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From: Krzysztof Mazur <krzysiek@podlesie.net>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Valentin <eduval@amazon.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	aliguori@amazon.com, daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at,
	hughd@google.com, keescook@google.com,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:58:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180124185800.GA11515@shrek.podlesie.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1516120619-1159-1-git-send-email-joro@8bytes.org>

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 05:36:43PM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> From: Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> here is my current WIP code to enable PTI on x86-32. It is
> still in a pretty early state, but it successfully boots my
> KVM guest with PAE and with legacy paging. The existing PTI
> code for x86-64 already prepares a lot of the stuff needed
> for 32 bit too, thanks for that to all the people involved
> in its development :)

Hi,

I've waited for this patches for a long time, until I've tried to
exploit meltdown on some old 32-bit CPUs and failed. Pentium M
seems to speculatively execute the second load with eax
always equal to 0:

	movzx (%[addr]), %%eax
	shl $12, %%eax
	movzx (%[target], %%eax), %%eax

And on Pentium 4-based Xeon the second load seems to be never executed,
even without shift (shifts are slow on some or all Pentium 4's). Maybe
not all P6 and Netbursts CPUs are affected, but I'm not sure. Maybe the
kernel, at least on 32-bit, should try to exploit meltdown to test if
the CPU is really affected.


The series boots on Pentium M (and crashes when I've used perf,
but it is an already known issue). However, I don't like
the performance regression with CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=n
(about 7.2%), trivial "benchmark":

--- cut here ---
#include <unistd.h>
#include <fcntl.h>

int main(void)
{
	unsigned long i;
	int fd;

	fd = open("/dev/null", O_WRONLY);
	for (i = 0; i < 10000000; i++) {
		char x = 0;
		write(fd, &x, 1);
	}
	return 0;
}
--- cut here ---

Time (on Pentium M 1.73 GHz):

baseline (4.15.0-rc8-gdda3e152):		2.415 s (+/- 0.64%)
patched, without CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=n	2.588 s (+/- 0.01%)
patched, nopti					2.597 s (+/- 0.31%)
patched, pti					18.272 s
(some older kernel, pre 4.15)			2.378 s

Thanks,
Krzysiek
--
perf results:

baseline:

 Performance counter stats for './bench' (5 runs):

       2401.539139 task-clock:HG             #    0.995 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.23% )
                23 context-switches:HG       #    0.009 K/sec                    ( +-  4.02% )
                 0 cpu-migrations:HG         #    0.000 K/sec                  
                30 page-faults:HG            #    0.013 K/sec                    ( +-  1.24% )
        4142375834 cycles:HG                 #    1.725 GHz                      ( +-  0.23% ) [39.99%]
         385110908 stalled-cycles-frontend:HG #    9.30% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.06% ) [40.01%]
   <not supported> stalled-cycles-backend:HG
        4142489274 instructions:HG           #    1.00  insns per cycle        
                                             #    0.09  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.00% ) [40.00%]
         802270380 branches:HG               #  334.065 M/sec                    ( +-  0.00% ) [40.00%]
             34278 branch-misses:HG          #    0.00% of all branches          ( +-  1.94% ) [40.00%]

       2.414741497 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.64% )

patched, without CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=n

 Performance counter stats for './bench' (5 runs):

       2587.026405 task-clock:HG             #    1.000 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.01% )
                28 context-switches:HG       #    0.011 K/sec                    ( +-  5.95% )
                 0 cpu-migrations:HG         #    0.000 K/sec                  
                31 page-faults:HG            #    0.012 K/sec                    ( +-  1.21% )
        4462401079 cycles:HG                 #    1.725 GHz                      ( +-  0.01% ) [39.98%]
         388646121 stalled-cycles-frontend:HG #    8.71% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.05% ) [40.01%]
   <not supported> stalled-cycles-backend:HG
        4283638646 instructions:HG           #    0.96  insns per cycle        
                                             #    0.09  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.00% ) [40.03%]
         822484311 branches:HG               #  317.927 M/sec                    ( +-  0.00% ) [40.01%]
             39372 branch-misses:HG          #    0.00% of all branches          ( +-  2.33% ) [39.98%]

       2.587818354 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.01% )

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Krzysztof Mazur <krzysiek@podlesie.net>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>, "H . Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Andy Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>,
	Juergen Gross <jgross@suse.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Jiri Kosina <jkosina@suse.cz>,
	Boris Ostrovsky <boris.ostrovsky@oracle.com>,
	Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	David Laight <David.Laight@aculab.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Eduardo Valentin <eduval@amazon.com>,
	Greg KH <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	aliguori@amazon.com, daniel.gruss@iaik.tugraz.at,
	hughd@google.com, keescook@google.com,
	Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2018 19:58:00 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180124185800.GA11515@shrek.podlesie.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1516120619-1159-1-git-send-email-joro@8bytes.org>

