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From: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 20:07:33 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180627120733.GD2516@xz-mi> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <8760248odg.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 01:23:07PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Daniel P. Berrangé <berrange@redhat.com> writes:
> 
> > On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 10:41:38AM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> >> Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:
> >> 
> >> > Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com> writes:
> >> >
> >> >> I fooled around a bit, and I think there are a few lose ends.
> >> > [...]
> >> >> Talking to a QMP monitor that supports OOB:
> >> >>
> >> >>     $ socat UNIX:test-qmp READLINE,history=$HOME/.qmp_history,prompt='QMP> '
> >> >>     {"QMP": {"version": {"qemu": {"micro": 50, "minor": 12, "major": 2}, "package": "v2.12.0-1703-gb909799463"}, "capabilities": ["oob"]}}
> >> >>     QMP> { "execute": "qmp_capabilities", "arguments": { "oob": true } }
> >> >>     {"error": {"class": "GenericError", "desc": "Parameter 'oob' is unexpected"}}
> >> >>     QMP> { "execute": "qmp_capabilities", "arguments": { "enable": ["oob"] } }
> >> >>     {"return": {}}
> >> >>     QMP> { "execute": "query-qmp-schema" }
> >> >>     {"error": {"class": "GenericError", "desc": "Out-Of-Band capability requires that every command contains an 'id' field"}}
> >> >>
> >> >> Why does every command require 'id'?
> >> >
> >> > I found one reason: event COMMAND_DROPPED wants it.  Any other reason?
> >> >
> >> > [...]
> >> 
> >> Apropos COMMAND_DROPPED: we send an event rather than an error response
> >> because we may send it out-of-order.  Makes sense.
> >> 
> >> However, broadcasting it to all monitors doesn't make sense.  We could
> >> use a way to send an event to just one monitor.

True.

(Sorry for the late responses; I was on Linuxcon China in the past few
days)

> >
> > Worse than that - broadcasting to all monitors is categorically broken.
> > Different monitors make use the same "id" formatting scheme, so if you
> > broadcast COMMAND_DROPPED to a different monitor you might have clashing
> > "id" and thus incorrectly tell a client its command was dropped when in
> > fact it was processed. You'd have to be fairly unlucky in timing, but
> > it could happen.
> 
> Right.  Must fix bug.

Even more true.

> 
> I'm glad I went over this one more time, and in public!

I had a glance at current qmp-spec, it seems that we don't have any
restriction currently on "we must send events to all the monitors".
Does it mean that we should be free to have per-monitor events
starting from this event?

My current plan is that I can touch up scripts/qapi/events.py and
related stuff to allow QMPEventFuncEmit to take a monitor parameter,
then we pass in NULL when we want to send the event to all monitors.

Would that work?

Thanks,

-- 
Peter Xu

  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-27 12:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-20  7:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] monitor: enable OOB by default Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/7] chardev: comment details for CLOSED event Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/7] monitor: rename *_pop_one to *_pop_any Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 3/7] monitor: flush qmp responses when CLOSED Peter Xu
2018-06-20  8:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  8:38     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-20  9:50       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 4/7] tests: iotests: drop some stderr line Peter Xu
2018-06-20  8:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 5/7] docs: mention shared state protect for OOB Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 6/7] monitor: remove "x-oob", turn oob on by default Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 7/7] Revert "tests: Add parameter to qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake" Peter Xu
2018-06-26 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] (no subject) Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  7:38   ` [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  8:41     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 10:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 11:23         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 12:07           ` Peter Xu [this message]
2018-06-27 12:37             ` Eric Blake
2018-06-28  7:04               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  7:20                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  6:55             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-28 11:43               ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29  8:18               ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 13:13       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 13:28         ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-28 13:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 13:34         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 13:20           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  9:01             ` Peter Xu
2018-07-18 15:08               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-19 13:00                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27  7:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  8:35     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 12:32       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  9:29         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  9:42           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 13:36     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 11:59   ` [Qemu-devel] your mail Peter Xu
2018-06-28  8:31     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-28 11:51       ` Eric Blake
2018-06-28 12:00       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-29  9:57         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-29 15:40           ` Eric Blake
2018-07-02  5:43   ` [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default Markus Armbruster
2018-07-04  5:44     ` Peter Xu
2018-07-04  7:03       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-30 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] " Markus Armbruster

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