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From: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	"Paolo Bonzini" <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	"Richard Henderson" <rth@twiddle.net>,
	"Eduardo Habkost" <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	"Marcelo Tosatti" <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"Daniel P . Berrangé" <berrange@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] i386/kvm: document existing Hyper-V enlightenments
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 13:19:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190405131923.GB20411@rkaganb.sw.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190329141832.22882-4-vkuznets@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 03:18:27PM +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> Currently, there is no doc describing hv-* CPU flags, people are
> encouraged to get the information from Microsoft Hyper-V Top Level
> Functional specification (TLFS). There is, however, a bit of QEMU
> specifics.

This is appreciated a lot, thanks for doing this!

> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
> ---
>  docs/hyperv.txt | 180 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 180 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 docs/hyperv.txt
> 
> diff --git a/docs/hyperv.txt b/docs/hyperv.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000..397f2517b8
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/docs/hyperv.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,180 @@
> +Hyper-V Enlightenments
> +======================
> +
> +
> +1. Description
> +===============
> +In some cases when implementing a hardware interface in software is slow, KVM
> +implements its own paravirtualized interfaces. This works well for Linux as
> +guest support for such features is added simultaneously with the feature itself.
> +It may, however, be hard-to-impossible to add support for these interfaces to
> +proprietary OSes, namely, Microsoft Windows.
> +
> +KVM on x86 implements Hyper-V Enlightenments for Windows guests. These features
> +make Windows and Hyper-V guests think they're running on top of a Hyper-V
> +compatible hypervisor and use Hyper-V specific features.
> +
> +
> +2. Setup
> +=========
> +No Hyper-V enlightenments are enabled by default by either KVM or QEMU. In
> +QEMU, individual enlightenments can be enabled through CPU flags, e.g:
> +
> +  qemu-system-x86_64 --enable-kvm --cpu host,hv_relaxed,hv_vpindex,hv_time, ...
> +
> +Sometimes there are dependencies between enlightenments, QEMU is supposed to
> +check that the supplied configuration is sane.
> +
> +When any set of the Hyper-V enlightenments is enabled, QEMU changes hypervisor
> +identification (CPUID 0x40000000..0x4000000A) to Hyper-V. KVM identification
> +and features are kept in leaves 0x40000100..0x40000101.
> +
> +
> +3. Existing enlightenments
> +===========================
> +
> +3.1. hv-relaxed
> +================
> +This feature tells guest OS to disable watchdog timeouts as it is running on a
> +hypervisor. It is known that some Windows versions will do this even when they
> +see 'hypervisor' CPU flag.
> +
> +3.2. hv-vapic
> +==============
> +Provides so-called VP Assist page MSR to guest allowing it to work with APIC
> +more efficiently. In particular, this enlightenment allows paravirtualized
> +(exit-less) EOI processing.
> +
> +3.3. hv-spinlocks=xxx
> +======================
> +Enables paravirtualized spinlocks. The parameter indicates how many times
> +spinlock acquisition should be attempted before indicating the situation to the
> +hypervisor. A special value 0xffffffff indicates "never to retry".
> +
> +3.4. hv-vpindex
> +================
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_VP_INDEX (0x40000002) MSR to the guest which has Virtual
> +processor index information. This enlightenment makes sense in conjunction with
> +hv-synic, hv-stimer and other enlightenments which require the guest to know its
> +Virtual Processor indices (e.g. when VP index needs to be passed in a
> +hypercall).
> +
> +3.5. hv-runtime
> +================
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_VP_RUNTIME (0x40000010) MSR to the guest. The MSR keeps the
> +virtual processor run time in 100ns units. This gives guest operating system an
> +idea of how much time was 'stolen' from it (when the virtual CPU was preempted
> +to perform some other work).
> +
> +3.6. hv-crash
> +==============
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P0..HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P5 (0x40000100..0x40000105) and
> +HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_CTL (0x40000105) MSRs to the guest. These MSRs are written to
> +by the guest when it crashes, HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P0..HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P5 MSRs
> +contain additional crash information. This information is outputted in QEMU log
> +and through QAPI.
> +Note: unlike under genuine Hyper-V, write to HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_CTL causes guest
> +to shutdown. This effectively blocks crash dump generation by Windows.

