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From: Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] pci: Support parsing PCI controller DT subnodes
Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2018 13:16:16 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20180813171616.GH29229@bill-the-cat> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f386f279-bbba-3cc7-6758-e11a03c56faa@gmail.com>

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 06:07:14PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
> On 08/13/2018 03:39 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
> [...]
> 
> >>>> Next step is to upstream the DT
> >>>> changes to Linux kernel, then sync the changes to U-Boot to satisfy
> >>>> this obsession - using exactly the same DT as Linux.
> >>>
> >>> This is not gonna happen.
> >>>
> >>> Sorry, you're really just wasting my time with this foolishness. If
> >>> U-Boot cannot parse valid DT bindings while other OSes can, U-Boot is
> >>> broken and must be fixed. So far I only see you attacking this patch and
> >>> trying to pull in everything you can do avoid accepting this patch or
> >>> providing a better alternative. This is not a constructive discussion,
> >>> so I stop here.
> >>
> >> The fix in this patch is purely hack, period.
> > 
> > Lets step back for a moment.
> > 
> > First, U-Boot intends to be, in the case where a relevant DTS file
> > exists, the Linux kernel one PLUS additions we require (u-boot,dm-spl,
> > u-boot,dm-pre-reloc, but also sometimes stdout-path or properties that
> > are omitted for various reasons).
> 
> Right, which doesn't apply here. None of those u-boot,... props are
> needed in this case.

Which is why I also mentioned the non-u-boot specific props we also need
sometimes.  My point is two-fold:
1: We can and will _add_ information to the dts files that come from
Linux.
2: Not all information that we add is U-Boot prefixed.

> > Second, I've asked before (both in this thread and on IRC), and not
> > gotten an answer yet, as to how Linux goes "Oh, _this_ PCI device and
> > _this_ DT node need to be matched and populate some data
> > structures".
> 
> You did get an answer to that on irc from George. Looks like
> of_pci_find_child_device() in drivers/pci/of.c

Yeah, George said he thought that might be it but didn't have time to
confirm.

> > Marek's patch seems to be, in short "here's where U-Boot
> > needs to wire things up".  Bin has said that no, the function in
> > question is for other things.
> 
> I disagree with this. It's a bind function and assigns other parameters
> of the driver instance too.
> 
> > I think knowing where Linux does this
> > would be instructive to figure out where we need to have some additional
> > logic added OR we can make some cost/benefit analysis to see if it makes
> > more sense overall to add compatibles to some nodes rather than add to
> > the binary size.
> 
> Adding compatible does not make any sense, the PCI ID provides that
> information. Adding compatible would only add redundancy which could
> possibly be even harmful (ie. if the controller got replaced with
> another one).

To try and move things along rather than re-argue the same point, you're
saying that our pci_find_and_bind_driver() is the rough equivalent of
of_pci_find_child_device() or at least pci_set_of_node() (which calls
of_pci_find_child_device()).

So, Bin, if this isn't the right place to start down this path, where
would be?  Given that Linux can take a DTB and PCI bus with devices and
get things right, what would it look like for U-Boot to replicate the
same behavior?  Instead of having to add explicit compatible nodes for
each PCI device, as I understand (but correct me if I'm wrong) we're
doing today.  Thanks!

-- 
Tom
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Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-08 13:03 [U-Boot] [PATCH] pci: Support parsing PCI controller DT subnodes Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 13:14 ` Bin Meng
2018-08-08 13:24   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 13:39     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-08 14:33       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 15:32         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-08 19:37           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 23:24             ` Bin Meng
2018-08-09  0:36               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-09  2:37                 ` Bin Meng
2018-08-09  7:54                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-09  9:41                     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-09 10:25                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-10  3:42                         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-10 10:32                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-13  2:07                             ` Bin Meng
2018-08-13 13:39                               ` Tom Rini
2018-08-13 16:07                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-13 17:16                                   ` Tom Rini [this message]
2018-08-14  2:34                                     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-14  8:54                                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-14  9:35                                         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-15  9:20                                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-14 19:39                                       ` Tom Rini
2018-08-13 13:43                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-10 12:01             ` Tom Rini
2018-08-10 12:38               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-13  2:24                 ` Bin Meng
2018-08-13 13:46                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-14  1:46                     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-14  8:55                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-14  9:40                         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-15  9:22                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-15 10:19                             ` Bin Meng
2018-08-15 10:27                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-15 11:25                               ` Tom Rini
2018-08-16 11:47                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-17  1:51                                   ` Bin Meng
2018-08-17 10:27                                     ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-20  7:18                                       ` Bin Meng
2018-08-20  8:09                                         ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-20 16:57                                     ` Simon Glass
2018-08-20 18:42                                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-20 19:29                                         ` Simon Glass
2018-08-20 20:15                                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-22 18:08                                             ` Simon Glass
2018-08-22 20:19                                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-23 10:45                                                 ` Simon Glass
2018-08-23 12:58                                                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-30  0:29                                                     ` Simon Glass
2018-08-30  9:25                                                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-09-01 21:45                                                         ` Simon Glass
2018-09-01 22:43                                                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-09-02  1:07                                                             ` Simon Glass
2018-09-02 18:24                                                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-09-02 23:35                                                                 ` Simon Glass
2018-09-03  0:53                                                                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  3:46                                           ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21  4:02                                             ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  4:15                                               ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21  4:30                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  4:56                                                   ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21  5:43                                                     ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  7:16                                                       ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21 10:28                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-22  2:14                                                           ` Bin Meng
2018-08-22  9:57                                                             ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-23  2:11                                                               ` Bin Meng
2018-08-23  7:42                                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21 17:32                                             ` Simon Glass
2018-08-21 18:26                                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21 18:29                                                 ` Simon Glass
2018-08-21 18:56                                                   ` Marek Vasut

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