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From: Joel Fernandes <joel-QYYGw3jwrUn5owFQY34kdNi2O/JbrIOy@public.gmane.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers
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Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/4] Forbid static SRCU use in modules
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 19:32:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190407193202.GA30934@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <134026717.535.1554665176677.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>

On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 03:26:16PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:59 AM, paulmck paulmck-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 06:39:41AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >> On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 07:06:13PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > 
> > [ . . . ]
> > 
> >> > > diff --git a/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > b/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > index f8f6f04c4453..c2d919a1566e 100644
> >> > > --- a/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > +++ b/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > @@ -338,6 +338,10 @@
> >> > >  		KEEP(*(__tracepoints_ptrs)) /* Tracepoints: pointer array */ \
> >> > >  		__stop___tracepoints_ptrs = .;				\
> >> > >  		*(__tracepoints_strings)/* Tracepoints: strings */	\
> >> > > +		. = ALIGN(8);						\
> >> > > +		__start___srcu_struct = .;				\
> >> > > +		*(___srcu_struct_ptrs)					\
> >> > > +		__end___srcu_struct = .;				\
> >> > >  	}								\
> >> > 
> >> > This vmlinux linker modification is not needed. I tested without it and srcu
> >> > torture works fine with rcutorture built as a module. Putting further prints
> >> > in kernel/module.c verified that the kernel is able to find the srcu structs
> >> > just fine. You could squash the below patch into this one or apply it on top
> >> > of the dev branch.
> >> 
> >> Good point, given that otherwise FORTRAN named common blocks would not
> >> work.
> >> 
> >> But isn't one advantage of leaving that stuff in the RO_DATA_SECTION()
> >> macro that it can be mapped read-only?  Or am I suffering from excessive
> >> optimism?
> > 
> > And to answer the other question, in the case where I am suffering from
> > excessive optimism, it should be a separate commit.  Please see below
> > for the updated original commit thus far.
> > 
> > And may I have your Tested-by?
> 
> Just to confirm: does the cleanup performed in the modules going
> notifier end up acting as a barrier first before freeing the memory ?
> If not, is it explicitly stated that a barrier must be issued before
> module unload ?
> 

You mean rcu_barrier? It is mentioned in the documentation that this is the
responsibility of the module writer to prevent delays for all modules.

thanks.


> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> -- 
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com

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From: Joel Fernandes <joel@joelfernandes.org>
To: Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers@efficios.com>
Cc: paulmck <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>, rcu <rcu@vger.kernel.org>,
	linux-kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@kernel.org>,
	Lai Jiangshan <jiangshanlai@gmail.com>,
	dipankar <dipankar@in.ibm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Josh Triplett <josh@joshtriplett.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Peter Zijlstra <peterz@infradead.org>,
	rostedt <rostedt@goodmis.org>,
	David Howells <dhowells@redhat.com>,
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	Oleg Nesterov <oleg@redhat.com>,
	linux-nvdimm <linux-nvdimm@lists.01.org>,
	dri-devel <dri-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>,
	amd-gfx <amd-gfx@lists.freedesktop.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/4] Forbid static SRCU use in modules
Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2019 19:32:02 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190407193202.GA30934@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <134026717.535.1554665176677.JavaMail.zimbra@efficios.com>

On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 03:26:16PM -0400, Mathieu Desnoyers wrote:
> ----- On Apr 7, 2019, at 9:59 AM, paulmck paulmck@linux.ibm.com wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Apr 07, 2019 at 06:39:41AM -0700, Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> >> On Sat, Apr 06, 2019 at 07:06:13PM -0400, Joel Fernandes wrote:
> > 
> > [ . . . ]
> > 
> >> > > diff --git a/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > b/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > index f8f6f04c4453..c2d919a1566e 100644
> >> > > --- a/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > +++ b/include/asm-generic/vmlinux.lds.h
> >> > > @@ -338,6 +338,10 @@
> >> > >  		KEEP(*(__tracepoints_ptrs)) /* Tracepoints: pointer array */ \
> >> > >  		__stop___tracepoints_ptrs = .;				\
> >> > >  		*(__tracepoints_strings)/* Tracepoints: strings */	\
> >> > > +		. = ALIGN(8);						\
> >> > > +		__start___srcu_struct = .;				\
> >> > > +		*(___srcu_struct_ptrs)					\
> >> > > +		__end___srcu_struct = .;				\
> >> > >  	}								\
> >> > 
> >> > This vmlinux linker modification is not needed. I tested without it and srcu
> >> > torture works fine with rcutorture built as a module. Putting further prints
> >> > in kernel/module.c verified that the kernel is able to find the srcu structs
> >> > just fine. You could squash the below patch into this one or apply it on top
> >> > of the dev branch.
> >> 
> >> Good point, given that otherwise FORTRAN named common blocks would not
> >> work.
> >> 
> >> But isn't one advantage of leaving that stuff in the RO_DATA_SECTION()
> >> macro that it can be mapped read-only?  Or am I suffering from excessive
> >> optimism?
> > 
> > And to answer the other question, in the case where I am suffering from
> > excessive optimism, it should be a separate commit.  Please see below
> > for the updated original commit thus far.
> > 
> > And may I have your Tested-by?
> 
> Just to confirm: does the cleanup performed in the modules going
> notifier end up acting as a barrier first before freeing the memory ?
> If not, is it explicitly stated that a barrier must be issued before
> module unload ?
> 

