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From: Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com>
To: "Alex Bennée" <alex.bennee@linaro.org>
Cc: Okamoto Takayuki <tokamoto@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Christoffer Dall <cdall@kernel.org>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Marc Zyngier <marc.zyngier@arm.com>,
	Catalin Marinas <catalin.marinas@arm.com>,
	Will Deacon <will.deacon@arm.com>,
	kvmarm@lists.cs.columbia.edu,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC PATCH 05/16] KVM: arm: Add arch init/uninit hooks
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:15:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180709151548.GF9486@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877em88yxf.fsf@linaro.org>

On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 11:02:20AM +0100, Alex Bennée wrote:
> 
> Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> writes:
> 
> > In preparation for adding support for SVE in guests on arm64, hooks
> > for allocating and freeing additional per-vcpu memory are needed.
> >
> > kvm_arch_vcpu_setup() could be used for allocation, but this
> > function is not clearly balanced by un "unsetup" function, making
> 
> Isn't that a double negative there? Surely it would be balanced by a
> kvm_arch_vcpu_unsetup() or possibly better named function.

Yes, but there is no such function, and it wasn't clear what the
semantics of the existing hooks is supposed to be... so I didn't
feel comfortable adding an _unsetup().

I was trying to be minimally invasive while I got things working...

> > it unclear where memory allocated in this function should be freed.
> >
> > To keep things simple, this patch defines backend hooks
> > kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_{,un}unint(), and plumbs them in appropriately.
> 
> Is {,un} a notation for dropping un? This might be why I'm confused. I
> would have written it as kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_[un]init() or even
> kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_[init|uninit].

That should be kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_{,un}init().

Whether this is readily understood by people is another question.
This is the bash brace-expansion syntax which I'm in the habit of
using, partly because it looks nothing like C syntax, thus
"reducing" confusion.

Personally I make heavy use of this in the shell, like

	mv .config{,.old}

etc.  But that's me.  Maybe other people don't.

Too obscure?  I have a number of patches that follow this convention
upstream.

> > The exusting kvm_arch_vcpu_init() function now calls
> 
> /existing/
> 
> > kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_init(), while an explicit kvm_arch_vcpu_uninit()
> > is added which current does nothing except to call
> > kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_uninit().
> 
> OK I'm a little confused by this. It seems to me that KVM already has
> the provision for an init/uninit. What does the extra level on
> indirection buy you that keeping the static inline
> kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_uninit in arm/kvm_host.h and a concrete implementation
> in arm64/kvm/guest.c doesn't?

There isn't an intentional extra level of indirection, but the existing
code feels strangely factored due to the somewhat random use of
prefixes in function names (i.e., kvm_arch_*() is sometimes a hook from
KVM core into virt/kvm/arm/, some a hook from virt/kvm/arm/ into the
arm or arm64 backend, and sometimes a hook from KVM core directly into
the arm or arm64 backend).

So, I wasn't really sure where to put things initially.

This patch was always a bit of a bodge, and the series as posted
doesn't fully make use of it anyway... so I'll need to revisit.

Cheers
---Dave

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Dave.Martin@arm.com (Dave Martin)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC PATCH 05/16] KVM: arm: Add arch init/uninit hooks
Date: Mon, 9 Jul 2018 16:15:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180709151548.GF9486@e103592.cambridge.arm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877em88yxf.fsf@linaro.org>

On Fri, Jul 06, 2018 at 11:02:20AM +0100, Alex Benn?e wrote:
> 
> Dave Martin <Dave.Martin@arm.com> writes:
> 
> > In preparation for adding support for SVE in guests on arm64, hooks
> > for allocating and freeing additional per-vcpu memory are needed.
> >
> > kvm_arch_vcpu_setup() could be used for allocation, but this
> > function is not clearly balanced by un "unsetup" function, making
> 
> Isn't that a double negative there? Surely it would be balanced by a
> kvm_arch_vcpu_unsetup() or possibly better named function.

Yes, but there is no such function, and it wasn't clear what the
semantics of the existing hooks is supposed to be... so I didn't
feel comfortable adding an _unsetup().

I was trying to be minimally invasive while I got things working...

> > it unclear where memory allocated in this function should be freed.
> >
> > To keep things simple, this patch defines backend hooks
> > kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_{,un}unint(), and plumbs them in appropriately.
> 
> Is {,un} a notation for dropping un? This might be why I'm confused. I
> would have written it as kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_[un]init() or even
> kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_[init|uninit].

That should be kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_{,un}init().

Whether this is readily understood by people is another question.
This is the bash brace-expansion syntax which I'm in the habit of
using, partly because it looks nothing like C syntax, thus
"reducing" confusion.

Personally I make heavy use of this in the shell, like

	mv .config{,.old}

etc.  But that's me.  Maybe other people don't.

Too obscure?  I have a number of patches that follow this convention
upstream.

> > The exusting kvm_arch_vcpu_init() function now calls
> 
> /existing/
> 
> > kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_init(), while an explicit kvm_arch_vcpu_uninit()
> > is added which current does nothing except to call
> > kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_uninit().
> 
> OK I'm a little confused by this. It seems to me that KVM already has
> the provision for an init/uninit. What does the extra level on
> indirection buy you that keeping the static inline
> kvm_arm_arch_vcpu_uninit in arm/kvm_host.h and a concrete implementation
> in arm64/kvm/guest.c doesn't?

