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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, davej@codemonkey.org.uk,
	npiggin@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [4.15-rc9] fs_reclaim lockdep trace
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:55:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180129135547.GR2269@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201801292047.EHC05241.OHSQOJOVtFMFLF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 08:47:20PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 02:55:28PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > This warning seems to be caused by commit d92a8cfcb37ecd13
> > > ("locking/lockdep: Rework FS_RECLAIM annotation") which moved the
> > > location of
> > > 
> > >   /* this guy won't enter reclaim */
> > >   if ((current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC) && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOMEMALLOC))
> > >           return false;
> > > 
> > > check added by commit cf40bd16fdad42c0 ("lockdep: annotate reclaim context
> > > (__GFP_NOFS)").
> > 
> > I'm not entirly sure I get what you mean here. How did I move it? It was
> > part of lockdep_trace_alloc(), if __GFP_NOMEMALLOC was set, it would not
> > mark the lock as held.
> 
> d92a8cfcb37ecd13 replaced lockdep_set_current_reclaim_state() with
> fs_reclaim_acquire(), and removed current->lockdep_recursion handling.
> 
> ----------
> # git show d92a8cfcb37ecd13 | grep recursion
> -# define INIT_LOCKDEP                          .lockdep_recursion = 0, .lockdep_reclaim_gfp = 0,
> +# define INIT_LOCKDEP                          .lockdep_recursion = 0,
>         unsigned int                    lockdep_recursion;
> -       if (unlikely(current->lockdep_recursion))
> -       current->lockdep_recursion = 1;
> -       current->lockdep_recursion = 0;
> -        * context checking code. This tests GFP_FS recursion (a lock taken
> ----------

That should not matter at all. The only case that would matter for is if
lockdep itself would ever call into lockdep again. Not something that
happens here.

> > The new code has it in fs_reclaim_acquire/release to the same effect, if
> > __GFP_NOMEMALLOC, we'll not acquire/release the lock.
> 
> Excuse me, but I can't catch.
> We currently acquire/release __fs_reclaim_map if __GFP_NOMEMALLOC.

Right, got the case inverted, same difference though. Before we'd do
mark_held_lock(), now we do acquire/release under the same conditions.

> > > Since __kmalloc_reserve() from __alloc_skb() adds
> > > __GFP_NOMEMALLOC | __GFP_NOWARN to gfp_mask, __need_fs_reclaim() is
> > > failing to return false despite PF_MEMALLOC context (and resulted in
> > > lockdep warning).
> > 
> > But that's correct right, __GFP_NOMEMALLOC should negate PF_MEMALLOC.
> > That's what the name says.
> 
> __GFP_NOMEMALLOC negates PF_MEMALLOC regarding what watermark that allocation
> request should use.

Right.

> But at the same time, PF_MEMALLOC negates __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM.

Ah indeed.

> Then, how can fs_reclaim contribute to deadlock?

Not sure it can. But if we're going to allow this, it needs to come with
a clear description on why. Not a few clues to a puzzle.

Now, even if its not strictly a deadlock, there is something to be said
for flagging GFP_FS allocs that lead to nested GFP_FS allocs, do we ever
want to allow that?

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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>
Cc: torvalds@linux-foundation.org, davej@codemonkey.org.uk,
	npiggin@gmail.com, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org, mhocko@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [4.15-rc9] fs_reclaim lockdep trace
Date: Mon, 29 Jan 2018 14:55:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180129135547.GR2269@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201801292047.EHC05241.OHSQOJOVtFMFLF@I-love.SAKURA.ne.jp>

