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From: Juri Lelli <juri.lelli@redhat.com>
To: Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>
Cc: Pavan Kondeti <pkondeti@codeaurora.org>,
	peterz@infradead.org, rjw@rjwysocki.net,
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	javi.merino@kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH v3 10/10] arch_topology: Start Energy Aware Scheduling
Date: Tue, 19 Jun 2018 12:31:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180619103108.GD13617@localhost.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20180619102502.GU17720@e108498-lin.cambridge.arm.com>

On 19/06/18 11:25, Quentin Perret wrote:
> On Tuesday 19 Jun 2018 at 12:19:01 (+0200), Juri Lelli wrote:
> > On 19/06/18 11:02, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > > On Tuesday 19 Jun 2018 at 11:47:14 (+0200), Juri Lelli wrote:
> > > > On 19/06/18 10:40, Quentin Perret wrote:
> > > > > Hi Pavan,
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Tuesday 19 Jun 2018 at 14:48:41 (+0530), Pavan Kondeti wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > [...]
> > > > 
> > > > > > There seems to be a sysfs interface exposed by this driver to change cpu_scale.
> > > > > > Should we worry about it? I don't know what is the usecase for changing the
> > > > > > cpu_scale from user space.
> > > > > 
> > > > > This is something I've been wondering as well. TBH, I'm not sure what to
> > > > > do in this case. And I'm not sure to know what is the use-case either.
> > > > > Debugging purpose I assume ?
> > > > > 
> > > > > Juri, did you have a specific use-case for this feature when the
> > > > > arch_topology driver was first introduced ? Or was it just to align
> > > > > with the existing arm/arm64 code ?
> > > > 
> > > > It was requested (IIRC) because DT might have bogus values and not be
> > > > easily modifiable. So, this is another way to get things right for your
> > > > platform at runtime.
> > > 
> > > Right, but that also allows you to set different capacities to CPUs
> > > inside the same freq domain, which isn't supported by the EM framework,
> > > at least for now. So I would prefer to assume that your values in DT must
> > > to be correct to use EAS, and leave the code as-is for now.
> > 
> > It's actually built on the (current) assumption that siblings share
> > capacity [1], so it seems to align with what EM requires.
> > 
> > [1] https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/latest/source/drivers/base/arch_topology.c#L71
> 
> But there is not hard guarantee that the core_sibling mask and the
> frequency domains are aligned :-(
> 
> Hikey 620 is an example where they might be misaligned (I think)

Yep. In this case you'd need to write cpu_capacity twice (for each
cluster). I think.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-19 10:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 80+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-21 14:24 [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 01/10] sched: Relocate arch_scale_cpu_capacity Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 02/10] sched/cpufreq: Factor out utilization to frequency mapping Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 03/10] PM: Introduce an Energy Model management framework Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 13:12   ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-06 14:37     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 15:20       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-06 15:29         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-06 16:26           ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 15:58             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08 13:39             ` Javi Merino
2018-06-08 15:47               ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-09  8:24                 ` Javi Merino
2018-06-06 16:47   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-06 16:59     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 14:44   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 15:19     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 15:55       ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08  8:25         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08  9:36           ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 10:31             ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 12:39           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08 13:11             ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 16:39               ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-06-08 17:02                 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 16:04       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 17:31         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-09  8:13         ` Javi Merino
2018-06-19 11:07   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 12:35     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 11:31   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 12:40     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 11:34   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 12:58     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 13:23       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 13:38         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 14:16           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 14:21             ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 14:30               ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 14:23             ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:24 ` [RFC PATCH v3 04/10] PM / EM: Expose the Energy Model in sysfs Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 12:16   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 13:06     ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 05/10] sched/topology: Reference the Energy Model of CPUs when available Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 14:44   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 16:02     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-07 16:29       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-07 17:26         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 12:26   ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 13:24     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 16:20       ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-19 17:13         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 18:42           ` Peter Zijlstra
2018-06-20  7:58             ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 06/10] sched: Add over-utilization/tipping point indicator Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  7:01   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19 10:26     ` Dietmar Eggemann
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 07/10] sched/fair: Introduce an energy estimation helper function Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 10:30   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-19  9:51   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19  9:53     ` Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 08/10] sched: Lowest energy aware balancing sched_domain level pointer Quentin Perret
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 09/10] sched/fair: Select an energy-efficient CPU on task wake-up Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 10:24   ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 11:19     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-08 11:59       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-08 16:26         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  5:06   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19  7:57     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  8:41       ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-05-21 14:25 ` [RFC PATCH v3 10/10] arch_topology: Start Energy Aware Scheduling Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  9:18   ` Pavan Kondeti
2018-06-19  9:40     ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19  9:47       ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-19 10:02         ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 10:19           ` Juri Lelli
2018-06-19 10:25             ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-19 10:31               ` Juri Lelli [this message]
2018-06-19 10:49                 ` Quentin Perret
2018-06-01  9:29 ` [RFC PATCH v3 00/10] " Quentin Perret

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