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From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, berrange@redhat.com, kwolf@redhat.com,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: cover letter cc's [was: [PATCH 60/67] hw/s390x: add include directory headers]
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 15:26:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180504152658.3537707a.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be79d6dd-beaa-ba6f-2990-b5e91139411b@redhat.com>

On Fri, 4 May 2018 08:07:53 -0500
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> wrote:

> [adding a cross-post to the git mailing list]
> 
> On 05/04/2018 02:10 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 May 2018 22:51:40 +0300
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> This way they are easier to find using standard rules.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >> ---  
> ...
> 
> > [Goes to find cover letter to figure out what this is all about.
> > *Please*, cc: people on the cover letter so they can see immediately
> > what this is trying to do!]  
> 
> Is there an EASY way to make 'git format-patch --cover-letter $commitid' 
> (and git send-email, by extension) automatically search for all cc's any 
> any of the N/M patches, and auto-cc ALL of those recipients on the 0/N 
> cover letter?  And if that is not something easily built into git 
> format-patch directly, is it something that can easily be added to 
> sendemail.cccmd?  This is not the first time that someone has complained 
> that automatic cc's are not sending the cover letter context to a 
> particular maintainer interested (and auto-cc'd) in only a subset of an 
> overall series.

I think for most cases where I've been cc:ed on the cover letter and
only some of the patches, people actually added cc: lines to the cover
letter manually.

> 
> On the other hand, cc'ing all recipients for a largely mechanical patch 
> series that was split into 67 parts, in part because it touches so many 
> different maintainers' areas, may make the cover letter have so many 
> recipients that various mail gateways start rejecting it as potential spam.

Yes, large cross-subsystem patch series make this painful.

If I get some patches like "subsystem: frobnicate foo" and it's clear
that it's simply frobnicating foo for various subsystems, I can see
what this is about without reading the cover letter, no need to cc: me.
In this case, however, the patch did not make any sense at all without
looking at the explanation in the cover letter.

So I think we don't want to do this automatically, although some way to
collect potential candidates for cc:ing on the cover letter might be
helpful.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cornelia Huck <cohuck@redhat.com>
To: Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, berrange@redhat.com, kwolf@redhat.com,
	peter.maydell@linaro.org,
	Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	qemu-s390x@nongnu.org, git@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] cover letter cc's [was: [PATCH 60/67] hw/s390x: add include directory headers]
Date: Fri, 4 May 2018 15:26:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180504152658.3537707a.cohuck@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <be79d6dd-beaa-ba6f-2990-b5e91139411b@redhat.com>

On Fri, 4 May 2018 08:07:53 -0500
Eric Blake <eblake@redhat.com> wrote:

> [adding a cross-post to the git mailing list]
> 
> On 05/04/2018 02:10 AM, Cornelia Huck wrote:
> > On Thu, 3 May 2018 22:51:40 +0300
> > "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> wrote:
> >   
> >> This way they are easier to find using standard rules.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Michael S. Tsirkin <mst@redhat.com>
> >> ---  
> ...
> 
> > [Goes to find cover letter to figure out what this is all about.
> > *Please*, cc: people on the cover letter so they can see immediately
> > what this is trying to do!]  
> 
> Is there an EASY way to make 'git format-patch --cover-letter $commitid' 
> (and git send-email, by extension) automatically search for all cc's any 
> any of the N/M patches, and auto-cc ALL of those recipients on the 0/N 
> cover letter?  And if that is not something easily built into git 
> format-patch directly, is it something that can easily be added to 
> sendemail.cccmd?  This is not the first time that someone has complained 
> that automatic cc's are not sending the cover letter context to a 
> particular maintainer interested (and auto-cc'd) in only a subset of an 
> overall series.

I think for most cases where I've been cc:ed on the cover letter and
only some of the patches, people actually added cc: lines to the cover
letter manually.

> 
> On the other hand, cc'ing all recipients for a largely mechanical patch 
> series that was split into 67 parts, in part because it touches so many 
> different maintainers' areas, may make the cover letter have so many 
> recipients that various mail gateways start rejecting it as potential spam.

Yes, large cross-subsystem patch series make this painful.

If I get some patches like "subsystem: frobnicate foo" and it's clear
that it's simply frobnicating foo for various subsystems, I can see
what this is about without reading the cover letter, no need to cc: me.
In this case, however, the patch did not make any sense at all without
looking at the explanation in the cover letter.

