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From: "Daniel P. Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
To: Markus Armbruster <armbru@redhat.com>
Cc: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 14:28:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180627132853.GO30628@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87h8lo74oa.fsf@dusky.pond.sub.org>

On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 03:13:57PM +0200, Markus Armbruster wrote:
> Monitor behavior changes even when the client rejects capability "oob".
> 
> Traditionally, the monitor reads, executes and responds to one command
> after the other.  If the client sends in-band commands faster than the
> server can execute them, the kernel will eventually refuse to buffer
> more, and sending blocks or fails with EAGAIN.
> 
> To make OOB possible, we need to read and queue commands as we receive
> them.  If the client sends in-band commands faster than the server can
> execute them, the server will eventually drop commands to limit the
> queue length.  The sever sends event COMMAND_DROPPED then.
> 
> However, we get the new behavior even when the client rejects capability
> "oob".  We get the traditional behavior only when the server doesn't
> offer "oob".
> 
> Is this what we want?

IMHO the key benefit of allowing the client to reject the capability
is to enable backwards compat support. So this behaviour feels wrong.
Rejecting OOB should have same semantics as previous QEMU's without
OOB available, otherwise we now have 3 distinct ways the monitor
operates  (no OOB, OOB rejected, OOB accepted). This can only ever
lead to more bugs due to lack of testing of no OOB vs OOB rejected
scenarios.

Regards,
Daniel
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  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-27 13:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 48+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-20  7:32 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] monitor: enable OOB by default Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 1/7] chardev: comment details for CLOSED event Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 2/7] monitor: rename *_pop_one to *_pop_any Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 3/7] monitor: flush qmp responses when CLOSED Peter Xu
2018-06-20  8:33   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  8:38     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-20  9:50       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 4/7] tests: iotests: drop some stderr line Peter Xu
2018-06-20  8:35   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 5/7] docs: mention shared state protect for OOB Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 6/7] monitor: remove "x-oob", turn oob on by default Peter Xu
2018-06-20  7:32 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 7/7] Revert "tests: Add parameter to qtest_init_without_qmp_handshake" Peter Xu
2018-06-26 17:21 ` [Qemu-devel] (no subject) Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  7:38   ` [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  8:41     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 10:20       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-27 11:23         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 12:07           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 12:37             ` Eric Blake
2018-06-28  7:04               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  7:20                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  6:55             ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-28 11:43               ` Eric Blake
2018-06-29  8:18               ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 13:13       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 13:28         ` Daniel P. Berrangé [this message]
2018-06-28 13:02           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 13:34         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28 13:20           ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  9:01             ` Peter Xu
2018-07-18 15:08               ` Markus Armbruster
2018-07-19 13:00                 ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27  7:40   ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27  8:35     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-27 12:32       ` Peter Xu
2018-06-28  9:29         ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-29  9:42           ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 13:36     ` Peter Xu
2018-06-27 11:59   ` [Qemu-devel] your mail Peter Xu
2018-06-28  8:31     ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-28 11:51       ` Eric Blake
2018-06-28 12:00       ` Daniel P. Berrangé
2018-06-29  9:57         ` Peter Xu
2018-06-29 15:40           ` Eric Blake
2018-07-02  5:43   ` [Qemu-devel] monitor: enable OOB by default Markus Armbruster
2018-07-04  5:44     ` Peter Xu
2018-07-04  7:03       ` Markus Armbruster
2018-06-30 16:26 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v5 0/7] " Markus Armbruster

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