From: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
To: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
Cc: Christoph Hellwig <hch@infradead.org>, xfs <linux-xfs@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] misc: enable retpolines across all xfsprogs utilities
Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2018 09:15:29 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180222171529.GC9827@magnolia> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4d78832f-4148-d0d9-e2f2-ee8e02a44e97@redhat.com>
On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 09:31:41AM -0600, Eric Sandeen wrote:
> On 2/22/18 9:09 AM, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> > On Wed, Feb 21, 2018 at 06:16:25PM -0800, Darrick J. Wong wrote:
> >> From: Darrick J. Wong <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
> >>
> >> Detect and enable retpolines for all code, to mitigate Spectre v2
> >> (branch target injection) on x86.
> >
> > The mechanics look ok, but why do we really care for xfsprogs?
> > fs utilities seem like a lesser target and should just be covered
They're a smaller target than the kernel, for sure, but the scary part
about spectre is that unprivileged programs running on the same core as
a privileged xfs_repair can then use branch predictor poisoning to cause
problems with the xfs_repair.
> > by hopefully sane compiler defaults, shouldn't they?
I would have thought so, but look at the gcc manpage:
-mindirect-branch=choice
Convert indirect call and jump with choice. The default is
keep, which keeps indirect call and jump unmodified. thunk
Unmodified, as in don't provide spectre mitigations...
converts indirect call and jump to call and return thunk.
thunk-inline converts indirect call and jump to inlined call and
return thunk. thunk-extern converts indirect call and jump to
external call and return thunk provided in a separate object
file. You can control this behavior for a specific function by
using the function attribute "indirect_branch".
Note that -mcmodel=large is incompatible with
-mindirect-branch=thunk nor -mindirect-branch=thunk-extern since
the thunk function may not be reachable in large code model.
So, gcc defaults to unprotected.
> That's my feeling as well - does manually fixing one utility out of
> hundreds on the system help anything? Shouldn't this be done via toolchain
> or distro-package-build defaults?
Maybe they will someday, but right now:
$ dpkg-buildflags --get CFLAGS
-g -O2 -fdebug-prefix-map=/home/djwong=. -fstack-protector-strong -Wformat -Werror=format-security
It's not clear to me if Debian plans to adopt the per-platform spectre
mitigations distro-wide or just for specific packages, or what? So far
it looks like Ubuntu is only doing it for their browser packages. libc
hasn't been rebuilt, which limits the effectiveness of turning it on for
xfsprogs, but otoh we could still protect the bits we control.
--D
> -Eric
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-02-22 17:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-02-22 2:16 [PATCH] misc: enable retpolines across all xfsprogs utilities Darrick J. Wong
2018-02-22 15:09 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-02-22 15:31 ` Eric Sandeen
2018-02-22 17:15 ` Darrick J. Wong [this message]
2018-02-22 21:10 ` Matthias Schniedermeyer
2018-02-22 23:57 ` Dave Chinner
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