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From: Marek Vasut <marek.vasut@gmail.com>
To: u-boot@lists.denx.de
Subject: [U-Boot] [PATCH] pci: Support parsing PCI controller DT subnodes
Date: Tue, 14 Aug 2018 10:54:38 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <83281681-4568-d13d-6d97-8d78f6291382@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAEUhbmWbpF9gWg9+mR4d4VfYLQteRdDrXTuLHX5b=n5E7Jzq6w@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/14/2018 04:34 AM, Bin Meng wrote:
> Hi Tom,
> 
> On Tue, Aug 14, 2018 at 1:16 AM, Tom Rini <trini@konsulko.com> wrote:
>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 06:07:14PM +0200, Marek Vasut wrote:
>>> On 08/13/2018 03:39 PM, Tom Rini wrote:
>>> [...]
>>>
>>>>>>> Next step is to upstream the DT
>>>>>>> changes to Linux kernel, then sync the changes to U-Boot to satisfy
>>>>>>> this obsession - using exactly the same DT as Linux.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is not gonna happen.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sorry, you're really just wasting my time with this foolishness. If
>>>>>> U-Boot cannot parse valid DT bindings while other OSes can, U-Boot is
>>>>>> broken and must be fixed. So far I only see you attacking this patch and
>>>>>> trying to pull in everything you can do avoid accepting this patch or
>>>>>> providing a better alternative. This is not a constructive discussion,
>>>>>> so I stop here.
>>>>>
>>>>> The fix in this patch is purely hack, period.
>>>>
>>>> Lets step back for a moment.
>>>>
>>>> First, U-Boot intends to be, in the case where a relevant DTS file
>>>> exists, the Linux kernel one PLUS additions we require (u-boot,dm-spl,
>>>> u-boot,dm-pre-reloc, but also sometimes stdout-path or properties that
>>>> are omitted for various reasons).
>>>
>>> Right, which doesn't apply here. None of those u-boot,... props are
>>> needed in this case.
>>
>> Which is why I also mentioned the non-u-boot specific props we also need
>> sometimes.  My point is two-fold:
>> 1: We can and will _add_ information to the dts files that come from
>> Linux.
>> 2: Not all information that we add is U-Boot prefixed.
>>
> 
> It would be better if we document such DT expectation somewhere.
> 
>>>> Second, I've asked before (both in this thread and on IRC), and not
>>>> gotten an answer yet, as to how Linux goes "Oh, _this_ PCI device and
>>>> _this_ DT node need to be matched and populate some data
>>>> structures".
>>>
>>> You did get an answer to that on irc from George. Looks like
>>> of_pci_find_child_device() in drivers/pci/of.c
>>
>> Yeah, George said he thought that might be it but didn't have time to
>> confirm.
>>
>>>> Marek's patch seems to be, in short "here's where U-Boot
>>>> needs to wire things up".  Bin has said that no, the function in
>>>> question is for other things.
>>>
>>> I disagree with this. It's a bind function and assigns other parameters
>>> of the driver instance too.
>>>
>>>> I think knowing where Linux does this
>>>> would be instructive to figure out where we need to have some additional
>>>> logic added OR we can make some cost/benefit analysis to see if it makes
>>>> more sense overall to add compatibles to some nodes rather than add to
>>>> the binary size.
>>>
>>> Adding compatible does not make any sense, the PCI ID provides that
>>> information. Adding compatible would only add redundancy which could
>>> possibly be even harmful (ie. if the controller got replaced with
>>> another one).
>>
>> To try and move things along rather than re-argue the same point, you're
>> saying that our pci_find_and_bind_driver() is the rough equivalent of
>> of_pci_find_child_device() or at least pci_set_of_node() (which calls
>> of_pci_find_child_device()).
>>
>> So, Bin, if this isn't the right place to start down this path, where
>> would be?  Given that Linux can take a DTB and PCI bus with devices and
>> get things right, what would it look like for U-Boot to replicate the
>> same behavior?  Instead of having to add explicit compatible nodes for
>> each PCI device, as I understand (but correct me if I'm wrong) we're
>> doing today.  Thanks!
> 
> So is this a requirement for all U-Boot driver subsystems to replicate
> the same Linux behavior? If yes, can we have it officially documented
> somewhere?

No, because we are not replicating Linux behavior.

> Since Marek refused to take the original U-Boot option 1 to support
> his case, and asked U-Boot to follow Linux's practice on PCI device
> binding, if we go that way, here is what we can do:

You are inserting words into my mouth and I dislike that. I never said
anything about Linux. I said DT is OS agnostic and U-Boot should be able
to parse DT as fully as possible.

