* 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
@ 2019-05-19 22:17 Pavel Machek
2019-05-20 16:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-19 22:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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Hi!
emacs segfaults... when I attempt to exit it. And that did not use to
be the case. Nothing suspect in the dmesg. Rest of the machine seems
to work ok.
I'm using "l1tf=full" on kernel command line.
During one crash, I got some kind of debug output (from glibc?), but
it scrolled away when I asked for dmesg :-(.
Ideas welcome...
Pavel
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* Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-19 22:17 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland Pavel Machek
@ 2019-05-20 16:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-20 23:13 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior @ 2019-05-20 16:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
On 2019-05-20 00:17:01 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
Hi,
> emacs segfaults... when I attempt to exit it. And that did not use to
> be the case. Nothing suspect in the dmesg. Rest of the machine seems
> to work ok.
…
> Ideas welcome...
I assume that this happens with -rc1, too. Could you please check if
emacs still segfaults with commit
d9c9ce34ed5c8 ("x86/fpu: Fault-in user stack if copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() fails")
and commit
89833fab15d60 ("x86/fpu: Fix __user annotations")
?
Sebastian
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* Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-20 16:06 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
@ 2019-05-20 23:13 ` Pavel Machek
2019-05-21 7:32 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-20 23:13 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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Hi!
> > emacs segfaults... when I attempt to exit it. And that did not use to
> > be the case. Nothing suspect in the dmesg. Rest of the machine seems
> > to work ok.
> …
> > Ideas welcome...
>
> I assume that this happens with -rc1, too. Could you please check if
> emacs still segfaults with commit
>
> d9c9ce34ed5c8 ("x86/fpu: Fault-in user stack if copy_fpstate_to_sigframe() fails")
>
> and commit
>
> 89833fab15d60 ("x86/fpu: Fix __user annotations")
>
> ?
I don't have reproducible test case :-(. I had two or three failures
so far.
Best regards,
Pavel
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* Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-20 23:13 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2019-05-21 7:32 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-22 18:33 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior @ 2019-05-21 7:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
On 2019-05-21 01:13:42 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
Hi,
> I don't have reproducible test case :-(. I had two or three failures
> so far.
oki. Could you please send me the output of
dmesg | grep fpu
Sebastian
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* Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-21 7:32 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
@ 2019-05-22 18:33 ` Pavel Machek
2019-05-23 8:37 ` 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine " Pavel Machek
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-22 18:33 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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Hi!
I did not notice any new crashes.
> > I don't have reproducible test case :-(. I had two or three failures
> > so far.
>
> oki. Could you please send me the output of
> dmesg | grep fpu
Here you go:
Using method `randr'.
pavel@duo:~$ uname -a
Linux duo 5.2.0-rc1+ #32 SMP Mon May 20 12:51:17 CEST 2019 x86_64
GNU/Linux
pavel@duo:~$ dmesg | grep fpu
[ 0.000000] x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x001: 'x87 floating
point registers'
[ 0.000000] x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x002: 'SSE
registers'
[ 0.000000] x86/fpu: Supporting XSAVE feature 0x004: 'AVX
registers'
[ 0.000000] x86/fpu: xstate_offset[2]: 576, xstate_sizes[2]: 256
[ 0.000000] x86/fpu: Enabled xstate features 0x7, context size is
832 bytes, using 'standard' format.
pavel@duo:~$
model name : Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-2520M CPU @ 2.50GHz
Pavel
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* 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-22 18:33 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2019-05-23 8:37 ` Pavel Machek
2019-05-23 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
2019-05-23 14:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
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From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-23 8:37 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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Hi!
> I did not notice any new crashes.
New crash now; different machine, way -next kernel... and I even have
a backtrace.
