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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: Christoffer Dall <christoffer.dall@linaro.org>
Cc: Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Shih-Wei Li <shihwei@cs.columbia.edu>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 26/41] KVM: arm64: Introduce framework for accessing deferred sysregs
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:27:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180213142749.GO5862@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180213085502.GF23189@cbox>

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 09:55:02AM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 04:17:39PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 08:54:13PM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 04:04:40PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:

[...]

> > > > The individual accessor functions also become unnecessary in this case,
> > > > because we wouldn't need to derive function pointers from them any
> > > > more.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know how performance would compare in practice though.
> > > 
> > > I don't know either.  But I will say that the whole idea behind put/load
> > > is that you do this rarely, and going to userspace from KVM is
> > > notriously expensive, also on x86.
> > 
> > I guess that makes sense.  I'm still a bit hazy on the big picture
> > for KVM.
> > 
> > > > I'm also assuming that all calls to these accessors are const-foldable.
> > > > If not, relying on inlining would bloat the generated code a lot.
> > > 
> > > We have places where this is not the cae, access_vm_reg() for example.
> > > But if we really, really, wanted to, we could rewrite that to have a
> > > function for each register, but that's pretty horrid on its own.
> > 
> > That might not be too bad if there is only one giant inline expansion
> > and the rest are folded down.
> > 
> > 
> > I guess this is something to revisit _if_ we suspect a performance
> > bottleneck later on.
> > 
> > For now, I was lacking some understanding regarding how this code gets
> > run, so I was guessing about potential issues rather then proven
> > issues.
> > 
> 
> This was a very useful discussion.  I think I'll change this to a big
> switch statement in the header file using a static inline, because it
> makes the code more readable, and if we notice a huge code size
> explosion, we can take measures to make sure things are const-foldable.

Sure, that sounds reasonable.

C99 inline semantics allow a single out-of-line body to be linked in
somewhere for when the function isn't inlined, so we might be able to
mitigate the bloat that way if it's a problem... unless the compiler
flags sabotage it (I remember GCC traditionally does something a bit
different where there's a particular difference between "inline" and
"extern inline".)

> > As you might guess, I'm still at the "stupid questions" stage for
> > this series :)
>
> Not at all.

Hmmm, I must try to be more stupid when I look at the other
patches...

Cheers
---Dave

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave.Martin@arm.com (Dave Martin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH v3 26/41] KVM: arm64: Introduce framework for accessing deferred sysregs
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 14:27:50 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180213142749.GO5862@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180213085502.GF23189@cbox>

On Tue, Feb 13, 2018 at 09:55:02AM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> On Fri, Feb 09, 2018 at 04:17:39PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:
> > On Thu, Jan 25, 2018 at 08:54:13PM +0100, Christoffer Dall wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 04:04:40PM +0000, Dave Martin wrote:

[...]

> > > > The individual accessor functions also become unnecessary in this case,
> > > > because we wouldn't need to derive function pointers from them any
> > > > more.
> > > > 
> > > > I don't know how performance would compare in practice though.
> > > 
> > > I don't know either.  But I will say that the whole idea behind put/load
> > > is that you do this rarely, and going to userspace from KVM is
> > > notriously expensive, also on x86.
> > 
> > I guess that makes sense.  I'm still a bit hazy on the big picture
> > for KVM.
> > 
> > > > I'm also assuming that all calls to these accessors are const-foldable.
> > > > If not, relying on inlining would bloat the generated code a lot.
> > > 
> > > We have places where this is not the cae, access_vm_reg() for example.
> > > But if we really, really, wanted to, we could rewrite that to have a
> > > function for each register, but that's pretty horrid on its own.
> > 
> > That might not be too bad if there is only one giant inline expansion
> > and the rest are folded down.
> > 
> > 
> > I guess this is something to revisit _if_ we suspect a performance
> > bottleneck later on.
> > 
> > For now, I was lacking some understanding regarding how this code gets
> > run, so I was guessing about potential issues rather then proven
> > issues.
> > 
> 
> This was a very useful discussion.  I think I'll change this to a big
> switch statement in the header file using a static inline, because it
> makes the code more readable, and if we notice a huge code size
> explosion, we can take measures to make sure things are const-foldable.

