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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
To: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/2] kvm "fake DAX" device flushing
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:24:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180601142410.5c986f13@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180425112415.12327-1-pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:54:12 +0530
Pankaj Gupta <pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org> wrote:

[...]
> - Qemu virtio-pmem device
>   It exposes a persistent memory range to KVM guest which 
>   at host side is file backed memory and works as persistent 
>   memory device. In addition to this it provides virtio 
>   device handling of flushing interface. KVM guest performs
>   Qemu side asynchronous sync using this interface.
a random high level question,
Have you considered using a separate (from memory itself)
virtio device as controller for exposing some memory, async flushing.
And then just slaving pc-dimm devices to it with notification/ACPI
code suppressed so that guest won't touch them?

That way it might be more scale-able, you consume only 1 PCI slot
for controller vs multiple for virtio-pmem devices.


> Changes from previous RFC[1]:
> 
> - Reuse existing 'pmem' code for registering persistent 
>   memory and other operations instead of creating an entirely 
>   new block driver.
> - Use VIRTIO driver to register memory information with 
>   nvdimm_bus and create region_type accordingly. 
> - Call VIRTIO flush from existing pmem driver.
> 
> Details of project idea for 'fake DAX' flushing interface is 
> shared [2] & [3].
> 
> Pankaj Gupta (2):
>    Add virtio-pmem guest driver
>    pmem: device flush over VIRTIO
> 
> [1] https://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=150782346802290&w=2
> [2] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg149761.html
> [3] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg153095.html  
> 
>  drivers/nvdimm/region_devs.c     |    7 ++
>  drivers/virtio/Kconfig           |   12 +++
>  drivers/virtio/Makefile          |    1 
>  drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c     |  118 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  include/linux/libnvdimm.h        |    4 +
>  include/uapi/linux/virtio_ids.h  |    1 
>  include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h |   58 +++++++++++++++++++
>  7 files changed, 201 insertions(+)
> 

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From: Igor Mammedov <imammedo@redhat.com>
To: Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, linux-nvdimm@ml01.01.org,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, kwolf@redhat.com, haozhong.zhang@intel.com,
	jack@suse.cz, xiaoguangrong.eric@gmail.com, riel@surriel.com,
	niteshnarayanlal@hotmail.com, david@redhat.com,
	ross.zwisler@intel.com, lcapitulino@redhat.com,
	hch@infradead.org, mst@redhat.com, stefanha@redhat.com,
	marcel@redhat.com, pbonzini@redhat.com, dan.j.williams@intel.com,
	nilal@redhat.com
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/2] kvm "fake DAX" device flushing
Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2018 14:24:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180601142410.5c986f13@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180425112415.12327-1-pagupta@redhat.com>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2018 16:54:12 +0530
Pankaj Gupta <pagupta@redhat.com> wrote:

[...]
> - Qemu virtio-pmem device
>   It exposes a persistent memory range to KVM guest which 
>   at host side is file backed memory and works as persistent 
>   memory device. In addition to this it provides virtio 
>   device handling of flushing interface. KVM guest performs
>   Qemu side asynchronous sync using this interface.
a random high level question,
Have you considered using a separate (from memory itself)
virtio device as controller for exposing some memory, async flushing.
And then just slaving pc-dimm devices to it with notification/ACPI
code suppressed so that guest won't touch them?

That way it might be more scale-able, you consume only 1 PCI slot
for controller vs multiple for virtio-pmem devices.


> Changes from previous RFC[1]:
> 
> - Reuse existing 'pmem' code for registering persistent 
>   memory and other operations instead of creating an entirely 
>   new block driver.
> - Use VIRTIO driver to register memory information with 
>   nvdimm_bus and create region_type accordingly. 
> - Call VIRTIO flush from existing pmem driver.
> 
> Details of project idea for 'fake DAX' flushing interface is 
> shared [2] & [3].
> 
> Pankaj Gupta (2):
>    Add virtio-pmem guest driver
>    pmem: device flush over VIRTIO
> 
> [1] https://marc.info/?l=linux-mm&m=150782346802290&w=2
> [2] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg149761.html
> [3] https://www.spinics.net/lists/kvm/msg153095.html  
> 
>  drivers/nvdimm/region_devs.c     |    7 ++
>  drivers/virtio/Kconfig           |   12 +++
>  drivers/virtio/Makefile          |    1 
>  drivers/virtio/virtio_pmem.c     |  118 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  include/linux/libnvdimm.h        |    4 +
>  include/uapi/linux/virtio_ids.h  |    1 
>  include/uapi/linux/virtio_pmem.h |   58 +++++++++++++++++++
>  7 files changed, 201 insertions(+)
> 