You mean rcu_barrier? It is mentioned in the documentation that this is the
responsibility of the module writer to prevent delays for all modules.

thanks.


> Thanks,
> 
> Mathieu
> 
> -- 
> Mathieu Desnoyers
> EfficiOS Inc.
> http://www.efficios.com

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-04-07 19:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 71+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-04-02 14:28 [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/4] Forbid static SRCU use in modules Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 14:29 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 1/4] dax/super: Dynamically allocate dax_srcu Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 14:29   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-03 18:31   ` Dan Williams
2019-04-03 18:31     ` Dan Williams
2019-04-04 21:04     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-04 21:04       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 14:29 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 2/4] drivers/gpu/drm: Dynamically allocate drm_unplug_srcu Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 16:14   ` Daniel Vetter
2019-04-02 16:14     ` Daniel Vetter
2019-04-02 14:29 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 3/4] drivers/gpu/drm/amd: Dynamically allocate kfd_processes_srcu Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 17:40   ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-04-02 17:40     ` Kuehling, Felix
2019-04-04 21:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-04 21:16       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 14:29 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 4/4] rcu: Forbid DEFINE{,_STATIC}_SRCU() from modules Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 15:14 ` [PATCH RFC tip/core/rcu 0/4] Forbid static SRCU use in modules Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-02 15:23   ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]     ` <20190402152334.GC4102-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-02 15:34       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-02 15:34         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-03 13:32         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-03 14:27           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]             ` <1028306587.504.1554301662374.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-03 16:20               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-03 16:20                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-03 19:30                 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-03 19:30                   ` Joel Fernandes
     [not found]                 ` <20190403162039.GA14111-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-05 23:28                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-05 23:28                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-06 13:33                     ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-07 13:48                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-07 13:48                         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                     ` <20190405232835.GA24702-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-06 23:06                       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-06 23:06                         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-07 13:39                         ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                           ` <20190407133941.GC14111-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-07 13:59                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-07 13:59                               ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                               ` <20190407135937.GA30053-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-07 15:46                                 ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-07 15:46                                   ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-07 17:05                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-07 17:05                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                                     ` <20190407170514.GE14111-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-08  0:36                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-08  0:36                                         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-08  2:28                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-07 19:26                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-07 19:26                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
     [not found]                                   ` <134026717.535.1554665176677.JavaMail.zimbra-vg+e7yoeK/dWk0Htik3J/w@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-07 19:32                                     ` Joel Fernandes [this message]
2019-04-07 19:32                                       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-07 20:41                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-07 20:41                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-07 21:07                                         ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-08  2:27                                           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-08 13:05                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-08 14:22                                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-08 14:49                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-08 15:46                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-08 17:24                                                     ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-09 15:40                                                       ` Joel Fernandes
     [not found]                                                         ` <20190409154012.GC248418-hpIqsD4AKlfQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-09 15:56                                                           ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-09 15:56                                                             ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-09 16:18                                                             ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-09 16:40                                                             ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                                                               ` <20190409164031.GE14111-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-09 16:45                                                                 ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-09 16:45                                                                   ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-09 17:55                                                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
     [not found]                                                                     ` <20190409175549.GG14111-tEXmvtCZX7AybS5Ee8rs3A@public.gmane.org>
2019-04-09 18:04                                                                       ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-09 18:04                                                                         ` Mathieu Desnoyers
2019-04-09 19:14                                                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-04-02 18:40     ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-02 18:40       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-02 18:40       ` Joel Fernandes
2019-04-03 13:19       ` Paul E. McKenney

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