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From: Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>
To: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>
Cc: "Gustavo A. R. Silva" <gustavo@embeddedor.com>,
	Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Alexei Starovoitov <ast@kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] kernel: sys: fix potential Spectre v1
Date: Wed, 23 May 2018 18:27:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180523162741.GU12198@hirez.programming.kicks-ass.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180523150737.ycuulapggtu3hpc3@lakrids.cambridge.arm.com>

On Wed, May 23, 2018 at 04:07:37PM +0100, Mark Rutland wrote:
> I think that either way, we have a potential problem if the compiler
> generates a branch dependent on the result of validate_index_nospec().
> 
> In that case, we could end up with codegen approximating:
> 
> 	bool safe = false;
> 
> 	if (idx < bound) {
> 		idx = array_index_nospec(idx, bound);
> 		safe = true;
> 	}
> 
> 	// this branch can be mispredicted
> 	if (safe) {
> 		foo = array[idx];
> 	}
> 
> ... and thus we lose the nospec protection.

I was assuming the compiler would not do that, that's pretty stupid
code-gen. But you're right in calling that out, because I think it's
entirely in it's right to do that :/

> I also suspect that compiler transformations mean that this might
> already be the case for patterns like:
> 
> 	if (idx < bound)  {
> 		safe_idx = array_index_nospec(idx, bound)];
> 		...
> 		foo = array[safe_idx];
> 	}
> 
> ... if the compiler can transform that to something like:
> 
> 	if (idx < bound) {
> 		idx = array_index_nospec(idx, bound);
> 	}
> 
> 	// can be mispredicted
> 	if (idx < bound) {
> 		foo = array[idx];
> 	}
> 
> ... which I think a compiler might be capable of, depending on the rest
> of the function body (e.g. if there's a common portion shared with the
> else case).
> 
> I'll see if I can trigger that in a test case. :/

*groan*...

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-23 16:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-15  3:00 [PATCH] kernel: sys: fix potential Spectre v1 Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-15 22:08 ` Andrew Morton
2018-05-15 22:29   ` Thomas Gleixner
2018-05-15 22:57     ` Dan Williams
2018-05-18 19:04       ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-18 19:21         ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-18 20:38           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-18 20:44             ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-18 21:27               ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-18 21:45                 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-18 22:01                   ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-18 22:08                     ` Dan Williams
2018-05-18 22:11                       ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-21  0:50               ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-21  2:00                 ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-22 20:50                   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-23  5:03                     ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-23  5:15                       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-23  5:22                         ` Gustavo A. R. Silva
2018-05-23  9:08                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-23 13:55                         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-23 15:07                         ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-23 15:57                           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-23 16:27                           ` Peter Zijlstra [this message]
2018-05-23 16:31                           ` Mark Rutland
2018-05-25 18:11                             ` Gustavo A. R. Silva

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