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From: Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
To: Ulf Magnusson <ulfalizer@gmail.com>
Cc: Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	linux-kbuild@vger.kernel.org,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@linuxfoundation.org>,
	Arnd Bergmann <arnd@arndb.de>, Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <rdunlap@infradead.org>,
	Sam Ravnborg <sam@ravnborg.org>,
	Michal Marek <michal.lkml@markovi.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 08/23] kconfig: add 'macro' keyword to support user-defined function
Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2018 21:30:38 -0500 (EST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <nycvar.YSQ.7.76.1802162118010.31644@knanqh.ubzr> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180216235138.b4p6q62auvnzb2sy@huvuddator>

On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Ulf Magnusson wrote:

> On Fri, Feb 16, 2018 at 02:49:31PM -0500, Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> > On Sat, 17 Feb 2018, Masahiro Yamada wrote:
> > 
> > > Now, we got a basic ability to test compiler capability in Kconfig.
> > > 
> > > config CC_HAS_STACKPROTECTOR
> > >         bool
> > >         default $(shell $CC -Werror -fstack-protector -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)
> > > 
> > > This works, but it is ugly to repeat this long boilerplate.
> > > 
> > > We want to describe like this:
> > > 
> > > config CC_HAS_STACKPROTECTOR
> > >         bool
> > >         default $(cc-option -fstack-protector)
> > > 
> > > It is straight-forward to implement a new function, but I do not like
> > > to hard-code specialized functions like this.  Hence, here is another
> > > feature to add functions from Kconfig files.
> > > 
> > > A user-defined function can be defined as a string type symbol with
> > > a special keyword 'macro'.  It can be referenced in the same way as
> > > built-in functions.  This feature was also inspired by Makefile where
> > > user-defined functions are referenced by $(call func-name, args...),
> > > but I omitted the 'call' to makes it shorter.
> > > 
> > > The macro definition can contain $(1), $(2), ... which will be replaced
> > > with arguments from the caller.
> > > 
> > > Example code:
> > > 
> > >   config cc-option
> > >           string
> > >           macro $(shell $CC -Werror $(1) -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)
> > 
> > I think this syntax for defining a macro shouldn't start with the 
> > "config" keyword, unless you want it to be part of the config symbol 
> > space and land it in .config. And typing it as a "string" while it 
> > actually returns y/n (hence a bool) is also strange.
> > 
> > What about this instead:
> > 
> > macro cc-option
> > 	bool $(shell $CC -Werror $(1) -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)
> > 
> > This makes it easier to extend as well if need be.
> > 
> > 
> > Nicolas
> 
> I haven't gone over the patchset in detail yet and might be missing
> something here, but if this is just meant to be a textual shorthand,
> then why give it a type at all?

It is meant to be like a user-defined function.

> Do you think a simpler syntax like this would make sense?
> 
> 	macro cc-option "$(shell $CC -Werror $(1) -c -x c /dev/null -o /dev/null)"
> 
> That's the most general version, where you could use it for other stuff
> besides $(shell ...) as well, just to keep parity.

This is not extendable.  Let's imagine that you might want to implement 
some kind of conditionals some day e.g.:

macro complex_test
	bool $(shell foo) if LOCKDEP_SUPPORT
	bool y if DEBUG_DRIVER
	bool n

There is no real advantage to simplify the macro definition to its 
simplest expression, unlike its actual usage.

> Are there any cases where something more advanced than that might be
> warranted (e.g., macros that expand to complete expressions)?

Maybe not now, but there is no need to close the door on the possibility 
either.


Nicolas

  reply	other threads:[~2018-02-17  2:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 85+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-02-16 18:38 [PATCH 00/23] kconfig: move compiler capability tests to Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 01/23] kbuild: remove kbuild cache Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 02/23] kbuild: remove CONFIG_CROSS_COMPILE support Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 03/23] kconfig: add xstrdup() helper Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 15:02   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 04/23] kconfig: set SYMBOL_AUTO to the symbol marked with defconfig_list Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 15:05   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-01 17:11     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 05/23] kconfig: move and rename sym_expand_string_value() Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 06/23] kconfig: reference environments directly and remove 'option env=' syntax Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-18 11:15   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-18 11:15     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 07/23] kconfig: add function support and implement 'shell' function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-17 16:16   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 15:57     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-19 17:50       ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 20:06         ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 22:06           ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 08/23] kconfig: add 'macro' keyword to support user-defined function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 19:49   ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-16 23:51     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-17  2:30       ` Nicolas Pitre [this message]
2018-02-17  4:29         ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-17  4:44           ` Nicolas Pitre
2018-02-17  6:06             ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 09/23] kconfig: add 'cc-option' macro Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 10/23] stack-protector: test compiler capability in Kconfig and drop AUTO mode Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  4:39   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 11/23] kconfig: add 'shell-stdout' function Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 19:17   ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19  4:48     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 17:44       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19 18:01         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-19 18:54           ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21  4:59           ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 16:41             ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21 17:01             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 12/23] kconfig: replace $UNAME_RELEASE with function call Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 13/23] kconfig: expand environments/functions in (main)menu, comment, prompt Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 14/23] kconfig: show compiler version text in the top comment Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 15/23] kconfig: add CC_IS_GCC and GCC_VERSION Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 16/23] kbuild: add clang-version.sh Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 17/23] kconfig: add CC_IS_CLANG and CLANG_VERSION Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 18/23] gcov: remove CONFIG_GCOV_FORMAT_AUTODETECT Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 19/23] kcov: imply GCC_PLUGINS and GCC_PLUGIN_SANCOV instead of select'ing them Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 20/23] gcc-plugins: always build plugins with C++ Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-22 18:45   ` Emese Revfy
2018-02-22 18:45     ` Emese Revfy
2018-02-23 12:37     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 21/23] gcc-plugins: move GCC version check for PowerPC to Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-22  5:04   ` Andrew Donnellan
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 22/23] gcc-plugins: test GCC plugin support in Kconfig Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-16 18:38 ` [PATCH 23/23] gcc-plugins: enable GCC_PLUGINS for COMPILE_TEST Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-18 22:13 ` [PATCH 00/23] kconfig: move compiler capability tests to Kconfig Sam Ravnborg
2018-02-18 22:13   ` Sam Ravnborg
2018-02-19 15:18   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-19 15:18     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21  7:38     ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  7:38       ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21  9:56       ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21  9:56         ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 10:20         ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 10:20           ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 10:52           ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 10:52             ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 12:57             ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 12:57               ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-02-21 16:03               ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 16:03                 ` Arnd Bergmann
2018-02-21 21:39               ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-21 21:39                 ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  5:50                 ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-02  5:50                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-02  5:50                   ` Masahiro Yamada
2018-03-02  9:03                   ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:03                     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:03                     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:12                     ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:12                       ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-03-02  9:12                       ` Ulf Magnusson
2018-02-22  3:22               ` Michael Ellerman
2018-02-22  3:22                 ` Michael Ellerman
2018-02-22  3:22                 ` Michael Ellerman

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