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 05:36:43PM +0100, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> From: Joerg Roedel <jroedel@suse.de>
> 
> Hi,
> 
> here is my current WIP code to enable PTI on x86-32. It is
> still in a pretty early state, but it successfully boots my
> KVM guest with PAE and with legacy paging. The existing PTI
> code for x86-64 already prepares a lot of the stuff needed
> for 32 bit too, thanks for that to all the people involved
> in its development :)

Hi,

I've waited for this patches for a long time, until I've tried to
exploit meltdown on some old 32-bit CPUs and failed. Pentium M
seems to speculatively execute the second load with eax
always equal to 0:

	movzx (%[addr]), %%eax
	shl $12, %%eax
	movzx (%[target], %%eax), %%eax

And on Pentium 4-based Xeon the second load seems to be never executed,
even without shift (shifts are slow on some or all Pentium 4's). Maybe
not all P6 and Netbursts CPUs are affected, but I'm not sure. Maybe the
kernel, at least on 32-bit, should try to exploit meltdown to test if
the CPU is really affected.


The series boots on Pentium M (and crashes when I've used perf,
but it is an already known issue). However, I don't like
the performance regression with CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=n
(about 7.2%), trivial "benchmark":

--- cut here ---
#include <unistd.h>
#include <fcntl.h>

int main(void)
{
	unsigned long i;
	int fd;

	fd = open("/dev/null", O_WRONLY);
	for (i = 0; i < 10000000; i++) {
		char x = 0;
		write(fd, &x, 1);
	}
	return 0;
}
--- cut here ---

Time (on Pentium M 1.73 GHz):

baseline (4.15.0-rc8-gdda3e152):		2.415 s (+/- 0.64%)
patched, without CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=n	2.588 s (+/- 0.01%)
patched, nopti					2.597 s (+/- 0.31%)
patched, pti					18.272 s
(some older kernel, pre 4.15)			2.378 s

Thanks,
Krzysiek
--
perf results:

baseline:

 Performance counter stats for './bench' (5 runs):

       2401.539139 task-clock:HG             #    0.995 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.23% )
                23 context-switches:HG       #    0.009 K/sec                    ( +-  4.02% )
                 0 cpu-migrations:HG         #    0.000 K/sec                  
                30 page-faults:HG            #    0.013 K/sec                    ( +-  1.24% )
        4142375834 cycles:HG                 #    1.725 GHz                      ( +-  0.23% ) [39.99%]
         385110908 stalled-cycles-frontend:HG #    9.30% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.06% ) [40.01%]
   <not supported> stalled-cycles-backend:HG
        4142489274 instructions:HG           #    1.00  insns per cycle        
                                             #    0.09  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.00% ) [40.00%]
         802270380 branches:HG               #  334.065 M/sec                    ( +-  0.00% ) [40.00%]
             34278 branch-misses:HG          #    0.00% of all branches          ( +-  1.94% ) [40.00%]

       2.414741497 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.64% )

patched, without CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION=n

 Performance counter stats for './bench' (5 runs):

       2587.026405 task-clock:HG             #    1.000 CPUs utilized            ( +-  0.01% )
                28 context-switches:HG       #    0.011 K/sec                    ( +-  5.95% )
                 0 cpu-migrations:HG         #    0.000 K/sec                  
                31 page-faults:HG            #    0.012 K/sec                    ( +-  1.21% )
        4462401079 cycles:HG                 #    1.725 GHz                      ( +-  0.01% ) [39.98%]
         388646121 stalled-cycles-frontend:HG #    8.71% frontend cycles idle     ( +-  0.05% ) [40.01%]
   <not supported> stalled-cycles-backend:HG
        4283638646 instructions:HG           #    0.96  insns per cycle        
                                             #    0.09  stalled cycles per insn  ( +-  0.00% ) [40.03%]
         822484311 branches:HG               #  317.927 M/sec                    ( +-  0.00% ) [40.01%]
             39372 branch-misses:HG          #    0.00% of all branches          ( +-  2.33% ) [39.98%]

       2.587818354 seconds time elapsed                                          ( +-  0.01% )

