From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org> To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org> Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a new KVM device for the XIVE native exploitation mode Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 14:01:20 +1100 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20190131030120.GB4675@blackberry> (raw) In-Reply-To: <74d4fe26-9e5a-a72e-815a-223a55f1bc0f@kaod.org> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 08:01:22AM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > On 1/30/19 5:29 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:35:34PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > >> On 1/22/19 6:05 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 07:43:17PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > >>>> This is the basic framework for the new KVM device supporting the XIVE > >>>> native exploitation mode. The user interface exposes a new capability > >>>> and a new KVM device to be used by QEMU. > >>> > >>> [snip] > >>>> @@ -1039,7 +1039,10 @@ static int kvmppc_book3s_init(void) > >>>> #ifdef CONFIG_KVM_XIVE > >>>> if (xive_enabled()) { > >>>> kvmppc_xive_init_module(); > >>>> + kvmppc_xive_native_init_module(); > >>>> kvm_register_device_ops(&kvm_xive_ops, KVM_DEV_TYPE_XICS); > >>>> + kvm_register_device_ops(&kvm_xive_native_ops, > >>>> + KVM_DEV_TYPE_XIVE); > >>> > >>> I think we want tighter conditions on initializing the xive_native > >>> stuff and creating the xive device class. We could have > >>> xive_enabled() returning true in a guest, and this code will get > >>> called both by PR KVM and HV KVM (and HV KVM no longer implies that we > >>> are running bare metal). > >> > >> So yes, I gave nested a try with kernel_irqchip=on and the nested hypervisor > >> (L1) obviously crashes trying to call OPAL. I have tighten the test with : > >> > >> if (xive_enabled() && !kvmhv_on_pseries()) { > >> > >> for now. > >> > >> As this is a problem today in 5.0.x, I will send a patch for it if you think > > > > How do you mean this is a problem today in 5.0? I just tried 5.0-rc1 > > with kernel_irqchip=on in a nested guest and it works just fine. What > > exactly did you test? > > L0: Linux 5.0.0-rc3 (+ KVM HV) > L1: QEMU pseries-4.0 (kernel_irqchip=on) - Linux 5.0.0-rc3 (+ KVM HV) > L2: QEMU pseries-4.0 (kernel_irqchip=on) - Linux 5.0.0-rc3 > > L1 crashes when L2 starts and tries to initialize the KVM IRQ device as > it does an OPAL call and its running under SLOF. See below. OK, you must have a QEMU that advertises XIVE to the guest (L1). In that case I can see that L1 would try to do XICS-on-XIVE, which won't work. We need to fix that. Unfortunately the XICS-on-XICS emulation won't work as is in L1 either, but I think we can fix that by disabling the real-mode XICS hcall handling. > I don't understand how L2 can work with kernel_irqchip=on. Could you > please explain ? If QEMU decides to advertise XIVE to the L2 guest and the L2 guest can do XIVE, then the only possibility is to use the XIVE software emulation in QEMU, and if kernel_irqchip=on has been specified explicitly, maybe QEMU decides to terminate the guest rather than implicitly turning off kernel_irqchip. If QEMU decides not to advertise XIVE to the L2 guest, or the L2 guest can't do XIVE, then we could use the XICS-on-XICS emulation in L1 as long as either (a) L1 is not using XIVE, or (b) we modify the XICS-on-XICS code to avoid using any XICS or XIVE access (i.e. just using calls to generic kernel facilities). Ultimately, if the spapr xive backend code in the kernel could be extended to provide all the low-level functions that the XICS-on-XIVE code needs, then we could do XICS-on-XIVE in a guest. Paul.
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From: Paul Mackerras <paulus@ozlabs.org> To: "Cédric Le Goater" <clg@kaod.org> Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org, kvm-ppc@vger.kernel.org, linuxppc-dev@lists.ozlabs.org, David Gibson <david@gibson.dropbear.id.au> Subject: Re: [PATCH 05/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a new KVM device for the XIVE native exploitation mode Date: Thu, 31 Jan 2019 03:01:20 +0000 [thread overview] Message-ID: <20190131030120.GB4675@blackberry> (raw) In-Reply-To: <74d4fe26-9e5a-a72e-815a-223a55f1bc0f@kaod.org> On Wed, Jan 30, 2019 at 08:01:22AM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > On 1/30/19 5:29 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote: > > On Mon, Jan 28, 2019 at 06:35:34PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > >> On 1/22/19 6:05 AM, Paul Mackerras wrote: > >>> On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 07:43:17PM +0100, Cédric Le Goater wrote: > >>>> This is the basic framework for the new KVM device supporting the XIVE > >>>> native exploitation mode. The user interface exposes a new capability > >>>> and a new KVM device to be used by QEMU. > >>> > >>> [snip] > >>>> @@ -1039,7 +1039,10 @@ static int kvmppc_book3s_init(void) > >>>> #ifdef CONFIG_KVM_XIVE > >>>> if (xive_enabled()) { > >>>> kvmppc_xive_init_module(); > >>>> + kvmppc_xive_native_init_module(); > >>>> kvm_register_device_ops(&kvm_xive_ops, KVM_DEV_TYPE_XICS); > >>>> + kvm_register_device_ops(&kvm_xive_native_ops, > >>>> + KVM_DEV_TYPE_XIVE); > >>> > >>> I think we want tighter conditions on initializing the xive_native > >>> stuff and creating the xive device class. We could have > >>> xive_enabled() returning true in a guest, and this code will get > >>> called both by PR KVM and HV KVM (and HV KVM no longer implies that we > >>> are running bare metal). > >> > >> So yes, I gave nested a try with kernel_irqchip=on and the nested hypervisor > >> (L1) obviously crashes trying to call OPAL. I have tighten the test with : > >> > >> if (xive_enabled() && !kvmhv_on_pseries()) { > >> > >> for now. > >> > >> As this is a problem today in 5.0.x, I will send a patch for it if you think > > > > How do you mean this is a problem today in 5.0? I just tried 5.0-rc1 > > with kernel_irqchip=on in a nested guest and it works just fine. What > > exactly did you test? > > L0: Linux 5.0.0-rc3 (+ KVM HV) > L1: QEMU pseries-4.0 (kernel_irqchip=on) - Linux 5.0.0-rc3 (+ KVM HV) > L2: QEMU pseries-4.0 (kernel_irqchip=on) - Linux 5.0.0-rc3 > > L1 crashes when L2 starts and tries to initialize the KVM IRQ device as > it does an OPAL call and its running under SLOF. See below. OK, you must have a QEMU that advertises XIVE to the guest (L1). In that case I can see that L1 would try to do XICS-on-XIVE, which won't work. We need to fix that. Unfortunately the XICS-on-XICS emulation won't work as is in L1 either, but I think we can fix that by disabling the real-mode XICS hcall handling. > I don't understand how L2 can work with kernel_irqchip=on. Could you > please explain ? If QEMU decides to advertise XIVE to the L2 guest and the L2 guest can do XIVE, then the only possibility is to use the XIVE software emulation in QEMU, and if kernel_irqchip=on has been specified explicitly, maybe QEMU decides to terminate the guest rather than implicitly turning off kernel_irqchip. If QEMU decides not to advertise XIVE to the L2 guest, or the L2 guest can't do XIVE, then we could use the XICS-on-XICS emulation in L1 as long as either (a) L1 is not using XIVE, or (b) we modify the XICS-on-XICS code to avoid using any XICS or XIVE access (i.e. just using calls to generic kernel facilities). Ultimately, if the spapr xive backend code in the kernel could be extended to provide all the low-level functions that the XICS-on-XIVE code needs, then we could do XICS-on-XIVE in a guest. Paul.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-31 3:01 UTC|newest] Thread overview: 271+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top 2019-01-07 18:43 [PATCH 00/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 01/19] powerpc/xive: export flags for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-09 3:33 ` David Gibson 2019-01-09 3:33 ` David Gibson 2019-01-09 13:08 ` Michael Ellerman 2019-01-09 13:08 ` Michael Ellerman 2019-01-09 13:38 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-09 13:38 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 02/19] powerpc/xive: add OPAL extensions for the XIVE native exploitation support Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-09 4:26 ` David Gibson 2019-01-09 4:26 ` David Gibson 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 03/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: check the IRQ controller type Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-09 4:27 ` David Gibson 2019-01-09 4:27 ` David Gibson 2019-01-22 4:56 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-22 4:56 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 16:24 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 16:24 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 0:50 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 0:50 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 10:16 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 10:16 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 04/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: export services for the XIVE native exploitation device Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-11 4:09 ` David Gibson 2019-01-11 4:09 ` David Gibson 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 05/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a new KVM device for the XIVE native exploitation mode Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-22 5:05 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-22 5:05 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 16:28 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 16:28 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-28 17:35 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-28 17:35 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-30 4:29 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-30 4:29 ` Paul 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2019-02-06 1:23 ` David Gibson 2019-02-06 1:23 ` David Gibson 2019-02-06 7:21 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-06 7:21 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-07 2:49 ` David Gibson 2019-02-07 2:49 ` David Gibson 2019-02-07 9:03 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-07 9:03 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-07 9:03 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-08 5:15 ` David Gibson 2019-02-08 5:15 ` David Gibson 2019-02-08 7:58 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-08 7:58 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-08 21:53 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-02-08 21:53 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-02-09 9:41 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-09 9:41 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-11 2:38 ` David Gibson 2019-02-11 2:38 ` David Gibson 2019-02-11 6:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-02-11 6:42 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-02-12 22:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-12 22:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 07/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a GET_TIMA_FD control to " Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 08/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a VC_BASE control to the " Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-22 5:14 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-22 5:14 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 16:56 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 16:56 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 4:49 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 4:49 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 15:36 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 15:36 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 09/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SET_SOURCE " Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 4:57 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 4:57 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 19:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 19:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 