Pavel
pavel@amd:~$ e cip/HOURS
Fatal error 11: Segmentation fault
Backtrace:
emacs[0x8138719]
emacs[0x8120446]
emacs[0x813758e]
emacs[0x81375fb]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0(+0xecb8)[0xb636ccb8]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0xebbf3)[0xb6283bf3]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(pselect+0xd3)[0xb627c363]
emacs[0x81ffdd9]
emacs[0x81c7ba4]
emacs[0x8127815]
emacs[0x812ada3]
emacs[0x812bdad]
emacs[0x812d838]
emacs[0x818b76c]
emacs[0x8120890]
emacs[0x818b66b]
emacs[0x8124b84]
emacs[0x8124e3f]
emacs[0x8059cb0]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf3)[0xb61b1a63]
emacs[0x805a76f]
^CSegmentation fault (core dumped)
pavel@amd:~$ uname -a
Linux amd 5.1.0-next-20190520 #285 SMP Mon May 20 13:20:20 CEST 2019
i686 GNU/Linux
pavel@amd:~$ dmesg | grep fpu
[ 0.000000] x86/fpu: x87 FPU will use FXSAVE
"Genuine Intel(R) CPU T2400 @ 1.83GHz"
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* Re: 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-23 8:37 ` 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine " Pavel Machek
@ 2019-05-23 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
2019-05-23 14:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-23 8:57 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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Hi!
> > I did not notice any new crashes.
>
> New crash now; different machine, way -next kernel... and I even have
> a backtrace.
And one more crash, on x220:
pavel@duo:/data/l/linux-next-32$ uname -a
Linux duo 5.2.0-rc1+ #32 SMP Mon May 20 12:51:17 CEST 2019 x86_64
GNU/Linux
pavel@duo:~$ fg
e cip/HOURS
Fatal error 11: Segmentation fault
Backtrace:
emacs[0x8138719]
emacs[0x8120446]
emacs[0x813758e]
emacs[0x81375fb]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0(+0xecb8)[0xf634fcb8]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0xebbf3)[0xf6266bf3]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(pselect+0xd3)[0xf625f363]
emacs[0x81ffdd9]
emacs[0x81c7ba4]
emacs[0x8127815]
emacs[0x812ada3]
emacs[0x812bdad]
emacs[0x812d838]
emacs[0x818b76c]
emacs[0x8120890]
emacs[0x818b66b]
emacs[0x8124b84]
emacs[0x8124e3f]
emacs[0x8059cb0]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(__libc_start_main+0xf3)[0xf6194a63]
emacs[0x805a76f]
^P/data/pavel/bin/e: line 2: 12713 Segmentation fault (core
dumped) emacs -nw $*
pavel@duo:~$ fg
Pavel
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* Re: 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-23 8:37 ` 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine " Pavel Machek
2019-05-23 8:57 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2019-05-23 14:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-27 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
2019-05-27 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
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From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior @ 2019-05-23 14:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
On 2019-05-23 10:37:24 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> Hi!
Hi,
> > I did not notice any new crashes.
>
> New crash now; different machine, way -next kernel... and I even have
> a backtrace.
could you please send me (offlist) your .config? Also, what kind of
userland do you run? Something like Debian stable?
> Pavel
Sebastian
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* Re: 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-23 14:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
@ 2019-05-27 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
2019-05-27 13:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-27 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
1 sibling, 1 reply; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-27 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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On Thu 2019-05-23 16:50:36, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2019-05-23 10:37:24 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> Hi,
>
> > > I did not notice any new crashes.
> >
> > New crash now; different machine, way -next kernel... and I even have
> > a backtrace.
>
> could you please send me (offlist) your .config? Also, what kind of
> userland do you run? Something like Debian stable?
Yep, debian stable.
cat /etc/debian_version
8.11
And now it happened again, and yes, emacs again:
emacs: ../../../../src/cairo-arc.c:189: _cairo_arc_in_direction:
Assertion `angle_max >= angle_min' failed.
