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From: Johannes Thumshirn <jthumshirn@suse.de>
To: Christoph Hellwig <hch@lst.de>
Cc: Keith Busch <keith.busch@intel.com>,
	Sagi Grimberg <sagi@grimberg.me>, Hannes Reinecke <hare@suse.de>,
	Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>,
	Laurence Oberman <loberman@redhat.com>,
	Ewan Milne <emilne@redhat.com>,
	James Smart <james.smart@broadcom.com>,
	Linux Kernel Mailinglist <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux NVMe Mailinglist <linux-nvme@lists.infradead.org>,
	"Martin K . Petersen" <martin.petersen@oracle.com>,
	Martin George <marting@netapp.com>,
	John Meneghini <John.Meneghini@netapp.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 16:22:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180525142217.zedv7hz6ov6s45qk@linux-x5ow.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180525130535.GA24239@lst.de>

On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 03:05:35PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2018 at 02:53:19PM +0200, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This patch series aims to provide a more fine grained control over
> > nvme's native multipathing, by allowing it to be switched on and off
> > on a per-subsystem basis instead of a big global switch.
> 
> No.  The only reason we even allowed to turn multipathing off is
> because you complained about installer issues.  The path forward
> clearly is native multipathing and there will be no additional support
> for the use cases of not using it.

First of all, it wasn't my idea and I'm just doing my job here, as I
got this task assigned at LSF and tried to do my best here.

Personally I _do_ agree with you and do not want to use dm-mpath in
nvme either (mainly because I don't really know the code and don't
want to learn yet another subsystem).

But Mike's and Hannes' arguments where reasonable as well, we do not
know if there are any existing setups we might break leading to
support calls, which we have to deal with. Personally I don't believe
there are lot's of existing nvme multipath setups out there, but who
am I to judge.

So can we find a middle ground to this? Or we'll have the
all-or-nothing situation we have in scsi-mq now again. How about
tieing the switch to a config option which is off per default?

Byte,
	Johannes
-- 
Johannes Thumshirn                                          Storage
jthumshirn@suse.de                                +49 911 74053 689
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg
GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton
HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg)
Key fingerprint = EC38 9CAB C2C4 F25D 8600 D0D0 0393 969D 2D76 0850

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From: jthumshirn@suse.de (Johannes Thumshirn)
Subject: [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing
Date: Fri, 25 May 2018 16:22:17 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180525142217.zedv7hz6ov6s45qk@linux-x5ow.site> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180525130535.GA24239@lst.de>

On Fri, May 25, 2018@03:05:35PM +0200, Christoph Hellwig wrote:
> On Fri, May 25, 2018@02:53:19PM +0200, Johannes Thumshirn wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > This patch series aims to provide a more fine grained control over
> > nvme's native multipathing, by allowing it to be switched on and off
> > on a per-subsystem basis instead of a big global switch.
> 
> No.  The only reason we even allowed to turn multipathing off is
> because you complained about installer issues.  The path forward
> clearly is native multipathing and there will be no additional support
> for the use cases of not using it.

First of all, it wasn't my idea and I'm just doing my job here, as I
got this task assigned at LSF and tried to do my best here.

Personally I _do_ agree with you and do not want to use dm-mpath in
nvme either (mainly because I don't really know the code and don't
want to learn yet another subsystem).

But Mike's and Hannes' arguments where reasonable as well, we do not
know if there are any existing setups we might break leading to
support calls, which we have to deal with. Personally I don't believe
there are lot's of existing nvme multipath setups out there, but who
am I to judge.

So can we find a middle ground to this? Or we'll have the
all-or-nothing situation we have in scsi-mq now again. How about
tieing the switch to a config option which is off per default?

Byte,
	Johannes
-- 
Johannes Thumshirn                                          Storage
jthumshirn at suse.de                                +49 911 74053 689
SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 N?rnberg
GF: Felix Imend?rffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton
HRB 21284 (AG N?rnberg)
Key fingerprint = EC38 9CAB C2C4 F25D 8600 D0D0 0393 969D 2D76 0850

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-05-25 14:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 104+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-25 12:53 [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53 ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53 ` [PATCH 1/3] nvme: provide a way to disable nvme mpath per subsystem Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 13:47   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-25 13:47     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31  8:17   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-31  8:17     ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-25 12:53 ` [PATCH 2/3] nvme multipath: added SUBSYS_ATTR_RW Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53 ` [PATCH 3/3] nvme multipath: add dev_attr_mpath_personality Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 12:53   ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 13:05 ` [PATCH 0/3] Provide more fine grained control over multipathing Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 13:05   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 13:58   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-25 13:58     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-25 14:12     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 14:12       ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 14:50       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-25 14:50         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29  1:19         ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-05-29  1:19           ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-05-29  3:02           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29  3:02             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29  7:18             ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-05-29  7:18               ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-05-29  7:22             ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29  7:22               ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-29  8:09               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29  8:09                 ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-29  9:54                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29  9:54                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29 23:27                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-29 23:27                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 19:05                   ` Jens Axboe
2018-05-30 19:05                     ` Jens Axboe
2018-05-30 19:59                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 19:59                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04  6:19                     ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-06-04  6:19                       ` Hannes Reinecke
2018-06-04  7:18                       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-06-04  7:18                         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-06-04 12:59                         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-04 12:59                           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-04 13:27                           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 13:27                             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31  2:42               ` Ming Lei
2018-05-31  2:42                 ` Ming Lei
2018-05-30 21:20     ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-30 21:20       ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-30 22:02       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 22:02         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31  8:37         ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-31  8:37           ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-31 12:37           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 12:37             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 16:34             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-31 16:34               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-01  4:11               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01  4:11                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 16:36           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-31 16:36             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-31 16:33         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-31 16:33           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-31 18:17           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 18:17             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01  2:40             ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-06-01  2:40               ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-06-01  4:24               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01  4:24                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 14:09                 ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-06-01 14:09                   ` Martin K. Petersen
2018-06-01 15:21                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-01 15:21                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-03 11:00                 ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-03 11:00                   ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-03 16:06                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-03 16:06                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 11:46                     ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-04 11:46                       ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-04 12:48                       ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-06-04 12:48                         ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-30 22:44       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 22:44         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31  8:51         ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-31  8:51           ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-05-31 12:41           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 12:41             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-04 21:58       ` Roland Dreier
2018-06-04 21:58         ` Roland Dreier
2018-06-05  4:42         ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-05  4:42           ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-05 22:57           ` Roland Dreier
2018-06-05 22:57             ` Roland Dreier
2018-06-06  9:51             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-06  9:51               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-06  9:32           ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-06  9:32             ` Sagi Grimberg
2018-06-06  9:50             ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-06-06  9:50               ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 14:22   ` Johannes Thumshirn [this message]
2018-05-25 14:22     ` Johannes Thumshirn
2018-05-25 14:30     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-25 14:30       ` Christoph Hellwig

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