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Thread overview: 183+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-16 16:36 [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32 Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 01/16] x86/entry/32: Rename TSS_sysenter_sp0 to TSS_sysenter_stack Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 18:35   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 18:35     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 02/16] x86/entry/32: Enter the kernel via trampoline stack Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 20:30   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 20:30     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 22:37     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 22:37       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 22:45   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 22:45     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17  9:18     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17  9:18       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 18:10       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17 18:10         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-19  9:55         ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-19  9:55           ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-19 16:30           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-19 16:30             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-22 10:11             ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-22 10:11               ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-22 17:46               ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-22 17:46                 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17  2:47   ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-01-17  2:47     ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-01-17  9:02     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17  9:02       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 14:04       ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-17 14:04         ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-17 15:22         ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-01-17 15:22           ` Boris Ostrovsky
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 03/16] x86/entry/32: Leave the kernel via the " Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 22:48   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 22:48     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17  9:24     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17  9:24       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 13:57       ` Brian Gerst
2018-01-17 13:57         ` Brian Gerst
2018-01-17 14:00         ` Brian Gerst
2018-01-17 14:00           ` Brian Gerst
2018-01-17 14:14           ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 14:14             ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 14:45             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-17 14:45               ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-01-17 14:10         ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 14:10           ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 18:12           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17 18:12             ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-19  9:57             ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-19  9:57               ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 04/16] x86/pti: Define X86_CR3_PTI_PCID_USER_BIT on x86_32 Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 22:46   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 22:46     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17  9:26     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17  9:26       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 05/16] x86/pgtable: Move pgdp kernel/user conversion functions to pgtable.h Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 06/16] x86/mm/ldt: Reserve high address-space range for the LDT Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:52   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-16 16:52     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-16 17:13     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 17:13       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 17:31       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-16 17:31         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-16 17:34         ` Waiman Long
2018-01-16 17:34           ` Waiman Long
2018-01-16 22:51     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 22:51       ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17  7:59       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-17  7:59         ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 07/16] x86/mm: Move two more functions from pgtable_64.h to pgtable.h Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 18:03   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 18:03     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 19:11     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 19:11       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 19:34       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 19:34         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 08/16] x86/pgtable/32: Allocate 8k page-tables when PTI is enabled Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 23:43   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17 23:43     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-19  9:57     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-19  9:57       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 09/16] x86/mm/pti: Clone CPU_ENTRY_AREA on PMD level on x86_32 Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 21:03   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 21:03     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 10/16] x86/mm/pti: Populate valid user pud entries Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 18:06   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 18:06     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 19:41     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 19:41       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 21:06   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 21:06     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 11/16] x86/mm/pgtable: Move pti_set_user_pgd() to pgtable.h Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 12/16] x86/mm/pae: Populate the user page-table with user pgd's Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 18:11   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 18:11     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 19:44     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 19:44       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 21:10   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 21:10     ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 21:15     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 21:15       ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 13/16] x86/mm/pti: Add an overflow check to pti_clone_pmds() Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 14/16] x86/mm/legacy: Populate the user page-table with user pgd's Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17 23:41   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17 23:41     ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 15/16] x86/entry/32: Switch between kernel and user cr3 on entry/exit Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36 ` [PATCH 16/16] x86/pti: Allow CONFIG_PAGE_TABLE_ISOLATION for x86_32 Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 16:36   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 18:14 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] PTI support for x86-32 Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 18:14   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 19:46   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 19:46     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 18:59 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-16 18:59   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-16 19:02   ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 19:02     ` Dave Hansen
2018-01-16 19:21   ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16 19:21     ` Andrew Cooper
2018-01-16 19:55   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 19:55     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 21:20 ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-16 21:20   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-01-17  9:55   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17  9:55     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-16 22:26 ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-16 22:26   ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-01-17  9:33   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-17  9:33     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-19 10:55 ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-19 11:07   ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-19 11:07     ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-19 12:58     ` Pavel Machek
2018-01-21 20:13 ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-21 20:13   ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-21 20:44   ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-21 20:44     ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-21 23:46     ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-21 23:46       ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-22  2:11       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-22  2:11         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-22  2:20         ` hpa
2018-01-22  2:20           ` hpa
2018-01-22 20:14           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-22 20:14             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-22 21:10             ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-01-22 21:10               ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-01-23 14:38               ` Alan Cox
2018-01-23 14:38                 ` Alan Cox
2018-01-22  2:27         ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-22  2:27           ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-22  8:56       ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-22  8:56         ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-23 14:57         ` Alan Cox
2018-01-23 14:57           ` Alan Cox
2018-01-25 17:09         ` Alan Cox
2018-01-25 17:09           ` Alan Cox
2018-01-26 12:36           ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-26 12:36             ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-22  9:55       ` David Laight
2018-01-22 10:04         ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-22 10:04           ` Joerg Roedel
2018-01-24 18:58 ` Krzysztof Mazur [this message]
2018-01-24 18:58   ` Krzysztof Mazur
2018-01-25 22:09   ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-25 22:09     ` Nadav Amit
2018-01-26  9:28     ` Krzysztof Mazur
2018-01-26  9:28       ` Krzysztof Mazur

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