5:35 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 5:35 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 13:39 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 13:39 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 10/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a EISN attribute to kvmppc_xive_irq_state Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 11/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add support for the XIVE native exploitation mode hcalls Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-22 5:23 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-22 5:23 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 6:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-01-23 6:44 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-01-23 8:48 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 8:48 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 10:26 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 10:26 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 10:48 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 10:48 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-01-23 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 12/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: record guest queue page address Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 5:15 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 5:15 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 15:37 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 15:37 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 13/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a SYNC control for the XIVE native migration Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 5:17 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 5:17 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 15:39 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 15:39 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 14/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add a control to make the XIVE EQ pages dirty Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 5:18 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 5:18 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 15:46 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 15:46 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 5:30 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 5:30 ` David Gibson 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 15/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the source configuration Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 5:21 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 5:21 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 16:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 16:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 5:32 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 5:32 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 13:03 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 13:03 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-06 1:23 ` David Gibson 2019-02-06 1:23 ` David Gibson 2019-02-06 1:24 ` David Gibson 2019-02-06 1:24 ` David Gibson 2019-02-06 7:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-06 7:07 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-07 2:48 ` David Gibson 2019-02-07 2:48 ` David Gibson 2019-02-07 9:13 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-07 9:13 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-08 5:15 ` David Gibson 2019-02-08 5:15 ` David Gibson 2019-02-14 16:50 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-14 16:50 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` [PATCH 16/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the EQ configuration Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 18:43 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 5:24 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 5:24 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 17:45 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 17:45 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 19:10 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 18/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add passthrough support Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 19:10 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-22 5:26 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-22 5:26 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 6:45 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-01-23 6:45 ` Benjamin 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2019-01-24 8:41 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-24 8:41 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-28 4:43 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-28 4:43 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-29 13:46 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-29 13:46 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 19:10 ` [PATCH 19/19] KVM: introduce a KVM_DELETE_DEVICE ioctl Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-07 19:10 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-22 5:42 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-22 5:42 ` Paul Mackerras 2019-01-23 18:39 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 18:39 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-01-23 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-01-23 21:32 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt 2019-02-04 5:26 ` [PATCH 17/19] KVM: PPC: Book3S HV: add get/set accessors for the VP XIVE state David Gibson 2019-02-04 5:26 ` David Gibson 2019-02-04 18:57 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-04 18:57 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 5:33 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 5:33 ` David Gibson 2019-02-05 11:58 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-05 11:58 ` Cédric Le Goater 2019-02-06 1:19 ` David Gibson 2019-02-06 1:19 ` David Gibson 2019-01-22 4:46 ` [PATCH 00/19] 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