So I think we don't want to do this automatically, although some way to
collect potential candidates for cc:ing on the cover letter might be
helpful.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-04 13:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 144+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-03 19:50 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/67] include path cleanup Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 01/67] block: use local path for local headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  9:32   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 02/67] crypto: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 03/67] hppa: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04 16:29   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 04/67] s390x: drop an unused include Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  0:24   ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 13:23     ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-08 13:38       ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 13:45         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-08 13:50           ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-08 14:06             ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-08 14:17               ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 05/67] migration: drop an unused include, add a used one Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:02   ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 20:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:18       ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 20:29         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:45           ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 06/67] trace: use local path for local headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  8:10   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-04 16:31   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 07/67] display: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04 16:33   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 08/67] ide: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 09/67] ioapic: fix up includes Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 10/67] e1000e: use local path for local headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 11/67] rocker: drop an unused include Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 12:58   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 12/67] ppc: use local path for local headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 23:34   ` David Gibson
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 13/67] vhost-scsi: drop an unused include Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 12:59   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 14/67] sd: fix up include Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04 16:35   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 15/67] usb: use local path for local headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 16/67] migration: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 12:21   ` Juan Quintela
2018-05-08 13:12     ` Eric Blake
2018-05-08 14:28       ` Juan Quintela
2018-05-08 14:54         ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 17/67] colo: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  4:23   ` Zhang Chen
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 18/67] qga: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 12:45   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 19/67] xtensa: relative include for parent directory Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 20/67] tests: relative include for child directory Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 12:22   ` Juan Quintela
2018-05-03 19:50 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 21/67] trace: use local path for local headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  8:09   ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-05-04 16:36   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 22/67] ui: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 12:47   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 23/67] slirp: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-31 18:50   ` Samuel Thibault
2018-05-31 19:25     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 25/67] arch_init: sort architectures Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 24/67] net: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 26/67] cpu: replace command line flags with preprocessor Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:08   ` Eric Blake
2018-05-04  0:35   ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-04  1:01     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  1:11       ` Thomas Huth
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 27/67] replication: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  9:29   ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-04 14:52     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04 15:04       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 29/67] fsdev: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 28/67] 9pfs: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 31/67] target/cris: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 30/67] audio: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 32/67] ui: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 33/67] hw/net: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 34/67] hw/ppc: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  0:15   ` David Gibson
2018-05-04  2:39     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  3:07       ` David Gibson
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 35/67] hw/usb: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 36/67] migration: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 12:25   ` Juan Quintela
2018-05-08 12:56     ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-05-11 17:23     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-11 17:26       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 37/67] tcg: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 38/67] helper: replace command line flags with preprocessor Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:09   ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 39/67] target: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:11   ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 20:15     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 40/67] trace: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 42/67] tcg: use include "tcg.h" consistently Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  5:40   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 41/67] tcg-pool.inc.c: replace command line flags with preprocessor Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:12   ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 20:16     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 43/67] translate-all: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 44/67] tcg-ldst.inc.c: replace command line flags with preprocessor Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 45/67] tcg: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 46/67] cpu-qom: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 48/67] virtio-pci: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 47/67] tcg-op: use include "tcg.h" consistently Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 50/67] hmp: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 49/67] kvm_XXX: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 51/67] hyperv: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 52/67] target/arm: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 53/67] target/ppc: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 54/67] amd_iommu: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 56/67] tcg: use include "tcg-gvec-desc.h.h" consistently Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 55/67] amd_iommu: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 58/67] target/riscv: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 57/67] kvm: use include "kvm_i386.h" consistently Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  5:40   ` Marcel Apfelbaum
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 59/67] hw/ppc: add target headers explicitly Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 23:36   ` David Gibson
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 60/67] hw/s390x: add include directory headers Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  7:10   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-04 13:07     ` cover letter cc's [was: [PATCH 60/67] hw/s390x: add include directory headers] Eric Blake
2018-05-04 13:07       ` [Qemu-devel] " Eric Blake
2018-05-04 13:26       ` Cornelia Huck [this message]
2018-05-04 13:26         ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-04 13:32         ` Peter Maydell
2018-05-04 13:32           ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2018-05-04 21:38       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04 21:38         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 61/67] hw/net: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 62/67] kvm: use include "kvm_ppc.h" consistently Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  0:17   ` David Gibson
2018-05-04  2:44     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-04  3:15       ` David Gibson
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 63/67] hw/s390x: use target headers explicitly Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 13:48   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 64/67] target/s390x: add include directory header Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-08 13:50   ` Cornelia Huck
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 66/67] linux-user: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 65/67] tcg: use include "translate-all.h" consistently Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 19:51 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 67/67] make: simplify source include path Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:22   ` Eric Blake
2018-05-03 20:31     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-05-03 20:58 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 00/67] include path cleanup no-reply
2018-05-03 20:58 ` no-reply
2018-05-03 21:00 ` no-reply
2018-05-03 21:01 ` no-reply
2018-05-09 10:39 ` Paolo Bonzini

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