There isn't an intentional extra level of indirection, but the existing
code feels strangely factored due to the somewhat random use of
prefixes in function names (i.e., kvm_arch_*() is sometimes a hook from
KVM core into virt/kvm/arm/, some a hook from virt/kvm/arm/ into the
arm or arm64 backend, and sometimes a hook from KVM core directly into
the arm or arm64 backend).

So, I wasn't really sure where to put things initially.

This patch was always a bit of a bodge, and the series as posted
doesn't fully make use of it anyway... so I'll need to revisit.

Cheers
---Dave

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-09 15:03 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 178+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-21 14:57 [RFC PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Initial support for SVE guests Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 01/16] arm64: fpsimd: Always set TIF_FOREIGN_FPSTATE on task state flush Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:07   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:07     ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 02/16] KVM: arm64: Delete orphaned declaration for __fpsimd_enabled() Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:08   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:08     ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 03/16] KVM: arm64: Refactor kvm_arm_num_regs() for easier maintenance Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:20   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:20     ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 04/16] KVM: arm64: Add missing #include of <linux/bitmap.h> to kvm_host.h Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:21   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:21     ` Alex Bennée
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 05/16] KVM: arm: Add arch init/uninit hooks Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06 10:02   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06 10:02     ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-09 15:15     ` Dave Martin [this message]
2018-07-09 15:15       ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 06/16] arm64/sve: Determine virtualisation-friendly vector lengths Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06 13:20   ` Marc Zyngier
2018-07-06 13:20     ` Marc Zyngier
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 07/16] arm64/sve: Enable SVE state tracking for non-task contexts Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:58   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 13:58     ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 14:39     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:39       ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 08/16] KVM: arm64: Support dynamically hideable system registers Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:12   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 14:12     ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 14:36     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:36       ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:41       ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 15:41         ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-26 12:53         ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 12:53           ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:20   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 19:20     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  8:33     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-08  8:33       ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 09/16] KVM: arm64: Allow ID registers to by dynamically read-as-zero Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:46   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 15:46     ` Alex Bennée
2018-08-06 13:03   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-06 13:03     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:09     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 11:09       ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:35       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 19:35         ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  9:11         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-08  9:11           ` Dave Martin
2018-08-08  9:58           ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  9:58             ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08 14:03           ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-08 14:03             ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-09 10:19             ` Dave Martin
2018-08-09 10:19               ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 10/16] KVM: arm64: Add a vcpu flag to control SVE visibility for the guest Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 11:08   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 11:08     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:41     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 11:41       ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:43       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 13:43         ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:41         ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:41           ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 15:02   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 15:02     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:48     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 11:48       ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 11/16] KVM: arm64/sve: System register context switch and access support Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 11:11   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 11:11     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:45     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 11:45       ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 12/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Context switch the SVE registers Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 13:13   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 13:13     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 11:50     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 11:50       ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 13:57       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 13:57         ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:12         ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:12           ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:19   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-06 13:19     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:15     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 11:15       ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 19:43       ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 19:43         ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  8:23         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-08  8:23           ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 13/16] KVM: Allow 2048-bit register access via KVM_{GET, SET}_ONE_REG Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:58   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-25 15:58     ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-26 12:58     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 12:58       ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 13:55       ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-26 13:55         ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-27  9:26         ` Dave Martin
2018-07-27  9:26           ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 14/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Add SVE support to register access ioctl interface Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 13:04   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 13:04     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:06     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:06       ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 17:20       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 17:20         ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:10         ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 13:10           ` Dave Martin
2018-08-03 14:57     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-03 14:57       ` Dave Martin
2018-08-03 15:11       ` Andrew Jones
2018-08-03 15:11         ` Andrew Jones
2018-08-03 15:38         ` Dave Martin
2018-08-03 15:38           ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:25   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-06 13:25     ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:17     ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 11:17       ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 15/16] KVM: arm64: Enumerate SVE register indices for KVM_GET_REG_LIST Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 14:12   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 14:12     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 14:50     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 14:50       ` Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57 ` [RFC PATCH 16/16] KVM: arm64/sve: Report and enable SVE API extensions for userspace Dave Martin
2018-06-21 14:57   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 14:59   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 14:59     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 15:27     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 15:27       ` Dave Martin
2018-07-25 16:52       ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-25 16:52         ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:18         ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 13:18           ` Dave Martin
2018-08-06 13:41           ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-06 13:41             ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:23             ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 11:23               ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 20:08               ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 20:08                 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-08  8:30                 ` Dave Martin
2018-08-08  8:30                   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-19 15:24   ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-19 15:24     ` Andrew Jones
2018-07-26 13:23     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-26 13:23       ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  8:22 ` [RFC PATCH 00/16] KVM: arm64: Initial support for SVE guests Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  8:22   ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:05   ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:05     ` Dave Martin
2018-07-06  9:20     ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:20       ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06  9:23       ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06  9:23         ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06 10:11         ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06 10:11           ` Alex Bennée
2018-07-06 10:14           ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-06 10:14             ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-06 13:05 ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-06 13:05   ` Christoffer Dall
2018-08-07 11:18   ` Dave Martin
2018-08-07 11:18     ` Dave Martin

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