On Mon, Jan 29, 2018 at 08:47:20PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> Peter Zijlstra wrote:
> > On Sun, Jan 28, 2018 at 02:55:28PM +0900, Tetsuo Handa wrote:
> > > This warning seems to be caused by commit d92a8cfcb37ecd13
> > > ("locking/lockdep: Rework FS_RECLAIM annotation") which moved the
> > > location of
> > > 
> > >   /* this guy won't enter reclaim */
> > >   if ((current->flags & PF_MEMALLOC) && !(gfp_mask & __GFP_NOMEMALLOC))
> > >           return false;
> > > 
> > > check added by commit cf40bd16fdad42c0 ("lockdep: annotate reclaim context
> > > (__GFP_NOFS)").
> > 
> > I'm not entirly sure I get what you mean here. How did I move it? It was
> > part of lockdep_trace_alloc(), if __GFP_NOMEMALLOC was set, it would not
> > mark the lock as held.
> 
> d92a8cfcb37ecd13 replaced lockdep_set_current_reclaim_state() with
> fs_reclaim_acquire(), and removed current->lockdep_recursion handling.
> 
> ----------
> # git show d92a8cfcb37ecd13 | grep recursion
> -# define INIT_LOCKDEP                          .lockdep_recursion = 0, .lockdep_reclaim_gfp = 0,
> +# define INIT_LOCKDEP                          .lockdep_recursion = 0,
>         unsigned int                    lockdep_recursion;
> -       if (unlikely(current->lockdep_recursion))
> -       current->lockdep_recursion = 1;
> -       current->lockdep_recursion = 0;
> -        * context checking code. This tests GFP_FS recursion (a lock taken
> ----------

That should not matter at all. The only case that would matter for is if
lockdep itself would ever call into lockdep again. Not something that
happens here.

> > The new code has it in fs_reclaim_acquire/release to the same effect, if
> > __GFP_NOMEMALLOC, we'll not acquire/release the lock.
> 
> Excuse me, but I can't catch.
> We currently acquire/release __fs_reclaim_map if __GFP_NOMEMALLOC.

Right, got the case inverted, same difference though. Before we'd do
mark_held_lock(), now we do acquire/release under the same conditions.

> > > Since __kmalloc_reserve() from __alloc_skb() adds
> > > __GFP_NOMEMALLOC | __GFP_NOWARN to gfp_mask, __need_fs_reclaim() is
> > > failing to return false despite PF_MEMALLOC context (and resulted in
> > > lockdep warning).
> > 
> > But that's correct right, __GFP_NOMEMALLOC should negate PF_MEMALLOC.
> > That's what the name says.
> 
> __GFP_NOMEMALLOC negates PF_MEMALLOC regarding what watermark that allocation
> request should use.

Right.

> But at the same time, PF_MEMALLOC negates __GFP_DIRECT_RECLAIM.

Ah indeed.

> Then, how can fs_reclaim contribute to deadlock?

Not sure it can. But if we're going to allow this, it needs to come with
a clear description on why. Not a few clues to a puzzle.

Now, even if its not strictly a deadlock, there is something to be said
for flagging GFP_FS allocs that lead to nested GFP_FS allocs, do we ever
want to allow that?

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-01-29 13:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-24  1:36 [4.15-rc9] fs_reclaim lockdep trace Dave Jones
2018-01-24  1:36 ` Dave Jones
2018-01-27 22:24 ` Dave Jones
2018-01-27 22:24   ` Dave Jones
2018-01-27 22:43   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-27 22:43     ` Linus Torvalds
2018-01-28  1:16     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-28  1:16       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-28  4:25       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-28  4:25         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-28  5:55         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-28  5:55           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-28  5:55           ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-29  2:43           ` Dave Jones
2018-01-29  2:43             ` Dave Jones
2018-01-29 10:27           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-29 10:27             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-01-29 11:47             ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-29 11:47               ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-01-29 13:55               ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-01-29 13:55                 ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-02-01 11:36                 ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-01 11:36                   ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-08 11:43                   ` [PATCH v2] lockdep: Fix fs_reclaim warning Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-08 11:43                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-12 12:08                     ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-02-12 12:08                       ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-02-12 13:46                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-12 13:46                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-19 11:52                     ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-19 11:52                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-02-27 21:50                     ` [PATCH v2 (RESEND)] " Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-07 21:44                       ` Tetsuo Handa
2018-03-07 23:33                       ` Andrew Morton
2018-03-08 15:30                         ` Tetsuo Handa

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