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From: David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au>
To: Greg Kurz <groug@kaod.org>
Cc: Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org>,
	qemu-ppc@nongnu.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] target/ppc: filter out non-zero PCR values when using TCG
Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 11:45:01 +1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180615014501.GI4129@umbus.fritz.box> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180615000020.2a3372a5@bahia.lan>

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On Fri, Jun 15, 2018 at 12:00:20AM +0200, Greg Kurz wrote:
> On Thu, 14 Jun 2018 09:52:55 -1000
> Richard Henderson <richard.henderson@linaro.org> wrote:
> 
> > On 06/12/2018 10:19 PM, Greg Kurz wrote:
> > > I'm confused... I don't see anything related to HTM in TCG. Also we have
> > > the following in cap_htm_apply():
> > > 
> > >     if (tcg_enabled()) {
> > >         error_setg(errp,
> > >                    "No Transactional Memory support in TCG, try cap-htm=off");
> > > 
> > > I'm probably missing something... can you enlighten me ?  
> > 
> > One of the two IBM machines -- and I thought it was ppc not s390x, but the code
> > you quote seems to deny that memory -- has stub support for TM within TCG.
> 
> Oh ? I didn't know and didn't check :)

That is true, there are stub implementations of the TM instructions.

> 
> > To wit, the instructions are recognized and transactions always fail.  Which is
> > not a bad way to test the required fallback paths that rarely fail on hardware.
> >  ;-)
> 
> If TM instructions don't cause an exception, I guess its reasonable to say
> they're supported :)

That argument has come up before, and I disagree.  I don't think it's
reasonable to advertise TM support as available if the instructions
always fail.

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-15  2:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-12 16:27 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] target/ppc: drop empty #if/#endif block Greg Kurz
2018-06-12 16:43 ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-06-12 17:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/3] spapr: fix leak in h_client_architecture_support() Greg Kurz
2018-06-12 20:13   ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-06-12 23:38   ` David Gibson
2018-06-12 17:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/3] target/ppc: filter out non-zero PCR values when using TCG Greg Kurz
2018-06-13  0:45   ` David Gibson
2018-06-13  8:19     ` Greg Kurz
2018-06-13 12:05       ` David Gibson
2018-06-13 14:26         ` Greg Kurz
2018-06-14  1:26           ` David Gibson
2018-06-14 19:52       ` Richard Henderson
2018-06-14 22:00         ` Greg Kurz
2018-06-15  1:45           ` David Gibson [this message]
2018-06-15  3:38             ` Richard Henderson
2018-06-15  3:40               ` David Gibson
2018-06-15  8:11             ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-ppc] " Greg Kurz
2018-06-12 23:38 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/3] target/ppc: drop empty #if/#endif block David Gibson

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