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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@gmail.com>
To: Peter Maydell <peter.maydell@linaro.org>
Cc: "Stefan Hajnoczi" <stefanha@redhat.com>,
	"Jim Mussared" <jim@groklearning.com>,
	"Steffen Görtz" <mail@steffen-goertz.de>,
	"Su Hang" <suhang16@mails.ucas.ac.cn>,
	"Liviu Ionescu" <ilg@livius.net>,
	"Alistair Francis" <alistair@alistair23.me>,
	"QEMU Developers" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Subbaraya Sundeep" <sundeep.lkml@gmail.com>,
	"Steffen Gortz" <qemu.ml@steffen-goertz.de>,
	qemu-arm <qemu-arm@nongnu.org>, "Joel Stanley" <joel@jms.id.au>,
	"Julia Suvorova" <jusual@mail.ru>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] loader: Implement .hex file loader
Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 07:51:25 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180802065125.GB13481@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAFEAcA8m2f-DRiDNF0ry4nMH9bzZ1gODV4MTgtLwR5jTNdgeJA@mail.gmail.com>

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On Mon, Jul 30, 2018 at 07:01:53PM +0100, Peter Maydell wrote:
> On 25 July 2018 at 09:59, Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com> wrote:
> > From: Su Hang <suhang16@mails.ucas.ac.cn>
> >
> > This patch adds Intel Hexadecimal Object File format support to the
> > loader.  The file format specification is available here:
> > http://www.piclist.com/techref/fileext/hex/intel.htm
> >
> > This file format is often used with microcontrollers such as the
> > micro:bit, Arduino, STM32, etc.  Users expect to be able to run them
> > directly with qemu -kernel program.hex instead of converting to ELF or
> > binary.
> 
> I'm still not convinced we want to add another random
> special case only-works-on-one-architecture-and-some-boards
> feature to the -kernel command line option.
> 
> Adding it to the "generic loader" device might be more plausible?

I'll look into this and let you know what I find.

> Or just get the user to create ELF files or plain binary files,
> both of which we already handle.

Plain binary definitely won't work because the .hex files contain sparse
(discontiguous) data.

But even using ELF would be very inconvenient to users since .hex is
*the* format that micro:bit IDEs and toolchains use.  Our goal is for
less technical users (even kids learning to program) to use QEMU has a
micro:bit simulator, so the ability to directly use .hex files is very
important.

Stefan

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-02  6:51 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-07-25  8:59 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] arm: add Cortex M0 CPU model and hex file loader Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-25  8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 1/7] hw/arm: rename armv7m_load_kernel() Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-27  4:52   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-07-30 17:30   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2018-07-25  8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 2/7] hw/arm: rename TYPE_ARMV7M to TYPE_ARM_M_PROFILE Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-27  4:53   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-07-30 17:29   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2018-07-25  8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 3/7] hw/arm: make bitbanded IO optional on ARM M Profile Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-27  4:53   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-07-30 17:33   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2018-07-31 17:18   ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-25  8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 4/7] target/arm: add "cortex-m0" CPU model Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-27  5:26   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-07-30 17:51     ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-10  3:37       ` Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-07-30 17:52   ` [Qemu-devel] " Peter Maydell
2018-08-02  6:47     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-25  8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 5/7] loader: add rom transaction API Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-30 17:57   ` Peter Maydell
2018-07-25  8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 6/7] loader: Implement .hex file loader Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-30 18:01   ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-02  6:51     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2018-08-02 12:43     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-08-02 22:04       ` Peter Maydell
2018-08-03 10:32         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-25  8:59 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 7/7] Add QTest testcase for the Intel Hexadecimal Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-27  4:52   ` [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-arm] " Philippe Mathieu-Daudé
2018-07-27 23:58     ` Su Hang
2018-08-02  6:53       ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-07-25  9:04 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v3 0/7] arm: add Cortex M0 CPU model and hex file loader Stefan Hajnoczi

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