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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>
Cc: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>,
	tglx@linutronix.de, Peter Anvin <h.peter.anvin@intel.com>,
	kernel test robot <xiaolong.ye@intel.com>,
	Andrew Lutomirski <luto@kernel.org>,
	Borislav Petkov <bp@alien8.de>, Brian Gerst <brgerst@gmail.com>,
	Denys Vlasenko <dvlasenk@redhat.com>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Peter Anvin <hpa@zytor.com>, tipbuild@zytor.com, LKP <lkp@01.org>,
	torvalds@linux-foundation.org, x86@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/asm: Pad assembly functions with INT3 instructions
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 08:02:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180518130224.4bmp6s6wnjucypml@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180518073644.GA8593@gmail.com>

On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Use INT3 instead of NOP. All that padding between functions is
> > an illegal area, no legitimate code should jump into it.
> > 
> > I've checked x86_64 allyesconfig disassembly, all changes looks sane:
> > INT3 is only used after RET or unconditional JMP.
> > 
> > On i386:
> > * promote ret_from_exception into ENTRY as it has corresponding END,
> > * demote "resume_userspace" -- unused,
> > * delete ALIGN directive in page_fault. It is leftover from x86 assembly
> >   cleanups.
> > 
> >     commit d211af055d0c12dc3416c2886e6fbdc6eb74a381
> >     i386: get rid of the use of KPROBE_ENTRY / KPROBE_END
> > 
> >   has ALIGN directive before branch target which makes sense.
> >   All the code after ALIGN disappeared later.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > 
> >  arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S      |    6 +-----
> >  arch/x86/include/asm/linkage.h |    2 +-
> >  2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > 
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > @@ -320,8 +320,7 @@ END(ret_from_fork)
> >   */
> >  
> >  	# userspace resumption stub bypassing syscall exit tracing
> > -	ALIGN
> > -ret_from_exception:
> > +ENTRY(ret_from_exception)
> >  	preempt_stop(CLBR_ANY)
> >  ret_from_intr:
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_VM86
> > @@ -337,8 +336,6 @@ ret_from_intr:
> >  #endif
> >  	cmpl	$USER_RPL, %eax
> >  	jb	resume_kernel			# not returning to v8086 or userspace
> > -
> > -ENTRY(resume_userspace)
> >  	DISABLE_INTERRUPTS(CLBR_ANY)
> >  	TRACE_IRQS_OFF
> >  	movl	%esp, %eax
> > @@ -910,7 +907,6 @@ BUILD_INTERRUPT3(hv_stimer0_callback_vector, HYPERV_STIMER0_VECTOR,
> >  ENTRY(page_fault)
> >  	ASM_CLAC
> >  	pushl	$do_page_fault
> > -	ALIGN
> >  	jmp common_exception
> >  END(page_fault)
> >  
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/linkage.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/linkage.h
> > @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
> >  	name:
> >  
> >  #if defined(CONFIG_X86_64) || defined(CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16)
> > -#define __ALIGN		.p2align 4, 0x90
> > +#define __ALIGN		.p2align 4, 0xCC
> >  #define __ALIGN_STR	__stringify(__ALIGN)
> >  #endif
> 
> So the question is, without objtool support, how will we find INT3-padding related 
> crash bugs on 32-bit kernels?

Is the INT3 padding really worth it, even on x86-64?  What problem are
we trying to solve?

I've seen cases with GCC functions falling through, but with asm code,
falling through could just be working as designed.

-- 
Josh

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From: Josh Poimboeuf <jpoimboe@redhat.com>
To: lkp@lists.01.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2] x86/asm: Pad assembly functions with INT3 instructions
Date: Fri, 18 May 2018 08:02:24 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180518130224.4bmp6s6wnjucypml@treble> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180518073644.GA8593@gmail.com>