Fatal error 6: Aborted
Backtrace:
emacs[0x8138719]
emacs[0x8120446]
emacs[0x813758e]
emacs[0x81375fb]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libpthread.so.0(+0xecb8)[0xf636ccb8]
/lib/ld-linux.so.2(+0xc42)[0xf7f49c42]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(gsignal+0x47)[0xf61c6367]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(abort+0x143)[0xf61c7a23]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x276c7)[0xf61bf6c7]
/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6(+0x27777)[0xf61bf777]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2(+0xee02)[0xf735ce02]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2(+0x2803b)[0xf737603b]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libcairo.so.2(cairo_arc+0x5c)[0xf736d94c]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x2558f5)[0xf78468f5]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x255e61)[0xf7846e61]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0xb21e3)[0xf76a31e3]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0xb25ca)[0xf76a35ca]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0xb2f4f)[0xf76a3f4f]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(gtk_render_frame+0x11c)[0xf787051c]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0xf1e97)[0xf76e2e97]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x1e44cd)[0xf77d54cd]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x31bf3e)[0xf790cf3e]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(+0xc2e2)[0xf711d2e2]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(+0xd9c9)[0xf711e9c9]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x3e3)[0xf7138463]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x25)[0xf71391e5]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x32b037)[0xf791c037]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x32cc89)[0xf791dc89]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(gtk_container_propagate_draw+0x24c)[0xf771f73c]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x12e80e)[0xf771f80e]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x16eb78)[0xf775fb78]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x1e44cd)[0xf77d54cd]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x31bf3e)[0xf790cf3e]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(+0xc2e2)[0xf711d2e2]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(+0xd9c9)[0xf711e9c9]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit_valist+0x3e3)[0xf7138463]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgobject-2.0.so.0(g_signal_emit+0x25)[0xf71391e5]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x32b037)[0xf791c037]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x32c86d)[0xf791d86d]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(+0x32cb09)[0xf791db09]
/usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libgtk-3.so.0(gtk_container_propagate_draw+0x24c)[0xf771f73c]
...
Aborted (core dumped)
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* Re: 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-23 14:50 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-27 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2019-05-27 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-27 13:03 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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On Thu 2019-05-23 16:50:36, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2019-05-23 10:37:24 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Hi!
> Hi,
>
> > > I did not notice any new crashes.
> >
> > New crash now; different machine, way -next kernel... and I even have
> > a backtrace.
>
> could you please send me (offlist) your .config? Also, what kind of
> userland do you run? Something like Debian stable?
You have configs in your inbox.
Pavel
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* Re: 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-27 13:03 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2019-05-27 13:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-27 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2019-06-01 21:30 ` Pavel Machek
0 siblings, 2 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior @ 2019-05-27 13:08 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Pavel Machek; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
On 2019-05-27 15:03:17 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> > could you please send me (offlist) your .config? Also, what kind of
> > userland do you run? Something like Debian stable?
>
> Yep, debian stable.
Since we had a little bit of development recently, could you please
check if
http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190526173325.lpt5qtg7c6rnbql5@linutronix.de
makes any difference?
Sebastian
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* Re: 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-27 13:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
@ 2019-05-27 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
2019-06-01 21:30 ` Pavel Machek
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-05-27 21:46 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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On Mon 2019-05-27 15:08:48, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2019-05-27 15:03:17 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > could you please send me (offlist) your .config? Also, what kind of
> > > userland do you run? Something like Debian stable?
> >
> > Yep, debian stable.
>
> Since we had a little bit of development recently, could you please
> check if
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190526173325.lpt5qtg7c6rnbql5@linutronix.de
>
> makes any difference?
Ok, I updated to -rc2 and applied that patch. I'll let you know if I
see another emacs crash.
Pavel
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* Re: 5.1.0-next-20190520 -- emacs segfaults on 32-bit machine Re: 5.2-rc0.8: emacs segfaults?! x220, with 32-bit userland
2019-05-27 13:08 ` Sebastian Andrzej Siewior
2019-05-27 21:46 ` Pavel Machek
@ 2019-06-01 21:30 ` Pavel Machek
1 sibling, 0 replies; 13+ messages in thread
From: Pavel Machek @ 2019-06-01 21:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Sebastian Andrzej Siewior; +Cc: kernel list, tglx, mingo, bp, hpa, x86
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On Mon 2019-05-27 15:08:48, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> On 2019-05-27 15:03:17 [+0200], Pavel Machek wrote:
> > > could you please send me (offlist) your .config? Also, what kind of
> > > userland do you run? Something like Debian stable?
> >
> > Yep, debian stable.
>
> Since we had a little bit of development recently, could you please
> check if
> http://lkml.kernel.org/r/20190526173325.lpt5qtg7c6rnbql5@linutronix.de
>
> makes any difference?
X version of emacs keeps crashing, but I guess that's something
unrelated. Looks like this one is solved.
Pavel
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