...) > [5] insmod fails because reference to __stack_chk_fail() > can not be resolved. Even nicer, we failed "cleanly" :) This isn't a real-world issue, sorry. thanks, greg k-h
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From: Greg KH <greg@kroah.com> To: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> Cc: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>, Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com>, Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com>, Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com>, Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk>, Linux Kbuild mailing list <linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org>, Yoshinori Sato <ysato@users.sourceforge.jp>, Rich Felker <dalias@libc.org>, "David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>, Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>, linux-sh@vger.kernel.org, kernel-hardening@lists.openwall.com, Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com> Subject: Re: [kernel-hardening] Re: [PATCH 2/3] Makefile: Move stackprotector availability out of Kconfig Date: Wed, 4 Oct 2017 17:13:12 +0200 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20171004151312.GA20938@kroah.com> (raw) In-Reply-To: <CAK7LNARhoqX0Z--gFEP1xbvcEeg4aDD9rkV0SeUCa3icc1MN8g@mail.gmail.com> On Wed, Oct 04, 2017 at 11:33:38PM +0900, Masahiro Yamada wrote: > Hi Kees, > > > 2017-10-03 4:20 GMT+09:00 Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>: > > Various portions of the kernel, especially per-architecture pieces, > > need to know if the compiler is building it with the stack protector. > > This was done in the arch/Kconfig with 'select', but this doesn't > > allow a way to do auto-detected compiler support. In preparation for > > creating an on-if-available default, move the logic for the definition of > > CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR into the Makefile. > > > > Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com> > > Cc: Michal Marek <mmarek@suse.com> > > Cc: Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org> > > Cc: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org> > > Cc: Laura Abbott <labbott@redhat.com> > > Cc: Nicholas Piggin <npiggin@gmail.com> > > Cc: Al Viro <viro@zeniv.linux.org.uk> > > Cc: linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org > > Signed-off-by: Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org> > > --- > > Makefile | 7 +++++-- > > arch/Kconfig | 8 -------- > > 2 files changed, 5 insertions(+), 10 deletions(-) > > > > diff --git a/Makefile b/Makefile > > index d1119941261c..e122a9cf0399 100644 > > --- a/Makefile > > +++ b/Makefile > > @@ -688,8 +688,11 @@ else > > stackp-flag := $(call cc-option, -fno-stack-protector) > > endif > > endif > > -# Find arch-specific stack protector compiler sanity-checking script. > > -ifdef CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR > > +ifdef stackp-name > > + # If the stack protector has been selected, inform the rest of the build. > > + KBUILD_CFLAGS += -DCONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR > > + KBUILD_AFLAGS += -DCONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR > > + # Find arch-specific stack protector compiler sanity-checking script. > > stackp-path := $(srctree)/scripts/gcc-$(SRCARCH)_$(BITS)-has-stack-protector.sh > > stackp-check := $(wildcard $(stackp-path)) > > endif > > > I have not tested this series, > but I think this commit is bad (with the follow-up patch applied). > > > I thought of this scenario: > > [1] Kernel is configured with CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR_AUTO > > [2] Kernel is built with a compiler without stack protector support. > > [3] CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR is not defined, > so __stack_chk_fail() is not compiled. > > [4] Out-of-tree modules are compiled with a compiler with > stack protector support. > __stack_chk_fail() is inserted to functions of the modules. We don't ever support the system of loading a module built with anything other than the _exact_ same compiler than the kernel was. So this will not happen (well, if someone tries it, they get to keep the pieces their kernel image is now in...) > [5] insmod fails because reference to __stack_chk_fail() > can not be resolved. Even nicer, we failed "cleanly" :) This isn't a real-world issue, sorry. thanks, greg k-h
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2017-10-04 15:13 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2017-10-02 19:20 [PATCH 0/3] Makefile: Introduce CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR_AUTO Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` [PATCH 1/3] sh/boot: Add static stack-protector to pre-kernel Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` [PATCH 2/3] Makefile: Move stackprotector availability out of Kconfig Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-04 14:33 ` Masahiro Yamada 2017-10-04 14:33 ` [kernel-hardening] " Masahiro Yamada 2017-10-04 14:33 ` Masahiro Yamada 2017-10-04 15:13 ` Greg KH [this message] 2017-10-04 15:13 ` [kernel-hardening] " Greg KH 2017-10-04 16:22 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-04 16:22 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-04 16:22 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-04 17:15 ` Greg KH 2017-10-04 17:15 ` Greg KH 2017-10-04 17:15 ` Greg KH 2017-10-02 19:20 ` [PATCH 3/3] Makefile: Introduce CONFIG_CC_STACKPROTECTOR_AUTO Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` [kernel-hardening] " Kees Cook 2017-10-02 19:20 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-03 10:04 ` [kernel-hardening] [PATCH 0/3] " Mark Rutland 2017-10-03 10:04 ` Mark Rutland 2017-10-03 15:51 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-03 15:51 ` Kees Cook 2017-10-03 15:51 ` Kees Cook
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