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From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	<linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>, <linux-mm@kvack.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
Subject: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 13:43:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180524114341.1101-1-mhocko@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180424183536.GF30619@thunk.org>

From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out
that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are
people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.

Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
Requested-by: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
---

Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the
mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave
which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar
rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch
please?

[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20180424183536.GF30619@thunk.org
 .../core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst          | 55 +++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst

diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst b/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..e8b2678e959b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,55 @@
+=================================
+GFP masks used from FS/IO context
+=================================
+
+:Date: Mapy, 2018
+:Author: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
+
+Introduction
+============
+
+Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when
+allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct
+memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on
+already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the
+transaction context).
+
+The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS
+resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in
+the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can be
+used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to
+abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a
+deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use
+of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory
+reclaim issues.
+
+New API
+========
+
+Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context
+``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``,
+``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical
+section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation
+from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given
+mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.
+
+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the
+layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and
+the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that
+ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier
+maintenance.
+
+What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
+==============================
+
+vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded
+GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial
+to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is
+almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be
+achieved by the scope api.
+
+In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts
+and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without
+any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are
+layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc``
+by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
-- 
2.17.0

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
To: Jonathan Corbet <corbet@lwn.net>
Cc: LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>,
	"Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>,
	David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
Subject: [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs
Date: Thu, 24 May 2018 13:43:41 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180524114341.1101-1-mhocko@kernel.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180424183536.GF30619@thunk.org>

From: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>

Although the api is documented in the source code Ted has pointed out
that there is no mention in the core-api Documentation and there are
people looking there to find answers how to use a specific API.

Cc: "Darrick J. Wong" <darrick.wong@oracle.com>
Cc: David Sterba <dsterba@suse.cz>
Requested-by: "Theodore Y. Ts'o" <tytso@mit.edu>
Signed-off-by: Michal Hocko <mhocko@suse.com>
---

Hi Johnatan,
Ted has proposed this at LSFMM and then we discussed that briefly on the
mailing list [1]. I received some useful feedback from Darrick and Dave
which has been (hopefully) integrated. Then the thing fall off my radar
rediscovering it now when doing some cleanup. Could you take the patch
please?

[1] http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20180424183536.GF30619@thunk.org
 .../core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst          | 55 +++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 55 insertions(+)
 create mode 100644 Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst

diff --git a/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst b/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
new file mode 100644
index 000000000000..e8b2678e959b
--- /dev/null
+++ b/Documentation/core-api/gfp_mask-from-fs-io.rst
@@ -0,0 +1,55 @@
+=================================
+GFP masks used from FS/IO context
+=================================
+
+:Date: Mapy, 2018
+:Author: Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>
+
+Introduction
+============
+
+Code paths in the filesystem and IO stacks must be careful when
+allocating memory to prevent recursion deadlocks caused by direct
+memory reclaim calling back into the FS or IO paths and blocking on
+already held resources (e.g. locks - most commonly those used for the
+transaction context).
+
+The traditional way to avoid this deadlock problem is to clear __GFP_FS
+resp. __GFP_IO (note the later implies clearing the first as well) in
+the gfp mask when calling an allocator. GFP_NOFS resp. GFP_NOIO can be
+used as shortcut. It turned out though that above approach has led to
+abuses when the restricted gfp mask is used "just in case" without a
+deeper consideration which leads to problems because an excessive use
+of GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO can lead to memory over-reclaim or other memory
+reclaim issues.
+
+New API
+========
+
+Since 4.12 we do have a generic scope API for both NOFS and NOIO context
+``memalloc_nofs_save``, ``memalloc_nofs_restore`` resp. ``memalloc_noio_save``,
+``memalloc_noio_restore`` which allow to mark a scope to be a critical
+section from the memory reclaim recursion into FS/IO POV. Any allocation
+from that scope will inherently drop __GFP_FS resp. __GFP_IO from the given
+mask so no memory allocation can recurse back in the FS/IO.
+
+FS/IO code then simply calls the appropriate save function right at the
+layer where a lock taken from the reclaim context (e.g. shrinker) and
+the corresponding restore function when the lock is released. All that
+ideally along with an explanation what is the reclaim context for easier
+maintenance.
+
+What about __vmalloc(GFP_NOFS)
+==============================
+
+vmalloc doesn't support GFP_NOFS semantic because there are hardcoded
+GFP_KERNEL allocations deep inside the allocator which are quite non-trivial
+to fix up. That means that calling ``vmalloc`` with GFP_NOFS/GFP_NOIO is
+almost always a bug. The good news is that the NOFS/NOIO semantic can be
+achieved by the scope api.
+
+In the ideal world, upper layers should already mark dangerous contexts
+and so no special care is required and vmalloc should be called without
+any problems. Sometimes if the context is not really clear or there are
+layering violations then the recommended way around that is to wrap ``vmalloc``
+by the scope API with a comment explaining the problem.
-- 
2.17.0

