From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> To: si-wei liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> Cc: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>, Venu Busireddy <venu.busireddy@oracle.com>, Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, sridhar.samudrala@intel.com, alexander.h.duyck@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] Use of unique identifier for pairing virtio and passthrough devices... Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 04:58:13 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20180710045614-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <9136094e-a510-4201-7c71-d1c49226fa5f@oracle.com> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:11:53PM -0700, si-wei liu wrote: > What do we buy > for using a random address during initial discovery and requiring VF to > complete the handshake? I don't see advantages to using a random address that is then changed either: changing a MAC causes network downtime for most users. > Less network downtime during datapath switching? > Sorry but that's not a key factor at all for our main goal - live migration. Isn't avoiding downtime what makes the migration "live"? If you don't care about it at all just remove the device and migrate without all these tricks. -- MST
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From: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com> To: si-wei liu <si-wei.liu@oracle.com> Cc: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>, Venu Busireddy <venu.busireddy@oracle.com>, Marcel Apfelbaum <marcel@redhat.com>, virtio-dev@lists.oasis-open.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org, sridhar.samudrala@intel.com, alexander.h.duyck@intel.com, netdev@vger.kernel.org Subject: [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] Use of unique identifier for pairing virtio and passthrough devices... Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2018 04:58:13 +0300 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20180710045614-mutt-send-email-mst@kernel.org> (raw) In-Reply-To: <9136094e-a510-4201-7c71-d1c49226fa5f@oracle.com> On Mon, Jul 09, 2018 at 06:11:53PM -0700, si-wei liu wrote: > What do we buy > for using a random address during initial discovery and requiring VF to > complete the handshake? I don't see advantages to using a random address that is then changed either: changing a MAC causes network downtime for most users. > Less network downtime during datapath switching? > Sorry but that's not a key factor at all for our main goal - live migration. Isn't avoiding downtime what makes the migration "live"? If you don't care about it at all just remove the device and migrate without all these tricks. -- MST --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: virtio-dev-unsubscribe@lists.oasis-open.org For additional commands, e-mail: virtio-dev-help@lists.oasis-open.org
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-07-10 1:58 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 106+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2018-06-29 22:19 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] Use of unique identifier for pairing virtio and passthrough devices Venu Busireddy 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Venu Busireddy 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/3] Add "Group Identifier" support to virtio devices Venu Busireddy 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Venu Busireddy 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/3] Add "Group Identifier" support to Red Hat PCI bridge Venu Busireddy 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Venu Busireddy 2018-07-03 3:13 ` [Qemu-devel] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-03 3:13 ` Siwei Liu 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/3] Add "Group Identifier" support to Red Hat PCI Express bridge Venu Busireddy 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Venu Busireddy 2018-07-07 12:14 ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcel Apfelbaum 2018-07-07 12:14 ` Marcel Apfelbaum 2018-07-31 15:58 ` [Qemu-devel] " Venu Busireddy 2018-07-31 15:58 ` Venu Busireddy 2018-07-31 16:03 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-31 16:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-31 19:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Marcel Apfelbaum 2018-07-31 19:11 ` Marcel Apfelbaum 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 virtio 1/1] Add "Group Identifier" to virtio PCI capabilities Venu Busireddy 2018-06-29 22:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Venu Busireddy 2018-07-02 16:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/3] Use of unique identifier for pairing virtio and passthrough devices Roman Kagan 2018-07-02 21:14 ` si-wei liu 2018-07-02 21:14 ` [virtio-dev] " si-wei liu 2018-07-03 9:58 ` Roman Kagan 2018-07-03 14:28 ` Venu Busireddy 2018-07-03 14:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Venu Busireddy 2018-07-03 14:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-03 14:52 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-03 23:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-03 23:31 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-04 12:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-04 12:15 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-06 0:49 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-06 0:49 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-06 13:54 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-06 13:54 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-06 15:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-06 15:07 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-09 16:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-09 16:20 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-06 23:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-06 23:37 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-09 16:27 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-09 16:27 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-09 13:14 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Roman Kagan 2018-07-09 13:14 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Roman Kagan 2018-07-09 16:10 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-09 16:10 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-03 15:34 ` Roman Kagan 2018-07-03 22:27 ` si-wei liu 2018-07-03 22:27 ` [virtio-dev] " si-wei liu 2018-07-09 13:00 ` Roman Kagan 2018-07-09 18:35 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-09 18:35 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 1:11 ` si-wei liu 2018-07-10 1:11 ` [virtio-dev] " si-wei liu 2018-07-10 1:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 1:54 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-11 0:07 ` Siwei Liu 2018-07-11 0:07 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-11 0:07 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-11 9:53 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-11 9:53 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-11 9:53 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-12 9:37 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 9:37 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 9:37 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 11:31 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-12 11:31 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-12 11:31 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-12 20:52 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 20:52 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 20:52 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 21:00 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-12 21:00 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-12 21:00 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-12 22:19 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 22:19 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-12 22:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-13 1:20 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Samudrala, Sridhar 2018-07-13 1:20 ` [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar 2018-07-13 1:20 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Samudrala, Sridhar 2018-07-13 3:28 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-13 3:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-13 3:28 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-13 9:15 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-13 9:15 ` [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-13 9:15 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Cornelia Huck 2018-07-12 19:18 ` Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-12 19:18 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-12 19:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 1:58 ` Michael S. Tsirkin [this message] 2018-07-10 1:58 ` [virtio-dev] Re: [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 18:56 ` Siwei Liu 2018-07-10 18:56 ` [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-10 18:56 ` [Qemu-devel] [virtio-dev] " Siwei Liu 2018-07-10 2:05 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 2:05 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-04 5:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-04 5:43 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 2:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 2:11 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-10 14:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Venu Busireddy 2018-07-10 14:28 ` [virtio-dev] " Venu Busireddy 2018-07-12 21:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael S. Tsirkin 2018-07-12 21:01 ` [virtio-dev] " Michael S. Tsirkin
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