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From: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>
Cc: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, libvir-list@redhat.com,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	Gary Ching-Pang Lin <glin@suse.com>,
	Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
	Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>,
	David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>,
	Laurent Vivier <lvivier@redhat.com>,
	Mark Cave-Ayland <mark.cave-ayland@ilande.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu RFC] qapi: add "firmware.json"
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 08:18:40 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180410061840.k263ac2b2lgnwi5c@sirius.home.kraxel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <43fbc488-20d6-f5de-0a56-6c28355cc4d4@redhat.com>

  Hi,

> > uboot for example implements uefi unterfaces too (dunno how complete,
> > but reportly recent versions can run uefi shell and grub just fine).
> 
> Indeed: when I was struggling with this enum type and tried to look for
> more firmware types to add, my googling turned up the "UEFI on Top of
> U-Boot" whitepaper, from Alex and Andreas :)

In case you wanna play: uboot supports x86 qemu meanwhile, so you can
try install u-boot.git-x86 from my firmware repo, then run
"qemu-system-x86_64 -bios /usr/share/u-boot.git/x86/qemu-pc/u-boot.rom".

It certainly isn't a useful edk2 replacement atm.  It has no virtio
drivers.  And even when using ide storage its not like it would happily
boot a fedora live iso.  So I certainly wouldn't tag that as uefi today.
That might change at some point in the future though.

> Again, this reaches to the root of the problem: when a user creates a
> new domain, using high-level tools, they just want to tick "UEFI". (Dan
> has emphasized this to me several times, so I think I get the idea by
> now, if not the full environment.) We cannot ask the user, "please be
> more specific, do you want UEFI from edk2, or UEFI on top of U-Boot?"

Well, in case the uefi support in u-boot is good enough some day then it
doesn't matter to the user whenever uboot or edk2 boots the efi guest
from disk/iso, right?

cheers,
  Gerd

  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-10  6:18 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-07  0:01 [Qemu-devel] [qemu RFC] qapi: add "firmware.json" Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  7:26 ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-09  8:19   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-09 16:50     ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  6:18       ` Gerd Hoffmann [this message]
2018-04-10  9:09         ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  7:33       ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10  9:22         ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:32           ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10 11:53             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:09       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-09 16:34   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  5:59     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10  9:07       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:51         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10  9:55           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 12:04             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  7:44     ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10  8:57       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:05     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10  9:19       ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10 11:40       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  8:08 ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-09 16:42   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  6:27     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10  9:16       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:23         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 10:09           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-10 11:46             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:26         ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10 11:53           ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:34         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:57           ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  8:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-09 16:53   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  8:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-09 17:57   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:18     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:27       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10 11:34         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:44           ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10 11:50             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:48           ` Peter Maydell
2018-04-10 11:52             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:03   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:37     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10 12:12   ` Laszlo Ersek

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