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From: Ulf Magnusson <ulfalizer@gmail.com>
To: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/23] kconfig: add 'macro' keyword to support user-defined function
Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2018 00:51:38 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180216235138.b4p6q62auvnzb2sy@huvuddator> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <nycvar.YSQ.7.76.1802161438470.31719@knanqh.ubzr>

On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 02:49:31PM -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> 
> > Now, we got a basic ability to test compiler capability in Kconfig.
> > 
> > config CC_HAS_STACKPROTECTOR
> >         bool
> >         default $(shell $CC -Werror -fstack-protector -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)
> > 
> > This works, but it is ugly to repeat this long boilerplate.
> > 
> > We want to describe like this:
> > 
> > config CC_HAS_STACKPROTECTOR
> >         bool
> >         default $(cc-option -fstack-protector)
> > 
> > It is straight-forward to implement a new function, but I do not like
> > to hard-code specialized functions like this.  Hence, here is another
> > feature to add functions from Kconfig files.
> > 
> > A user-defined function can be defined as a string type symbol with
> > a special keyword 'macro'.  It can be referenced in the same way as
> > built-in functions.  This feature was also inspired by Makefile where
> > user-defined functions are referenced by $(call func-name, args...),
> > but I omitted the 'call' to makes it shorter.
> > 
> > The macro definition can contain $(1), $(2), ... which will be replaced
> > with arguments from the caller.
> > 
> > Example code:
> > 
> >   config cc-option
> >           string
> >           macro $(shell $CC -Werror $(1) -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)
> 
> I think this syntax for defining a macro shouldn't start with the 
> "config" keyword, unless you want it to be part of the config symbol 
> space and land it in .config. And typing it as a "string" while it 
> actually returns y/n (hence a bool) is also strange.
> 
> What about this instead:
> 
> macro cc-option
> 	bool $(shell $CC -Werror $(1) -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)
> 
> This makes it easier to extend as well if need be.
> 
> 
> Nicolas

I haven't gone over the patchset in detail yet and might be missing
something here, but if this is just meant to be a textual shorthand,
then why give it a type at all?

Do you think a simpler syntax like this would make sense?

	macro cc-option "$(shell $CC -Werror $(1) -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)"

That's the most general version, where you could use it for other stuff
besides $(shell ...) as well, just to keep parity.

You could then always just expand $() as a string, and maybe spit out
"n" and "y" in the cases Linus suggested for $(shell ...). The existing
logic for constant symbols should then take care of converting that into
a tristate value where appropriate.

If you go with that and want to support $() outside quotes, then

	$(foo)

would just be a shorthand for

	"$(foo)"

Are there any cases where something more advanced than that might be
warranted (e.g., macros that expand to complete expressions)? It seems
pretty nice and nonmagical otherwise.

Cheers,
Ulf

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-16 23:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-16 18:38 [PATCH 00/23] kconfig: move compiler capability tests to Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 01/23] kbuild: remove kbuild cache Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 02/23] kbuild: remove CONFIG_CROSS_COMPILE support Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 03/23] kconfig: add xstrdup() helper Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 15:02   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 04/23] kconfig: set SYMBOL_AUTO to the symbol marked with defconfig_list Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 15:05   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 17:11     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 05/23] kconfig: move and rename sym_expand_string_value() Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 06/23] kconfig: reference environments directly and remove 'option env=' syntax Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-18 11:15   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-18 11:15     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 07/23] kconfig: add function support and implement 'shell' function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-17 16:16   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 15:57     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-19 17:50       ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 20:06         ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 22:06           ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 08/23] kconfig: add 'macro' keyword to support user-defined function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 19:49   ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-16 23:51     ` Ulf Magnusson [this message]
2018-02-17  2:30       ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-17  4:29         ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-17  4:44           ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-17  6:06             ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 09/23] kconfig: add 'cc-option' macro Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 10/23] stack-protector: test compiler capability in Kconfig and drop AUTO mode Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  4:39   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 11/23] kconfig: add 'shell-stdout' function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 19:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19  4:48     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 17:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19 18:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19 18:54           ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21  4:59           ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 16:41             ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21 17:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 12/23] kconfig: replace $UNAME_RELEASE with function call Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 13/23] kconfig: expand environments/functions in (main)menu, comment, prompt Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 14/23] kconfig: show compiler version text in the top comment Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 15/23] kconfig: add CC_IS_GCC and GCC_VERSION Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 16/23] kbuild: add clang-version.sh Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 17/23] kconfig: add CC_IS_CLANG and CLANG_VERSION Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 18/23] gcov: remove CONFIG_GCOV_FORMAT_AUTODETECT Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 19/23] kcov: imply GCC_PLUGINS and GCC_PLUGIN_SANCOV instead of select'ing them Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 20/23] gcc-plugins: always build plugins with C++ Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-22 18:45   ` Emese Revfy
2018-02-22 18:45     ` Emese Revfy
2018-02-23 12:37     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 21/23] gcc-plugins: move GCC version check for PowerPC to Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-22  5:04   ` Andrew Donnellan
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 22/23] gcc-plugins: test GCC plugin support in Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 23/23] gcc-plugins: enable GCC_PLUGINS for COMPILE_TEST Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-18 22:13 ` [PATCH 00/23] kconfig: move compiler capability tests to Kconfig Sam Ravnborg
2018-02-18 22:13   ` Sam Ravnborg
2018-02-19 15:18   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 15:18     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21  7:38     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  7:38       ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  9:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21  9:56         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 10:20         ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 10:20           ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 10:52           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 10:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 12:57             ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 12:57               ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 16:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 16:03                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 21:39               ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21 21:39                 ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  5:50                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-02  5:50                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-02  5:50                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-02  9:03                   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:03                     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:03                     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:12                     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:12                       ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:12                       ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-22  3:22               ` Michael Ellerman
2018-02-22  3:22                 ` Michael Ellerman
2018-02-22  3:22                 ` Michael Ellerman

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