Hmm, why?

> +
> +3.7. hv-time
> +=============
> +Enables two Hyper-V-specific clocksources available to the guest: MSR-based
> +Hyper-V clocksource (HV_X64_MSR_TIME_REF_COUNT, 0x40000020) and Reference TSC
> +page (enabled via MSR HV_X64_MSR_REFERENCE_TSC, 0x40000021). Both clocksources
> +are per-guest, Reference TSC page clocksource allows for exit-less time stamp
> +readings. Using this enlightenment leads to significant speedup of all timestamp
> +related operations.
> +
> +3.8. hv-synic
> +==============
> +Enables Hyper-V Synthetic interrupt controller - an extension of a local APIC.
> +When enabled, this enlightenment provides additional communication facilities
> +to the guest: SynIC messages and Events. This is a pre-requisite for
> +implementing VMBus devices (not yet in QEMU). Additionally, this enlightenment
> +is needed to enable Hyper-V synthetic timers. SynIC is controlled through MSRs
> +HV_X64_MSR_SCONTROL..HV_X64_MSR_EOM (0x40000080..0x40000084) and
> +HV_X64_MSR_SINT0..HV_X64_MSR_SINT15 (0x40000090..0x4000009F)
> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex
> +
> +3.9. hv-stimer
> +===============
> +Enables Hyper-V synthetic timers. There are four synthetic timers per virtual
> +CPU controlled through HV_X64_MSR_STIMER0_CONFIG..HV_X64_MSR_STIMER3_COUNT
> +(0x400000B0..0x400000B7) MSRs. These timers can work either in single-shot or
> +periodic mode. It is known that certain Windows versions revert to using RTC
> +extensively when this enlightenment is not provided; this leads to significant
> +CPU consumption, even when virtual CPU is idle.

I think it'll rather use HPET if available.  I'm also not sure the idle
vCPU scenario was one that motivated for implementing paravirtualized
timers.

> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex, hv-synic, hv-time
> +
> +3.10. hv-tlbflush
> +==================
> +Enables paravirtualized TLB shoot-down mechanism. On x86 architecture, remote
> +TLB flush procedure requires sending IPIs and waiting for other CPUs to perform
> +local TLB flush. In virtualized environment some virtual CPUs may not even be
> +scheduled at the time of the call and may not require flushing (or, flushing
> +may be postponed until the virtual CPU is scheduled). hv-tlbflush enlightenment
> +implements TLB shoot-down through hypervisor enabling the optimization.
> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex
> +
> +3.11. hv-ipi
> +=============
> +Enables paravirtualized IPI send mechanism. HvCallSendSyntheticClusterIpi
> +hypercall may target more than 64 virtual CPUs simultaneously, doing the same
> +through APIC requires more than one access (and thus exit to the hypervisor).
> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex
> +
> +3.12. hv-vendor-id=xxx
> +=======================
> +This changes Hyper-V identification in CPUID 0x40000000.EBX-EDX from the default
> +"Microsoft Hv". The parameter should be no longer than 12 characters. According
> +to the specification, guests shouldn't use this information and it is unknown
> +if there is a Windows version which acts differently.
> +Note: hv-vendor-id is not an enlightenment and thus doesn't enable Hyper-V
> +identification when specified without some other enlightenment.
> +
> +3.13. hv-reset
> +===============
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_RESET (0x40000003) MSR to the guest allowing it to reset
> +itself by writing to it. Even when this MSR is enabled, it is not a recommended
> +way for Windows to perform system reboot and thus it may not be used.
> +
> +3.14. hv-frequencies
> +============================================
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_TSC_FREQUENCY (0x40000022) and HV_X64_MSR_APIC_FREQUENCY
> +(0x40000023) allowing the guest to get its TSC/APIC frequencies without doing
> +measurements.
> +
> +3.15 hv-reenlightenment
> +========================
> +The enlightenment is nested specific, it targets Hyper-V on KVM guests. When
> +enabled, it provides HV_X64_MSR_REENLIGHTENMENT_CONTROL (0x40000106),
> +HV_X64_MSR_TSC_EMULATION_CONTROL (0x40000107)and HV_X64_MSR_TSC_EMULATION_STATUS
> +(0x40000108) MSRs allowing the guest to get notified when TSC frequency changes
> +(only happens on migration) and keep using old frequency (through emulation in
> +the hypervisor) until it is ready to switch to the new one. This, in conjunction
> +with hv-frequencies, allows Hyper-V on KVM to pass stable clocksource (Reference
> +TSC page) to its own guests.
> +
> +Recommended: hv-frequencies
> +
> +3.16. hv-evmcs
> +===============
> +The enlightenment is nested specific, it targets Hyper-V on KVM guests. When
> +enabled, it provides Enlightened VMCS feature to the guest. The feature
> +implements paravirtualized protocol between L0 (KVM) and L1 (Hyper-V)
> +hypervisors making L2 exits to the hypervisor faster. The feature is Intel-only.
> +Note: some virtualization features (e.g. Posted Interrupts) are disabled when
> +hv-evmcs is enabled. It may make sense to measure your nested workload with and
> +without the feature to find out if enabling it is beneficial.
> +
> +Requires: hv-vapic
> +
> +
> +4. Useful links
> +================
> +Hyper-V Top Level Functional specification and other information:
> +https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/Virtualization-Documentation
> -- 
> 2.20.1
> 