Sure, that sounds reasonable.

C99 inline semantics allow a single out-of-line body to be linked in
somewhere for when the function isn't inlined, so we might be able to
mitigate the bloat that way if it's a problem... unless the compiler
flags sabotage it (I remember GCC traditionally does something a bit
different where there's a particular difference between "inline" and
"extern inline".)

> > As you might guess, I'm still at the "stupid questions" stage for
> > this series :)
>
> Not at all.

Hmmm, I must try to be more stupid when I look at the other
patches...

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-13 14:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 223+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-01-12 12:07 [PATCH v3 00/41] Optimize KVM/ARM for VHE systems Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 01/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Avoid vcpu_load for other vcpu ioctls than KVM_RUN Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-05 12:32   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-05 12:32     ` Julien Grall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 02/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Move vcpu_load call after kvm_vcpu_first_run_init Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-05 14:34   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-05 14:34     ` Julien Grall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 03/41] KVM: arm64: Avoid storing the vcpu pointer on the stack Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-05 17:14   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-05 17:14     ` Julien Grall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 04/41] KVM: arm64: Rework hyp_panic for VHE and non-VHE Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-05 18:04   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-05 18:04     ` Julien Grall
2018-02-05 18:10     ` Julien Grall
2018-02-05 18:10       ` Julien Grall
2018-02-08 13:24     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-08 13:24       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 10:55       ` Julien Grall
2018-02-09 10:55         ` Julien Grall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 05/41] KVM: arm64: Move HCR_INT_OVERRIDE to default HCR_EL2 guest flag Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 11:38   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-09 11:38     ` Julien Grall
2018-02-13 21:47     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13 21:47       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 06/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Get rid of vcpu->arch.irq_lines Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 07/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Add kvm_vcpu_load_sysregs and kvm_vcpu_put_sysregs Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 08/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Introduce vcpu_el1_is_32bit Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-17 14:44   ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-17 14:44     ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-18 12:57     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 12:57       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 12:31   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-09 12:31     ` Julien Grall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 09/41] KVM: arm64: Defer restoring host VFP state to vcpu_put Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-22 17:33   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-22 17:33     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-25 19:46     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-25 19:46       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-07 16:49       ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 16:49         ` Dave Martin
2018-02-07 17:56         ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-07 17:56           ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 15:59           ` Dave Martin
2018-02-09 15:59             ` Dave Martin
2018-02-13  8:51             ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13  8:51               ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13 14:08               ` Dave Martin
2018-02-13 14:08                 ` Dave Martin
2018-02-14 10:15                 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-14 10:15                   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-14 14:43                   ` Dave Martin
2018-02-14 14:43                     ` Dave Martin
2018-02-14 17:38                     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-14 17:38                       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-14 17:43                       ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-14 17:43                         ` Ard Biesheuvel
2018-02-14 21:08                       ` Marc Zyngier
2018-02-14 21:08                         ` Marc Zyngier
2018-02-15  9:51                       ` Dave Martin
2018-02-15  9:51                         ` Dave Martin
2018-02-09 15:26   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-09 15:26     ` Julien Grall
2018-02-13  8:52     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13  8:52       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 10/41] KVM: arm64: Move debug dirty flag calculation out of world switch Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-17 15:11   ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-17 15:11     ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 11/41] KVM: arm64: Slightly improve debug save/restore functions Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 12/41] KVM: arm64: Improve debug register save/restore flow Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 13/41] KVM: arm64: Factor out fault info population and gic workarounds Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-17 15:35   ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 14/41] KVM: arm64: Introduce VHE-specific kvm_vcpu_run Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-24 16:13   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-24 16:13     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-25  8:45     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-25  8:45       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 17:34   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-09 17:34     ` Julien Grall
2018-02-13  8:52     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13  8:52       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 15/41] KVM: arm64: Remove kern_hyp_va() use in VHE switch function Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-24 16:24   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-24 16:24     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-25 19:48     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-25 19:48       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 16/41] KVM: arm64: Don't deactivate VM on VHE systems Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 17/41] KVM: arm64: Remove noop calls to timer save/restore from VHE switch Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 17:53   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-09 17:53     ` Julien Grall
