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From: Sudeep Holla <sudeep.holla@arm.com>
To: Chandra Sekhar Lingutla <clingutla@codeaurora.org>
Cc: catalin.marinas@arm.com, will.deacon@arm.com,
	Jeremy Linton <jeremy.linton@arm.com>,
	dietmar.eggemann@arm.com, Quentin Perret <quentin.perret@arm.com>,
	Morten Rasmussen <morten.rasmussen@arm.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] arch_topology: Update user supplied capacity to possible cpus in cluster
Date: Tue, 5 Mar 2019 16:54:31 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190305165431.GA17946@e107155-lin> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f5c3765a-f8a9-3b35-2c42-51430e562f5f@codeaurora.org>

On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 09:23:24PM +0530, Chandra Sekhar Lingutla wrote:
> 
> 
> On 3/5/2019 5:06 PM, Sudeep Holla wrote:
> > On Tue, Mar 05, 2019 at 11:29:55AM +0000, Quentin Perret wrote:
> >> On Tuesday 05 Mar 2019 at 11:13:21 (+0000), Sudeep Holla wrote:
> >> [...]
> >>> While I like the idea, I am afraid that linking this to cpufreq policy
> >>> may not be good. How will we deal with it on systems without CPUfreq ?
> >>
> >> Maybe something like this ?
> >>
> >> 	policy = cpufreq_cpu_get(cpu);
> >> 	if (policy) {
> >> 		for_each_cpu(i, policy->related_cpus) {
> >> 			/* Update capacity for @i*/
> >> 		}
> >> 		cpufreq_cpu_put(policy);
> >> 	} else {
> >> 		/* Update capacity for @cpu*/
> >> 	}
> >>
> >> I think it's OK to assume per-cpu capacities w/o CPUFreq. The only
> >> case where it makes sense to 'bind' the capacity of several CPUs
> >> together is when they're part of the same perf domain, I think. If you
> >> don't know what the perf domains are, then there's nothing sensible you
> >> can do.
> >>
> > 
> > Makes sense.
> > 
> >> And for the dependency, a large part of the arch_topology driver is
> >> already dependent on CPUFreq -- it registers a CPUFreq notifier on boot
> >> to re-scale the CPU capacities depending on the max freq of the various
> >> policies and so on. So the dependency is already there somehow.
> >>
> > 
> > Sorry when I mentioned dependency, I meant absence of it needs to be
> > dealt with. Your suggestion looks good.
> > 
> >> [...]
> >>
> >>> I think if there are no valid users of this, we *must* remove it. As I
> >>> have pointed out in past, giving user such access will need platform
> >>> knowledge. Though it's debatable topic, firmware providing this
> >>> information is the only correct solution IMO.
> >>
> >> Yeah, if nobody is using it then maybe we can just remove it. Or at
> >> least we can give it a go and if somebody complains then we can 'fix' it
> >> with something like my snippet above :-)
> >>
> > 
> > Happy to Ack code removing it ;). The argument that it can't be provided
> > by firmware is no longer valid. We already have some dependency on DVFS
> > data from the firmware for this to be functional correctly.
> > 
> If at all nobody uses it, making it as read-only (under debugfs) would be
> good ?

Yes, but under sysfs as it is now. Just remove write capability and make
it read-only.

> or else we are ok to update patch with related_cpus ?

As Quentin, mentions only if anyone has objections to the above and
provide valid use-case with details on how kernel can validate the data
provided from the user which is the most difficult part IMO.

--
Regards,
Sudeep

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-05 16:54 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-28 11:53 [PATCH] arch_topology: Update user supplied capacity to possible cpus in cluster Lingutla Chandrasekhar
2019-02-28 12:19 ` Sudeep Holla
2019-02-28 14:38   ` Chandra Sekhar Lingutla
2019-02-28 15:25     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-02 13:30       ` Chandra Sekhar Lingutla
2019-03-04 18:21         ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-05  9:23           ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-05 11:13             ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-05 11:29               ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-05 11:36                 ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-05 15:53                   ` Chandra Sekhar Lingutla
2019-03-05 16:12                     ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-05 16:54                     ` Sudeep Holla [this message]
2019-03-06 15:22                       ` Morten Rasmussen
2019-03-06 15:27                         ` [PATCH v1] arch_topology: Make cpu_capacity sysfs node as ready-only Lingutla Chandrasekhar
2019-03-06 15:27                           ` Lingutla Chandrasekhar
2019-03-07  7:28                           ` Juri Lelli
2019-03-07  7:28                             ` Juri Lelli
2019-03-07  9:31                             ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-07  9:31                               ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-07  9:57                               ` Juri Lelli
2019-03-07  9:57                                 ` Juri Lelli
2019-03-07 12:14                                 ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-07 12:14                                   ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-07 15:04                                   ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-07 15:04                                     ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-07 15:19                           ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-07 15:19                             ` Sudeep Holla
2019-03-08 11:45                           ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-03-08 11:45                             ` Dietmar Eggemann
2019-03-08 12:38                             ` [PATCH v2] " Lingutla Chandrasekhar
2019-03-08 12:38                               ` Lingutla Chandrasekhar
2019-03-27 10:56                               ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-27 10:56                                 ` Quentin Perret
2019-03-06  9:48                 ` [PATCH] arch_topology: Update user supplied capacity to possible cpus in cluster Dietmar Eggemann

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