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From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: "Vaittinen, Matti" <Matti.Vaittinen@fi.rohmeurope.com>
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Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 2/8] mfd: bd70528: Support ROHM bd70528 PMIC - core
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 09:21:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190404082153.GP6830@dell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70a8a87a403eb2ab8f0aad2a26456de8a162f363.camel@fi.rohmeurope.com>

On Thu, 04 Apr 2019, Vaittinen, Matti wrote:

> Hello Alexandre,
> 
> On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 09:56 +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > On 04/04/2019 10:24:49+0300, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 07:54:52AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 04 Apr 2019, Vaittinen, Matti wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Actually, now that I thik of it the right way to do this would
> > > > > have
> > > > > been the function pointer in parent data as was done in
> > > > > original patch
> > > > > set. HW-colleagues tend to re-use HW blocks, and we like to re-
> > > > > use our
> > > > > drivers. If the next PMIC from ROHM uses same RTC block but
> > > > > does not
> > > > > provide watchdog - then it is cleanest solution to fall back to
> > > > > function pointer and leave it to NULL when there is no WDT or
> > > > > when WDT
> > > > > is unused. Another option is to export dummy function - which
> > > > > is not so
> > > > > nice.
> > > > 
> > > > I think the converse is true.
> > > > 
> > > > Pointers to functions outside of a subsystem API context are
> > > > generally
> > > > horrible.  It's much nicer to call a function which can be easily
> > > > stubbed out in a header file based on a Kconfig option.  It's how
> > > > most
> > > > kernel APIs work.
> > > 
> > > I hate to admit but I see your point. This nicely solves any issues
> > > in
> > > syncronizing the startup for driver providing function pointer and
> > > for
> > > driver using it.
> > > 
> > 
> > Wouldn't it be easier to register the watchdog driver as part of the
> > RTC
> > driver?
> > 
> > As I see it, the wdt is just a glorified RTC alarm.
> 
> Do you suggest me to put all the stuff now placed in
> drivers/watchdog/bd70528_wdt.c into rtc driver? It would be doable -
> but I'd rather kept the WDT independent module so that it can be left
> out of config if WDT needs not to be used. And same with RTC. Also, re-
> use of RTC driver in HW which does not include WDT is easier when WDT
> is a separate module. To me it looks much cleaner to have the WDT as
> own module than polluting the RTC driver with config ifdefs.

I haven't looked at the code, but I agree with this in principle.

I'm a firm believer of having functionality in the most appropriate
subsystem.  IMHO, if a device can be neatly split 9/10 it should be.

> But from HW perspective you are correct. The WDT in BD70528 seems to be
> kind of RTC alarm which shuts of the PMIC if triggered.
> 
> Br,
> 	Matti Vaittinen

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
Linaro Services Technical Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Lee Jones <lee.jones@linaro.org>
To: "Vaittinen, Matti" <Matti.Vaittinen@fi.rohmeurope.com>
Cc: "alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com" <alexandre.belloni@bootlin.com>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"robh+dt@kernel.org" <robh+dt@kernel.org>,
	"mazziesaccount@gmail.com" <mazziesaccount@gmail.com>,
	"mturquette@baylibre.com" <mturquette@baylibre.com>,
	"devicetree@vger.kernel.org" <devicetree@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-pm@vger.kernel.org" <linux-pm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"sre@kernel.org" <sre@kernel.org>,
	"linus.walleij@linaro.org" <linus.walleij@linaro.org>,
	"sboyd@kernel.org" <sboyd@kernel.org>,
	"linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org" <linux-gpio@vger.kernel.org>,
	"broonie@kernel.org" <broonie@kernel.org>,
	"Mutanen, Mikko" <Mikko.Mutanen@fi.rohmeurope.com>,
	"a.zummo@towertech.it" <a.zummo@towertech.it>,
	"mark.rutland@arm.com" <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	"linux@roeck-us.net" <linux@roeck-us.net>,
	"linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org" <linux-watchdog@vger.kernel.org>,
	"lgirdwood@gmail.com" <lgirdwood@gmail.com>,
	"bgolaszewski@baylibre.com" <bgolaszewski@baylibre.com>,
	"wim@linux-watchdog.org" <wim@linux-watchdog.org>,
	"linux-clk@vger.kernel.org" <linux-clk@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-rtc@vger.kernel.org>,
	"Haikola, Heikki" <Heikki.Haikola@fi.rohmeurope.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH v11 2/8] mfd: bd70528: Support ROHM bd70528 PMIC - core
Date: Thu, 4 Apr 2019 09:21:53 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190404082153.GP6830@dell> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <70a8a87a403eb2ab8f0aad2a26456de8a162f363.camel@fi.rohmeurope.com>

On Thu, 04 Apr 2019, Vaittinen, Matti wrote:

> Hello Alexandre,
> 
> On Thu, 2019-04-04 at 09:56 +0200, Alexandre Belloni wrote:
> > On 04/04/2019 10:24:49+0300, Matti Vaittinen wrote:
> > > On Thu, Apr 04, 2019 at 07:54:52AM +0100, Lee Jones wrote:
> > > > On Thu, 04 Apr 2019, Vaittinen, Matti wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Actually, now that I thik of it the right way to do this would
> > > > > have
> > > > > been the function pointer in parent data as was done in
> > > > > original patch
> > > > > set. HW-colleagues tend to re-use HW blocks, and we like to re-
> > > > > use our
> > > > > drivers. If the next PMIC from ROHM uses same RTC block but
> > > > > does not
> > > > > provide watchdog - then it is cleanest solution to fall back to
> > > > > function pointer and leave it to NULL when there is no WDT or
> > > > > when WDT
> > > > > is unused. Another option is to export dummy function - which
> > > > > is not so
> > > > > nice.
> > > > 
> > > > I think the converse is true.
> > > > 
> > > > Pointers to functions outside of a subsystem API context are
> > > > generally
> > > > horrible.  It's much nicer to call a function which can be easily
> > > > stubbed out in a header file based on a Kconfig option.  It's how
> > > > most
> > > > kernel APIs work.
> > > 
> > > I hate to admit but I see your point. This nicely solves any issues
> > > in
> > > syncronizing the startup for driver providing function pointer and
> > > for
> > > driver using it.
> > > 
> > 
> > Wouldn't it be easier to register the watchdog driver as part of the
> > RTC
> > driver?
> > 
> > As I see it, the wdt is just a glorified RTC alarm.
> 
> Do you suggest me to put all the stuff now placed in
> drivers/watchdog/bd70528_wdt.c into rtc driver? It would be doable -
> but I'd rather kept the WDT independent module so that it can be left
> out of config if WDT needs not to be used. And same with RTC. Also, re-
> use of RTC driver in HW which does not include WDT is easier when WDT
> is a separate module. To me it looks much cleaner to have the WDT as
> own module than polluting the RTC driver with config ifdefs.

I haven't looked at the code, but I agree with this in principle.

I'm a firm believer of having functionality in the most appropriate
subsystem.  IMHO, if a device can be neatly split 9/10 it should be.

> But from HW perspective you are correct. The WDT in BD70528 seems to be
> kind of RTC alarm which shuts of the PMIC if triggered.
> 
> Br,
> 	Matti Vaittinen

-- 
Lee Jones [李琼斯]
Linaro Services Technical Lead
Linaro.org │ Open source software for ARM SoCs
Follow Linaro: Facebook | Twitter | Blog

  reply	other threads:[~2019-04-04  8:21 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 58+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-03-25 12:04 [PATCH v11 0/8] support ROHM BD70528 PMIC Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:04 ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:04 ` [PATCH v11 1/8] mfd: regulator: clk: split rohm-bd718x7.h Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:04   ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03  6:19   ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03  6:19     ` Lee Jones
2019-03-25 12:05 ` [PATCH v11 2/8] mfd: bd70528: Support ROHM bd70528 PMIC - core Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:05   ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03  7:31   ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03  7:31     ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03  8:47     ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03  8:47       ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03  9:30       ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03  9:30         ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03 10:10         ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03 10:10           ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03 11:25           ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03 11:25             ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03 11:45             ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-04-03 11:45               ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-04-04  2:52               ` Lee Jones
2019-04-04  2:52                 ` Lee Jones
2019-04-04  5:57                 ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-04-04  5:57                   ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-04-04  6:54                   ` Lee Jones
2019-04-04  6:54                     ` Lee Jones
2019-04-04  7:24                     ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-04  7:24                       ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-04  7:56                       ` Alexandre Belloni
2019-04-04  7:56                         ` Alexandre Belloni
2019-04-04  8:10                         ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-04-04  8:10                           ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-04-04  8:21                           ` Lee Jones [this message]
2019-04-04  8:21                             ` Lee Jones
2019-04-04  8:06                       ` Lee Jones
2019-04-04  8:06                         ` Lee Jones
2019-03-25 12:05 ` [PATCH v11 3/8] clk: bd718x7: Support ROHM BD70528 clk block Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:05   ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:05 ` [PATCH v11 4/8] dt-bindings: mfd: Document first ROHM BD70528 bindings Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:05   ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03  7:34   ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03  7:34     ` Lee Jones
2019-04-03  9:04     ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-04-03  9:04       ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:06 ` [PATCH v11 5/8] gpio: Initial support for ROHM bd70528 GPIO block Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:06   ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:06 ` [PATCH v11 6/8] rtc: bd70528: Initial support for ROHM bd70528 RTC Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:06   ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 17:04   ` Alexandre Belloni
2019-03-25 17:04     ` Alexandre Belloni
2019-03-26 13:51     ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-03-26 13:51       ` Vaittinen, Matti
2019-03-26 14:05       ` Alexandre Belloni
2019-03-26 14:05         ` Alexandre Belloni
2019-03-25 12:06 ` [PATCH v11 7/8] power: supply: Initial support for ROHM BD70528 PMIC charger block Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:06   ` Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:07 ` [PATCH v11 8/8] watchdog: bd70528: Initial support for ROHM BD70528 watchdog block Matti Vaittinen
2019-03-25 12:07   ` Matti Vaittinen

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