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-24 11:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 127+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-24 16:27 vmalloc with GFP_NOFS Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 16:27 ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 16:27 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 16:27 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 16:46 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 16:46   ` [Cluster-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 16:46   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 16:55   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 16:55     ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 16:55     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 17:05     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 17:05       ` [Cluster-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 17:05       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 18:35 ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-24 18:35   ` [Cluster-devel] " Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-24 18:35   ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-04-24 19:25   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:25     ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:25     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 13:42     ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 13:42       ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 13:42       ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 14:13       ` David Sterba
2018-05-09 14:13         ` [Cluster-devel] " David Sterba
2018-05-09 14:13         ` David Sterba
2018-05-09 15:13       ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-09 15:13         ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-09 15:13         ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-09 16:24         ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-09 16:24           ` [Cluster-devel] " Mike Rapoport
2018-05-09 16:24           ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-09 21:06           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 21:06             ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 21:06             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 21:04         ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 21:04           ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 21:04           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-09 22:02           ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-09 22:02             ` [Cluster-devel] " Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-09 22:02             ` Darrick J. Wong
2018-05-10  5:58             ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-10  5:58               ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-10  5:58               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-10  7:18               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-10  7:18                 ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-10  7:18                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 11:43   ` Michal Hocko [this message]
2018-05-24 11:43     ` [PATCH] doc: document scope NOFS, NOIO APIs Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 14:33     ` Shakeel Butt
2018-05-24 14:47       ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 16:37     ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-25  7:52       ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28  7:21         ` Nikolay Borisov
2018-05-29  8:22           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 11:32         ` Vlastimil Babka
2018-05-24 20:52     ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-24 20:52       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-25  8:11       ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-24 22:17     ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-24 23:25       ` Theodore Y. Ts'o
2018-05-25  8:16       ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-27 12:47         ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-28  9:21           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 16:10             ` Randy Dunlap
2018-05-29  8:21               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-27 23:48         ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-28  9:19           ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-28 22:32             ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-29  8:18               ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29  8:26     ` [PATCH v2] " Michal Hocko
2018-05-29  8:26       ` Michal Hocko
2018-05-29 10:22       ` Dave Chinner
2018-05-29 11:50       ` Mike Rapoport
2018-05-29 11:51       ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-29 11:51         ` Jonathan Corbet
2018-05-29 12:37         ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:49   ` vmalloc with GFP_NOFS Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:49     ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:49     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:03 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:03   ` [Cluster-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:03   ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:28   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:28     ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:28     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 22:18     ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 22:18       ` [Cluster-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 22:18       ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 23:09       ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:09         ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:09         ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:17         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 23:17           ` [Cluster-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 23:17           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-24 23:25           ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:25             ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 23:25             ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 12:43             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 12:43               ` [Cluster-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 12:43               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 14:45               ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 14:45                 ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 14:45                 ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 15:25                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 15:25                   ` [Cluster-devel] " Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 15:25                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-04-25 16:56                   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 16:56                     ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-25 16:56                     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:47   ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:47     ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:47     ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 19:05 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:05   ` [Cluster-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:05   ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:10 ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:10   ` [Cluster-devel] " Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:10   ` Richard Weinberger
2018-04-24 19:26 ` Steven Whitehouse
2018-04-24 19:26   ` [Cluster-devel] " Steven Whitehouse
2018-04-24 19:26   ` Steven Whitehouse
2018-04-24 20:09   ` Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:09     ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-04-24 20:09     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:50     ` Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:50       ` [Cluster-devel] " Michal Hocko
2018-07-17 12:50       ` Michal Hocko

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