Thanks,
Roman.

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Roman Kagan <rkagan@virtuozzo.com>
To: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
Cc: Eduardo Habkost <ehabkost@redhat.com>,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	"Dr . David Alan Gilbert" <dgilbert@redhat.com>,
	"qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
	Paolo Bonzini <pbonzini@redhat.com>,
	Richard Henderson <rth@twiddle.net>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] i386/kvm: document existing Hyper-V enlightenments
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 2019 13:19:26 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190405131923.GB20411@rkaganb.sw.ru> (raw)
Message-ID: <20190405131926.3harVrB474yhMqlGgBMEqfES9v1BbJrKklkkYbx0b9g@z> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190329141832.22882-4-vkuznets@redhat.com>

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 03:18:27PM +0100, Vitaly Kuznetsov wrote:
> Currently, there is no doc describing hv-* CPU flags, people are
> encouraged to get the information from Microsoft Hyper-V Top Level
> Functional specification (TLFS). There is, however, a bit of QEMU
> specifics.

This is appreciated a lot, thanks for doing this!

> Signed-off-by: Vitaly Kuznetsov <vkuznets@redhat.com>
> ---
>  docs/hyperv.txt | 180 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 180 insertions(+)
>  create mode 100644 docs/hyperv.txt
> 
> diff --git a/docs/hyperv.txt b/docs/hyperv.txt
> new file mode 100644
> index 0000000000..397f2517b8
> --- /dev/null
> +++ b/docs/hyperv.txt
> @@ -0,0 +1,180 @@
> +Hyper-V Enlightenments
> +======================
> +
> +
> +1. Description
> +===============
> +In some cases when implementing a hardware interface in software is slow, KVM
> +implements its own paravirtualized interfaces. This works well for Linux as
> +guest support for such features is added simultaneously with the feature itself.
> +It may, however, be hard-to-impossible to add support for these interfaces to
> +proprietary OSes, namely, Microsoft Windows.
> +
> +KVM on x86 implements Hyper-V Enlightenments for Windows guests. These features
> +make Windows and Hyper-V guests think they're running on top of a Hyper-V
> +compatible hypervisor and use Hyper-V specific features.
> +
> +
> +2. Setup
> +=========
> +No Hyper-V enlightenments are enabled by default by either KVM or QEMU. In
> +QEMU, individual enlightenments can be enabled through CPU flags, e.g:
> +
> +  qemu-system-x86_64 --enable-kvm --cpu host,hv_relaxed,hv_vpindex,hv_time, ...
> +
> +Sometimes there are dependencies between enlightenments, QEMU is supposed to
> +check that the supplied configuration is sane.
> +
> +When any set of the Hyper-V enlightenments is enabled, QEMU changes hypervisor
> +identification (CPUID 0x40000000..0x4000000A) to Hyper-V. KVM identification
> +and features are kept in leaves 0x40000100..0x40000101.
> +
> +
> +3. Existing enlightenments
> +===========================
> +
> +3.1. hv-relaxed
> +================
> +This feature tells guest OS to disable watchdog timeouts as it is running on a
> +hypervisor. It is known that some Windows versions will do this even when they
> +see 'hypervisor' CPU flag.
> +
> +3.2. hv-vapic
> +==============
> +Provides so-called VP Assist page MSR to guest allowing it to work with APIC
> +more efficiently. In particular, this enlightenment allows paravirtualized
> +(exit-less) EOI processing.
> +
> +3.3. hv-spinlocks=xxx
