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From: Stefan Hajnoczi <stefanha@redhat.com>
To: jiangyiwen <jiangyiwen@huawei.com>
Cc: netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	virtualization@lists.linux-foundation.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	"Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v2 2/5] VSOCK: support fill data to mergeable rx buffer in host
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2018 15:49:23 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181213154923.GN23318__40228.74097941$1544716059$gmane$org@stefanha-x1.localdomain> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <5C11CD14.3040809@huawei.com>


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On Thu, Dec 13, 2018 at 11:08:04AM +0800, jiangyiwen wrote:
> On 2018/12/12 23:37, Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 05:29:31PM +0800, jiangyiwen wrote:
> >> When vhost support VIRTIO_VSOCK_F_MRG_RXBUF feature,
> >> it will merge big packet into rx vq.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Yiwen Jiang <jiangyiwen@huawei.com>
> > 
> > I feel this approach jumps into making interface changes for
> > optimizations too quickly. For example, what prevents us
> > from taking a big buffer, prepending each chunk
> > with the header and writing it out without
> > host/guest interface changes?
> > 
> > This should allow optimizations such as vhost_add_used_n
> > batching.
> > 
> > I realize a header in each packet does have a cost,
> > but it also has advantages such as improved robustness,
> > I'd like to see more of an apples to apples comparison
> > of the performance gain from skipping them.
> > 
> > 
> 
> Hi Michael,
> 
> I don't fully understand what you mean, do you want to
> see a performance comparison that before performance and
> only use batching?
> 
> In my opinion, guest don't fill big buffer in rx vq because
> the balance performance and guest memory pressure, add
> mergeable feature can improve big packets performance,
> as for small packets, I try to find out the reason, may be
> the fluctuation of test results, or in mergeable mode, when
> Host send a 4k packet to Guest, we should call vhost_get_vq_desc()
> twice in host(hdr + 4k data), and in guest we also should call
> virtqueue_get_buf() twice.

I like the idea of making optimizations in small steps and measuring the
effect of each step.  This way we'll know which aspect caused the
differences in benchmark results.

Stefan

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-12-13 15:49 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-12-12  9:29 [PATCH v2 2/5] VSOCK: support fill data to mergeable rx buffer in host jiangyiwen
2018-12-12 15:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-12 15:37 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13  3:08   ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13 14:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-13 14:48     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  7:41       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-14  7:41       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13 15:49     ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-12-14  7:49       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-14  7:49       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13 15:49     ` Stefan Hajnoczi [this message]
2018-12-12 19:09 ` David Miller
2018-12-12 19:09 ` David Miller
2018-12-13  3:11   ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13  3:11   ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13  5:59     ` David Miller
2018-12-13  5:59     ` David Miller
2018-12-13  7:42       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13  7:42       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13 15:46         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-12-13 15:46         ` Stefan Hajnoczi
2018-12-13 14:50     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2018-12-14  7:47       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-14  7:47       ` jiangyiwen
2018-12-13 14:50     ` Michael S. Tsirkin
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2018-12-12  9:29 jiangyiwen

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