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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer@redhat.com>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com>
Cc: device-mapper development <dm-devel@redhat.com>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/4] dm-writecache: use new API for flushing
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 09:16:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180530131623.GB2106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805300903220.1090@file01.intranet.prod.int.rdu2.redhat.com>

On Wed, May 30 2018 at  9:07am -0400,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 28 May 2018, Dan Williams wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka@redhat.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I measured it (with nvme backing store) and late cache flushing has 12%
> > > better performance than eager flushing with memcpy_flushcache().
> > 
> > I assume what you're seeing is ARM64 over-flushing the amount of dirty
> > data so it becomes more efficient to do an amortized flush at the end?
> > However, that effectively makes memcpy_flushcache() unusable in the
> > way it can be used on x86. You claimed that ARM does not support
> > non-temporal stores, but it does, see the STNP instruction. I do not
> > want to see arch specific optimizations in drivers, so either
> > write-through mappings is a potential answer to remove the need to
> > explicitly manage flushing, or just implement STNP hacks in
> > memcpy_flushcache() like you did with MOVNT on x86.
> > 
> > > 131836 4k iops - vs - 117016.
> > 
> > To be clear this is memcpy_flushcache() vs memcpy + flush?
> 
> I found out what caused the difference. I used dax_flush on the version of 
> dm-writecache that I had on the ARM machine (with the kernel 4.14, because 
> it is the last version where dax on ramdisk works) - and I thought that 
> dax_flush flushes the cache, but it doesn't.
> 
> When I replaced dax_flush with arch_wb_cache_pmem, the performance 
> difference between early flushing and late flushing disappeared.
> 
> So I think we can remove this per-architecture switch from dm-writecache.

That is really great news, can you submit an incremental patch that
layers ontop of the linux-dm.git 'dm-4.18' branch?

Thanks,
Mike
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From: Mike Snitzer <snitzer-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
Cc: device-mapper development
	<dm-devel-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>,
	linux-nvdimm
	<linux-nvdimm-hn68Rpc1hR1g9hUCZPvPmw@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: [patch 4/4] dm-writecache: use new API for flushing
Date: Wed, 30 May 2018 09:16:23 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180530131623.GB2106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LRH.2.02.1805300903220.1090-Hpncn10jQN4oNljnaZt3ZvA+iT7yCHsGwRM8/txMwJMAicBL8TP8PQ@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, May 30 2018 at  9:07am -0400,
Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

> 
> 
> On Mon, 28 May 2018, Dan Williams wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, May 28, 2018 at 6:32 AM, Mikulas Patocka <mpatocka-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > I measured it (with nvme backing store) and late cache flushing has 12%
> > > better performance than eager flushing with memcpy_flushcache().
> > 
> > I assume what you're seeing is ARM64 over-flushing the amount of dirty
> > data so it becomes more efficient to do an amortized flush at the end?
> > However, that effectively makes memcpy_flushcache() unusable in the
> > way it can be used on x86. You claimed that ARM does not support
> > non-temporal stores, but it does, see the STNP instruction. I do not
> > want to see arch specific optimizations in drivers, so either
> > write-through mappings is a potential answer to remove the need to
> > explicitly manage flushing, or just implement STNP hacks in
> > memcpy_flushcache() like you did with MOVNT on x86.
> > 
> > > 131836 4k iops - vs - 117016.
> > 
> > To be clear this is memcpy_flushcache() vs memcpy + flush?
> 
> I found out what caused the difference. I used dax_flush on the version of 
> dm-writecache that I had on the ARM machine (with the kernel 4.14, because 
> it is the last version where dax on ramdisk works) - and I thought that 
> dax_flush flushes the cache, but it doesn't.
> 
> When I replaced dax_flush with arch_wb_cache_pmem, the performance 
> difference between early flushing and late flushing disappeared.
> 
> So I think we can remove this per-architecture switch from dm-writecache.

That is really great news, can you submit an incremental patch that
layers ontop of the linux-dm.git 'dm-4.18' branch?

Thanks,
Mike

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-30 13:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 108+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-19  5:25 [patch 0/4] dm-writecache patches Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 1/4] x86: optimize memcpy_flushcache Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-19 14:21   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-24 18:20     ` [PATCH v2] " Mike Snitzer
2018-06-18 13:23       ` [PATCH v2 RESEND] " Mike Snitzer
2018-06-18 13:23         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-21 14:31         ` Ingo Molnar
2018-06-22  1:19           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22  1:19             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-22  1:30             ` Ingo Molnar
2018-08-08 21:22               ` [PATCH v3 " Mikulas Patocka
2018-09-10 13:18                 ` Ingo Molnar
2018-09-11  6:22                 ` [tip:x86/asm] x86/asm: Optimize memcpy_flushcache() tip-bot for Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 2/4] swait: export the symbols __prepare_to_swait and __finish_swait Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-22  6:34   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-22 18:52     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-23  9:21       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-23 15:10         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-23 18:10           ` [PATCH v2] swait: export " Mike Snitzer
2018-05-23 20:38             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-23 21:51               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-24 14:10             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-05-24 15:09               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 3/4] dm-writecache Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-22  6:37   ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-19  5:25 ` [patch 4/4] dm-writecache: use new API for flushing Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-22  6:39   ` [dm-devel] " Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-22  6:39     ` Christoph Hellwig
2018-05-22 18:41     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-22 18:41       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-22 19:00       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-22 19:00         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-22 19:19         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-22 19:19           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-22 19:27           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-22 19:27             ` Dan Williams
2018-05-22 20:52             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-22 20:52               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-22 22:53               ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2018-05-22 22:53                 ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-23 20:57                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-23 20:57                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-28 13:52             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-28 13:52               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-28 17:41               ` Dan Williams
2018-05-28 17:41                 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-30 13:42                 ` [dm-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2018-05-30 13:42                   ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-30 13:51                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:51                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:52                   ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-30 13:52                     ` Jeff Moyer
2018-05-24  8:15         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-24  8:15           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-25  3:12   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-25  6:17     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-25 12:51       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-25 12:51         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-25 15:57         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-25 15:57           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-26  7:02           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-26  7:02             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-26 15:26             ` Dan Williams
2018-05-26 15:26               ` Dan Williams
2018-05-28 13:32               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-28 13:32                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-28 18:14                 ` Dan Williams
2018-05-28 18:14                   ` Dan Williams
2018-05-30 13:07                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:07                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:16                     ` Mike Snitzer [this message]
2018-05-30 13:16                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 13:21                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:21                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:26                         ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 13:26                           ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 13:33                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:33                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 13:54                             ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 13:54                               ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 14:09                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 14:09                                 ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 14:21                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 14:21                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 14:46                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-30 14:46                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31  3:42                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31  3:42                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-06-03 15:03                                       ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-06-03 15:03                                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31  3:39                                 ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31  3:39                                   ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31  8:16                                   ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31  8:16                                     ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31 12:09                                     ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-31 12:09                                       ` Mike Snitzer
2018-05-30 15:58                     ` Dan Williams
2018-05-30 15:58                       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-30 22:39                       ` Dan Williams
2018-05-30 22:39                         ` Dan Williams
2018-05-31  8:19                         ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31  8:19                           ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31 14:51                           ` Dan Williams
2018-05-31 14:51                             ` Dan Williams
2018-05-31 15:31                             ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31 15:31                               ` Mikulas Patocka
2018-05-31 16:39                               ` Dan Williams
2018-05-31 16:39                                 ` Dan Williams

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