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-01 12:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-25 11:24 [RFC v2 0/2] kvm "fake DAX" device flushing Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24 ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found] ` <20180425112415.12327-1-pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 11:24   ` [RFC v2 1/2] virtio: add pmem driver Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24     ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found]     ` <20180425112415.12327-2-pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 14:21       ` Dan Williams
2018-04-25 14:21         ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2018-04-25 14:21         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <CAPcyv4hvrB08XPTbVK0xT2_1Xmaid=-v3OMxJVDTNwQucsOHLA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 14:43           ` Dan Williams
2018-04-25 14:43             ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2018-04-25 14:43             ` Dan Williams
     [not found]             ` <CAPcyv4hiowWozV527sQA_e4fdgCYbD6xfG==vepAqu0hxQEQcw-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 12:27               ` Jeff Moyer
2018-04-26 12:27                 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jeff Moyer
2018-04-26 12:27                 ` Jeff Moyer
2018-04-26 12:27                 ` Jeff Moyer
     [not found]                 ` <x49o9i6885e.fsf-RRHT56Q3PSP4kTEheFKJxxDDeQx5vsVwAInAS/Ez/D0@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 17:15                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 17:15                     ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found]                     ` <1499190564.23017177.1524762938762.JavaMail.zimbra-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 17:24                       ` Jeff Moyer
2018-04-26 17:24                         ` Jeff Moyer
2018-04-25 14:52       ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-25 14:52         ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-04-25 14:52         ` Michael S. Tsirkin
     [not found]         ` <20180425174705-mutt-send-email-mst-DgEjT+Ai2ygdnm+yROfE0A@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 15:11           ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 15:11             ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 13:12     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]       ` <20180426131236.GA30991-lxVrvc10SDRcolVlb+j0YCZi+YwRKgec@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 15:44         ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 15:44           ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-27 13:31           ` Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]             ` <20180427133146.GB11150-lxVrvc10SDRcolVlb+j0YCZi+YwRKgec@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-28 10:48               ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-28 10:48                 ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24   ` [RFC v2 2/2] pmem: device flush over VIRTIO Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24     ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found]     ` <20180425112415.12327-3-pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 14:23       ` Dan Williams
2018-04-25 14:23         ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2018-04-25 14:23         ` Dan Williams
     [not found]         ` <CAPcyv4gpZzKfE7jY1peYOVd6sVhNz7jce1s_xNH_2Lt8AjRK-Q-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 14:47           ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 14:47             ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 14:47             ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 13:15     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-26 13:15       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]       ` <20180426131517.GB30991-lxVrvc10SDRcolVlb+j0YCZi+YwRKgec@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 16:40         ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 16:40           ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 16:40           ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found]           ` <58645254.23011245.1524760853269.JavaMail.zimbra-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 16:57             ` Dan Williams
2018-04-26 16:57               ` [Qemu-devel] " Dan Williams
2018-04-26 16:57               ` Dan Williams
     [not found]               ` <CAPcyv4jv-hJNKJxak98T7aCnWztVEDTE8o=8fjvOrVmrTfyjdA-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 17:13                 ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 17:13                   ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 17:13                   ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24   ` [RFC v2] qemu: Add virtio pmem device Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24     ` [Qemu-devel] " Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:24     ` Pankaj Gupta
     [not found]     ` <20180425112415.12327-4-pagupta-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 11:35       ` [Qemu-devel] " no-reply-isE1Te71pDtAfugRpC6u6w
2018-04-25 11:35         ` no-reply
2018-04-25 11:35         ` no-reply
2018-04-25 11:58         ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:58           ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 14:23           ` Eric Blake
2018-04-25 14:23             ` Eric Blake
     [not found]             ` <79f72139-0fcb-3d5e-a16c-24f3b5ee1a07-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 14:51               ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 14:51                 ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 11:46     ` no-reply
2018-04-25 11:46       ` no-reply
2018-04-25 11:46       ` no-reply
2018-04-25 14:25     ` Eric Blake
2018-04-25 14:25       ` Eric Blake
     [not found]       ` <25f3e433-cfa6-4a62-ba7f-47aef1119dfc-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-25 14:55         ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-25 14:55           ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 13:24     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-04-26 13:24       ` [Qemu-devel] " Stefan Hajnoczi
     [not found]       ` <20180426132406.GC30991-lxVrvc10SDRcolVlb+j0YCZi+YwRKgec@public.gmane.org>
2018-04-26 16:43         ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-04-26 16:43           ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-06-01 12:24   ` Igor Mammedov [this message]
2018-06-01 12:24     ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC v2 0/2] kvm "fake DAX" device flushing Igor Mammedov
     [not found]     ` <20180601142410.5c986f13-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2018-06-04  5:56       ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-06-04  5:56         ` Pankaj Gupta
2018-06-04  9:55       ` David Hildenbrand
2018-06-04  9:55         ` David Hildenbrand

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