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From: Thomas Huth <thuth@redhat.com>
To: Laszlo Ersek <lersek@redhat.com>, Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, libvir-list@redhat.com,
	"Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	David Gibson <dgibson@redhat.com>, Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>,
	Gary Ching-Pang Lin <glin@suse.com>,
	Kashyap Chamarthy <kchamart@redhat.com>,
	Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>,
	Michael Roth <mdroth@linux.vnet.ibm.com>,
	Michal Privoznik <mprivozn@redhat.com>,
	Peter Krempa <pkrempa@redhat.com>,
	Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [qemu RFC] qapi: add "firmware.json"
Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2018 11:26:54 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <74f1de8d-d1b0-fe55-5809-29e133279c37@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <dc439111-4161-96e6-5b45-4dcee886427d@redhat.com>

On 10.04.2018 11:16, Laszlo Ersek wrote:
> On 04/10/18 08:27, Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>   Hi,
>>
>>> - I considered adding wildcards (say, blacklist "all" i440fx machtypes,
>>> present and future, for SMM-requiring OVMF builds), but then you get
>>> into version sorting and similar mess. I considered fnmatch() --
>>> basically simple ? and * wildcards -- but that's not expressive enough.
>>
>> I'd suggest whitelist with wildcards.  So the smm builds would get
>> "pc-q35-*".
>>
>> libvirt knows about aliases, so it should be able to handle the "q35"
>> shortcut like "pc-q35-${latest}".
>>
>> Or do you see another issue?
> 
> Well, one issue I see is version sorting; I should say "Q35 but no
> earlier than 2.4", and lexicographically, "2.11" sorts before "2.4".
> 
> Anyway (also asking for Thomas's input here): if we run with your idea
> to refer to exact mapping methods / firmware *implementation* types that
> we know libvirt implements / supports as a "white box", do we still deem
> machine type identification necessary? Because, libvirt already knows
> (for example) that "ovmf_smm" requires pc-q35-2.4 or later. So we just
> have to make a *reference* to that knowledge in the JSON file.

I think you really need a way to specify the machine there. Latest
example from QEMU 2.12: We've now got two uboot binaries in the tree,
pc-bios/u-boot.e500 and pc-bios/u-boot-sam460-20100605.bin. Both are
uboot, both are for ppc, but u-boot.e500 only works with the "ppce500"
machine and the other one only works with the "sam460ex" machine. How
would you teach libvirt such a relationship without an explicit machine
type identification field there?

 Thomas

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-04-10  9:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-07  0:01 [Qemu-devel] [qemu RFC] qapi: add "firmware.json" Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  7:26 ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-09  8:19   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-09 16:50     ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  6:18       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10  9:09         ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  7:33       ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10  9:22         ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:32           ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10 11:53             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:09       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-09 16:34   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  5:59     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10  9:07       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:51         ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10  9:55           ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 12:04             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  7:44     ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10  8:57       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:05     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10  9:19       ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-10 11:40       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  8:08 ` Thomas Huth
2018-04-09 16:42   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  6:27     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10  9:16       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:23         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 10:09           ` Paolo Bonzini
2018-04-10 11:46             ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:26         ` Thomas Huth [this message]
2018-04-10 11:53           ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:34         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:57           ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  8:26 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-09 16:53   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-09  8:49 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-09 17:57   ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10  9:18     ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:27       ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10 11:34         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:44           ` Laszlo Ersek
2018-04-10 11:50             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:48           ` Peter Maydell
2018-04-10 11:52             ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 10:20 ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:03   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-04-10 11:37     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2018-04-10 12:12   ` Laszlo Ersek

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