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On Fri, May 18, 2018 at 09:36:44AM +0200, Ingo Molnar wrote:
> 
> * Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> > Use INT3 instead of NOP. All that padding between functions is
> > an illegal area, no legitimate code should jump into it.
> > 
> > I've checked x86_64 allyesconfig disassembly, all changes looks sane:
> > INT3 is only used after RET or unconditional JMP.
> > 
> > On i386:
> > * promote ret_from_exception into ENTRY as it has corresponding END,
> > * demote "resume_userspace" -- unused,
> > * delete ALIGN directive in page_fault. It is leftover from x86 assembly
> >   cleanups.
> > 
> >     commit d211af055d0c12dc3416c2886e6fbdc6eb74a381
> >     i386: get rid of the use of KPROBE_ENTRY / KPROBE_END
> > 
> >   has ALIGN directive before branch target which makes sense.
> >   All the code after ALIGN disappeared later.
> > 
> > Signed-off-by: Alexey Dobriyan <adobriyan@gmail.com>
> > ---
> > 
> >  arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S      |    6 +-----
> >  arch/x86/include/asm/linkage.h |    2 +-
> >  2 files changed, 2 insertions(+), 6 deletions(-)
> > 
> > --- a/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > +++ b/arch/x86/entry/entry_32.S
> > @@ -320,8 +320,7 @@ END(ret_from_fork)
> >   */
> >  
> >  	# userspace resumption stub bypassing syscall exit tracing
> > -	ALIGN
> > -ret_from_exception:
> > +ENTRY(ret_from_exception)
> >  	preempt_stop(CLBR_ANY)
> >  ret_from_intr:
> >  #ifdef CONFIG_VM86
> > @@ -337,8 +336,6 @@ ret_from_intr:
> >  #endif
> >  	cmpl	$USER_RPL, %eax
> >  	jb	resume_kernel			# not returning to v8086 or userspace
> > -
> > -ENTRY(resume_userspace)
> >  	DISABLE_INTERRUPTS(CLBR_ANY)
> >  	TRACE_IRQS_OFF
> >  	movl	%esp, %eax
> > @@ -910,7 +907,6 @@ BUILD_INTERRUPT3(hv_stimer0_callback_vector, HYPERV_STIMER0_VECTOR,
> >  ENTRY(page_fault)
> >  	ASM_CLAC
> >  	pushl	$do_page_fault
> > -	ALIGN
> >  	jmp common_exception
> >  END(page_fault)
> >  
> > --- a/arch/x86/include/asm/linkage.h
> > +++ b/arch/x86/include/asm/linkage.h
> > @@ -18,7 +18,7 @@
> >  	name:
> >  
> >  #if defined(CONFIG_X86_64) || defined(CONFIG_X86_ALIGNMENT_16)
> > -#define __ALIGN		.p2align 4, 0x90
> > +#define __ALIGN		.p2align 4, 0xCC
> >  #define __ALIGN_STR	__stringify(__ALIGN)
> >  #endif
> 
> So the question is, without objtool support, how will we find INT3-padding related 
> crash bugs on 32-bit kernels?

Is the INT3 padding really worth it, even on x86-64?  What problem are
we trying to solve?

I've seen cases with GCC functions falling through, but with asm code,
falling through could just be working as designed.

-- 
Josh

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-18 13:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 61+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-15  8:00 [lkp-robot] [x86/asm] 51bad67ffb: int3:#[##] kernel test robot
2018-05-15  8:00 ` kernel test robot
2018-05-15 21:07 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 21:07   ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 21:25   ` Anvin, H Peter
2018-05-15 21:43     ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 21:43       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 22:22       ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-15 22:22         ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-15 22:26         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-05-15 22:26           ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-05-15 22:28         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 22:28           ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 22:43           ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-15 22:43             ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-15 22:52             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 22:52               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 23:05               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 23:05                 ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-16  3:30                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-16  3:30                   ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-17 13:49                   ` [PATCH] objtool: Detect assembly code falling through to INT3 padding Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-17 13:49                     ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-17 14:01                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-17 14:01                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-18  7:24                       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18  7:24                         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18  7:18                     ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18  7:18                       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18  7:27                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2018-05-18 16:06                         ` Borislav Petkov
2018-05-18 16:06                           ` Borislav Petkov
2018-05-18  7:27                       ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18  7:27                         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18 17:51                       ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-18 17:51                         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-19  8:18                         ` hpa
2018-05-19  7:00                 ` "interesting" entry in hibernation code was Re: [lkp-robot] [x86/asm] 51bad67ffb: int3:#[##] Pavel Machek
2018-05-19  7:00                   ` Pavel Machek
2018-05-19  8:35                   ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-05-19  8:35                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2018-05-18  7:15               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18  7:15                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-15 22:25       ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-05-15 22:25         ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-05-15 22:29         ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-15 22:29           ` Andy Lutomirski
2018-05-15 22:27       ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 22:27         ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 22:50         ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 22:50           ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 22:58           ` [PATCH v2] x86/asm: Pad assembly functions with INT3 instructions Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 22:58             ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-15 23:28             ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-15 23:28               ` Linus Torvalds
2018-05-18  7:36             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18  7:36               ` Ingo Molnar
2018-05-18 13:02               ` Josh Poimboeuf [this message]
2018-05-18 13:02                 ` Josh Poimboeuf
2018-05-18 17:34                 ` Alexey Dobriyan
2018-05-18 17:34                   ` Alexey Dobriyan

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