> +======================
> +Enables paravirtualized spinlocks. The parameter indicates how many times
> +spinlock acquisition should be attempted before indicating the situation to the
> +hypervisor. A special value 0xffffffff indicates "never to retry".
> +
> +3.4. hv-vpindex
> +================
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_VP_INDEX (0x40000002) MSR to the guest which has Virtual
> +processor index information. This enlightenment makes sense in conjunction with
> +hv-synic, hv-stimer and other enlightenments which require the guest to know its
> +Virtual Processor indices (e.g. when VP index needs to be passed in a
> +hypercall).
> +
> +3.5. hv-runtime
> +================
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_VP_RUNTIME (0x40000010) MSR to the guest. The MSR keeps the
> +virtual processor run time in 100ns units. This gives guest operating system an
> +idea of how much time was 'stolen' from it (when the virtual CPU was preempted
> +to perform some other work).
> +
> +3.6. hv-crash
> +==============
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P0..HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P5 (0x40000100..0x40000105) and
> +HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_CTL (0x40000105) MSRs to the guest. These MSRs are written to
> +by the guest when it crashes, HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P0..HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_P5 MSRs
> +contain additional crash information. This information is outputted in QEMU log
> +and through QAPI.
> +Note: unlike under genuine Hyper-V, write to HV_X64_MSR_CRASH_CTL causes guest
> +to shutdown. This effectively blocks crash dump generation by Windows.

Hmm, why?

> +
> +3.7. hv-time
> +=============
> +Enables two Hyper-V-specific clocksources available to the guest: MSR-based
> +Hyper-V clocksource (HV_X64_MSR_TIME_REF_COUNT, 0x40000020) and Reference TSC
> +page (enabled via MSR HV_X64_MSR_REFERENCE_TSC, 0x40000021). Both clocksources
> +are per-guest, Reference TSC page clocksource allows for exit-less time stamp
> +readings. Using this enlightenment leads to significant speedup of all timestamp
> +related operations.
> +
> +3.8. hv-synic
> +==============
> +Enables Hyper-V Synthetic interrupt controller - an extension of a local APIC.
> +When enabled, this enlightenment provides additional communication facilities
> +to the guest: SynIC messages and Events. This is a pre-requisite for
> +implementing VMBus devices (not yet in QEMU). Additionally, this enlightenment
> +is needed to enable Hyper-V synthetic timers. SynIC is controlled through MSRs
> +HV_X64_MSR_SCONTROL..HV_X64_MSR_EOM (0x40000080..0x40000084) and
> +HV_X64_MSR_SINT0..HV_X64_MSR_SINT15 (0x40000090..0x4000009F)
> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex
> +
> +3.9. hv-stimer
> +===============
> +Enables Hyper-V synthetic timers. There are four synthetic timers per virtual
> +CPU controlled through HV_X64_MSR_STIMER0_CONFIG..HV_X64_MSR_STIMER3_COUNT
> +(0x400000B0..0x400000B7) MSRs. These timers can work either in single-shot or
> +periodic mode. It is known that certain Windows versions revert to using RTC
> +extensively when this enlightenment is not provided; this leads to significant
> +CPU consumption, even when virtual CPU is idle.

I think it'll rather use HPET if available.  I'm also not sure the idle
vCPU scenario was one that motivated for implementing paravirtualized
timers.

> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex, hv-synic, hv-time
> +
> +3.10. hv-tlbflush
> +==================
> +Enables paravirtualized TLB shoot-down mechanism. On x86 architecture, remote
> +TLB flush procedure requires sending IPIs and waiting for other CPUs to perform
> +local TLB flush. In virtualized environment some virtual CPUs may not even be
> +scheduled at the time of the call and may not require flushing (or, flushing
> +may be postponed until the virtual CPU is scheduled). hv-tlbflush enlightenment
> +implements TLB shoot-down through hypervisor enabling the optimization.
> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex
> +
> +3.11. hv-ipi
> +=============
> +Enables paravirtualized IPI send mechanism. HvCallSendSyntheticClusterIpi
> +hypercall may target more than 64 virtual CPUs simultaneously, doing the same
> +through APIC requires more than one access (and thus exit to the hypervisor).
> +
> +Requires: hv-vpindex
> +
> +3.12. hv-vendor-id=xxx
> +=======================
> +This changes Hyper-V identification in CPUID 0x40000000.EBX-EDX from the default
> +"Microsoft Hv". The parameter should be no longer than 12 characters. According
> +to the specification, guests shouldn't use this information and it is unknown
> +if there is a Windows version which acts differently.
> +Note: hv-vendor-id is not an enlightenment and thus doesn't enable Hyper-V
> +identification when specified without some other enlightenment.
> +
> +3.13. hv-reset
> +===============
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_RESET (0x40000003) MSR to the guest allowing it to reset
> +itself by writing to it. Even when this MSR is enabled, it is not a recommended
> +way for Windows to perform system reboot and thus it may not be used.
> +
> +3.14. hv-frequencies
> +============================================
> +Provides HV_X64_MSR_TSC_FREQUENCY (0x40000022) and HV_X64_MSR_APIC_FREQUENCY
> +(0x40000023) allowing the guest to get its TSC/APIC frequencies without doing
> +measurements.
> +
> +3.15 hv-reenlightenment
> +========================
> +The enlightenment is nested specific, it targets Hyper-V on KVM guests. When
> +enabled, it provides HV_X64_MSR_REENLIGHTENMENT_CONTROL (0x40000106),
> +HV_X64_MSR_TSC_EMULATION_CONTROL (0x40000107)and HV_X64_MSR_TSC_EMULATION_STATUS
> +(0x40000108) MSRs allowing the guest to get notified when TSC frequency changes
> +(only happens on migration) and keep using old frequency (through emulation in
> +the hypervisor) until it is ready to switch to the new one. This, in conjunction
> +with hv-frequencies, allows Hyper-V on KVM to pass stable clocksource (Reference
> +TSC page) to its own guests.
> +
> +Recommended: hv-frequencies
> +
> +3.16. hv-evmcs
> +===============
> +The enlightenment is nested specific, it targets Hyper-V on KVM guests. When
> +enabled, it provides Enlightened VMCS feature to the guest. The feature
> +implements paravirtualized protocol between L0 (KVM) and L1 (Hyper-V)
> +hypervisors making L2 exits to the hypervisor faster. The feature is Intel-only.
> +Note: some virtualization features (e.g. Posted Interrupts) are disabled when
> +hv-evmcs is enabled. It may make sense to measure your nested workload with and
> +without the feature to find out if enabling it is beneficial.
> +
> +Requires: hv-vapic
> +
> +
> +4. Useful links
> +================
> +Hyper-V Top Level Functional specification and other information:
> +https://github.com/MicrosoftDocs/Virtualization-Documentation
> -- 
> 2.20.1
> 

Thanks,
Roman.


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2019-04-05 13:05   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] i386/kvm: add support for KVM_GET_SUPPORTED_HV_CPUID Roman Kagan
2019-04-05 13:05     ` Roman Kagan
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2019-04-05 13:19   ` Roman Kagan [this message]
2019-04-05 13:19     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] i386/kvm: document existing Hyper-V enlightenments Roman Kagan
2019-04-05 14:29     ` Vitaly Kuznetsov
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2019-04-05 15:07   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] i386/kvm: implement 'hv-all' pass-through mode Roman Kagan
2019-04-05 15:07     ` Roman Kagan
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2019-04-05 17:00       ` Vitaly Kuznetsov

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