> * Keep pci-uclass driver's post_bind() and child_post_bind() only for
> Sandbox configuration
> * Keep the call to pci_bus_find_devfn() in pci_bind_bus_devices() only
> for Sandbox configuration
> * Sandbox is special. We should limit the mechanism of matching PCI
> emulation device via "compatible" to sandbox only

I don't think this is limited to sandbox, although I don't see a
real-world usecase right now.

> * Assign the DT node to the bound device in pci_find_and_bind_driver()
> if there is a valid PCI "reg" encoding for a specific PCI device in
> the device tree
> * Create DM PCI test case against the DT node assignment
> * Remove all compatible string in U-Boot's PCI device drivers: eg:
> ehci_pci_ids[], xhci_pci_ids[], etc. IOW, all PCI device drivers
> should only use U_BOOT_PCI_DEVICE(), aka the original U-Boot option 2
> * Fork a "pci-ns16550" driver to support U_BOOT_PCI_DEVICE(), as
> currently PCI ns16550 device driver uses "compatible" string to do the
> matching, and update crownbay.dts and galileo.dts (so far I only know
> two boards are using PCI ns16550 serial port)

I cannot test such changes, but I believe there is
PCI_CLASS_COMMUNICATION_SERIAL and matching on that would suffice ?

> * Make sure all DM PCI test cases are not broken
> * Document all of the above changes in doc/driver-model/pci-info.txt
> 
> I am not sure if I missed anything. Simon, could you also comment on it?
> 
> Regards,
> Bin
> 


-- 
Best regards,
Marek Vasut

  reply	other threads:[~2018-08-14  8:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-08-08 13:03 [U-Boot] [PATCH] pci: Support parsing PCI controller DT subnodes Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 13:14 ` Bin Meng
2018-08-08 13:24   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 13:39     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-08 14:33       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 15:32         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-08 19:37           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-08 23:24             ` Bin Meng
2018-08-09  0:36               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-09  2:37                 ` Bin Meng
2018-08-09  7:54                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-09  9:41                     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-09 10:25                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-10  3:42                         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-10 10:32                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-13  2:07                             ` Bin Meng
2018-08-13 13:39                               ` Tom Rini
2018-08-13 16:07                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-13 17:16                                   ` Tom Rini
2018-08-14  2:34                                     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-14  8:54                                       ` Marek Vasut [this message]
2018-08-14  9:35                                         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-15  9:20                                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-14 19:39                                       ` Tom Rini
2018-08-13 13:43                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-10 12:01             ` Tom Rini
2018-08-10 12:38               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-13  2:24                 ` Bin Meng
2018-08-13 13:46                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-14  1:46                     ` Bin Meng
2018-08-14  8:55                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-14  9:40                         ` Bin Meng
2018-08-15  9:22                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-15 10:19                             ` Bin Meng
2018-08-15 10:27                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-15 11:25                               ` Tom Rini
2018-08-16 11:47                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-17  1:51                                   ` Bin Meng
2018-08-17 10:27                                     ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-20  7:18                                       ` Bin Meng
2018-08-20  8:09                                         ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-20 16:57                                     ` Simon Glass
2018-08-20 18:42                                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-20 19:29                                         ` Simon Glass
2018-08-20 20:15                                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-22 18:08                                             ` Simon Glass
2018-08-22 20:19                                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-23 10:45                                                 ` Simon Glass
2018-08-23 12:58                                                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-30  0:29                                                     ` Simon Glass
2018-08-30  9:25                                                       ` Marek Vasut
2018-09-01 21:45                                                         ` Simon Glass
2018-09-01 22:43                                                           ` Marek Vasut
2018-09-02  1:07                                                             ` Simon Glass
2018-09-02 18:24                                                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-09-02 23:35                                                                 ` Simon Glass
2018-09-03  0:53                                                                   ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  3:46                                           ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21  4:02                                             ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  4:15                                               ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21  4:30                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  4:56                                                   ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21  5:43                                                     ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21  7:16                                                       ` Bin Meng
2018-08-21 10:28                                                         ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-22  2:14                                                           ` Bin Meng
2018-08-22  9:57                                                             ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-23  2:11                                                               ` Bin Meng
2018-08-23  7:42                                                                 ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21 17:32                                             ` Simon Glass
2018-08-21 18:26                                               ` Marek Vasut
2018-08-21 18:29                                                 ` Simon Glass
2018-08-21 18:56                                                   ` Marek Vasut

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