2018-02-13  8:53     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13  8:53       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13 22:31     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13 22:31       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-19 16:30       ` Julien Grall
2018-02-19 16:30         ` Julien Grall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 18/41] KVM: arm64: Move userspace system registers into separate function Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 18:50   ` Julien Grall
2018-02-09 18:50     ` Julien Grall
2018-02-14 11:22     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-14 11:22       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 19/41] KVM: arm64: Rewrite sysreg alternatives to static keys Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 20/41] KVM: arm64: Introduce separate VHE/non-VHE sysreg save/restore functions Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 21/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Remove leftover comment from kvm_vcpu_run_vhe Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 22/41] KVM: arm64: Unify non-VHE host/guest sysreg save and restore functions Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 23/41] KVM: arm64: Don't save the host ELR_EL2 and SPSR_EL2 on VHE systems Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 24/41] KVM: arm64: Change 32-bit handling of VM system registers Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 25/41] KVM: arm64: Rewrite system register accessors to read/write functions Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 26/41] KVM: arm64: Introduce framework for accessing deferred sysregs Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-17 17:52   ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-17 17:52     ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-18 13:08     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 13:08       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 13:39       ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-18 13:39         ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-23 16:04   ` Dave Martin
2018-01-23 16:04     ` Dave Martin
2018-01-25 19:54     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-25 19:54       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-09 16:17       ` Dave Martin
2018-02-09 16:17         ` Dave Martin
2018-02-13  8:55         ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13  8:55           ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-13 14:27           ` Dave Martin [this message]
2018-02-13 14:27             ` Dave Martin
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 27/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Prepare to handle deferred save/restore of SPSR_EL1 Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 28/41] KVM: arm64: Prepare to handle deferred save/restore of ELR_EL1 Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 29/41] KVM: arm64: Defer saving/restoring 64-bit sysregs to vcpu load/put on VHE Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 30/41] KVM: arm64: Prepare to handle deferred save/restore of 32-bit registers Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-17 18:22   ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-17 18:22     ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-18 13:12     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 13:12       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 31/41] KVM: arm64: Defer saving/restoring 32-bit sysregs to vcpu load/put Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 32/41] KVM: arm64: Move common VHE/non-VHE trap config in separate functions Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 33/41] KVM: arm64: Configure FPSIMD traps on vcpu load/put Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18  9:31   ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-18  9:31     ` Julien Thierry
2018-01-31 12:17   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-01-31 12:17     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-05 10:06     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-05 10:06       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-31 12:24   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-01-31 12:24     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 34/41] KVM: arm64: Configure c15, PMU, and debug register traps on cpu load/put for VHE Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 35/41] KVM: arm64: Separate activate_traps and deactive_traps for VHE and non-VHE Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 36/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Get rid of vgic_elrsr Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 37/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Handle VGICv2 save/restore from the main VGIC code Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 38/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Move arm64-only vgic-v2-sr.c file to arm64 Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 39/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Handle VGICv3 save/restore from the main VGIC code on VHE Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 40/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Move VGIC APR save/restore to vgic put/load Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07 ` [PATCH v3 41/41] KVM: arm/arm64: Avoid VGICv3 save/restore on VHE with no IRQs Christoffer Dall
2018-01-12 12:07   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-05 13:29   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-05 13:29     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-08 15:48     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-08 15:48       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-15 14:14 ` [PATCH v3 00/41] Optimize KVM/ARM for VHE systems Yury Norov
2018-01-15 14:14   ` Yury Norov
2018-01-15 15:50   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-15 15:50     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-17  8:34     ` Yury Norov
2018-01-17  8:34       ` Yury Norov
2018-01-17 10:48       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-17 10:48         ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 11:16   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 11:16     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 12:18     ` Yury Norov
2018-01-18 12:18       ` Yury Norov
2018-01-18 13:32       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-18 13:32         ` Christoffer Dall
2018-01-22 13:40   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-01-22 13:40     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-01 13:57 ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-01 13:57   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-01 16:15   ` Yury Norov
2018-02-01 16:15     ` Yury Norov
2018-02-02 10:05     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-02 10:05       ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-02 10:07   ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-02 10:07     ` Tomasz Nowicki
2018-02-08 15:47   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-02-08 15:47     ` Christoffer Dall

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