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From: Andrea Parri <andrea.parri@amarulasolutions.com>
To: Alan Stern <stern@rowland.harvard.edu>
Cc: "Paul E. McKenney" <paulmck@linux.ibm.com>,
	Boqun Feng <boqun.feng@gmail.com>,
	Herbert Xu <herbert@gondor.apana.org.au>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Frederic Weisbecker <fweisbec@gmail.com>,
	Fengguang Wu <fengguang.wu@intel.com>, LKP <lkp@01.org>,
	LKML <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Netdev <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Luc Maranget <luc.maranget@inria.fr>,
	Jade Alglave <j.alglave@ucl.ac.uk>
Subject: Re: rcu_read_lock lost its compiler barrier
Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2019 10:16:57 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190606081657.GA4249@andrea> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.44L0.1906041026570.1731-100000@iolanthe.rowland.org>

> This example really does point out a weakness in the LKMM's handling of 
> data races.  Herbert's litmus test is a great starting point:
> 
> 
> C xu
> 
> {}
> 
> P0(int *a, int *b)
> {
> 	WRITE_ONCE(*a, 1);
> 	synchronize_rcu();
> 	*b = 2;
> }
> 
> P1(int *a, int *b)
> {
> 	rcu_read_lock();
> 	if (READ_ONCE(*a) == 0)
> 		*b = 1;
> 	rcu_read_unlock();
> }
> 
> exists (~b=2)
> 
> 
> Currently the LKMM says the test is allowed and there is a data race, 
> but this answer clearly is wrong since it would violate the RCU 
> guarantee.
> 
> The problem is that the LKMM currently requires all ordering/visibility
> of plain accesses to be mediated by marked accesses.  But in this case,
> the visibility is mediated by RCU.  Technically, we need to add a
> relation like
> 
> 	([M] ; po ; rcu-fence ; po ; [M])
> 
> into the definitions of ww-vis, wr-vis, and rw-xbstar.  Doing so
> changes the litmus test's result to "not allowed" and no data race.  
> However, I'm not certain that this single change is the entire fix;  
> more thought is needed.

This seems a sensible change to me: looking forward to seeing a patch,
on top of -rcu/dev, for further review and testing!

We could also add (to LKMM) the barrier() for rcu_read_{lock,unlock}()
discussed in this thread (maybe once the RCU code and the informal doc
will have settled in such direction).

It seems worth stressing the fact that _neither_ of these changes will
prevent the test below from being racy, considered the two accesses to
"a" happen concurrently / without synchronization.

Thanks,
  Andrea

C xu-2

{}

P0(int *a, int *b)
{
	*a = 1;
	synchronize_rcu();
	WRITE_ONCE(*b, 2);
}
 
P1(int *a, int *b)
{
	rcu_read_lock();
	if (*a == 0)
		WRITE_ONCE(*b, 1);
	rcu_read_unlock();
}
 
exists (~b=2)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-06-06  8:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 99+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-09-10  0:57 [rcu] kernel BUG at include/linux/pagemap.h:149! Fengguang Wu
2015-09-10  0:57 ` Fengguang Wu
2015-09-10 10:25 ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-10 17:16   ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-10 17:16     ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-11  2:19     ` Boqun Feng
     [not found]       ` <CAJzB8QG=1iZW3dQEie6ZSTLv8GZ3YSut0aL1VU7LLmiHQ1B1DQ@mail.gmail.com>
2015-09-11 21:59         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-11 21:59           ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-12  5:46           ` Boqun Feng
2015-09-21 19:30       ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-09-21 19:30         ` Frederic Weisbecker
2015-09-21 20:43         ` Paul E. McKenney
2015-09-21 20:43           ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-02  5:56           ` rcu_read_lock lost its compiler barrier Herbert Xu
2019-06-02  5:56             ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-02 20:54             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-02 20:54               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03  2:46               ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  2:46                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  3:47                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03  4:01                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  4:01                     ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  4:17                     ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  4:17                       ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  7:23                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03  8:42                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 15:26                         ` David Laight
2019-06-03 15:40                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 15:40                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03  5:26                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  5:26                     ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  6:42                     ` Boqun Feng
2019-06-03  6:42                       ` Boqun Feng
2019-06-03 20:03                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-04 14:44                         ` Alan Stern
2019-06-04 14:44                           ` Alan Stern
2019-06-04 16:04                           ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-04 16:04                             ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-04 17:00                             ` Alan Stern
2019-06-04 17:00                               ` Alan Stern
2019-06-04 17:29                               ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-04 17:29                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-07 14:09                             ` inet: frags: Turn fqdir->dead into an int for old Alphas Herbert Xu
2019-06-07 14:09                               ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-07 15:26                               ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-07 15:26                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-07 15:32                                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-07 15:32                                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-07 16:13                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-07 16:13                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2019-06-07 16:19                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-07 16:19                                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 15:27                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-08 17:42                                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 17:42                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 17:50                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 17:50                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-08 18:50                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-08 18:14                                       ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  4:51                           ` rcu_read_lock lost its compiler barrier Herbert Xu
2019-06-06  4:51                             ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06  6:05                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  6:14                               ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06  6:14                                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06  9:06                                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  9:28                                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06  9:28                                     ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06 10:58                                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06 13:38                                       ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06 13:38                                         ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06 13:48                                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  8:16                           ` Andrea Parri [this message]
2019-06-06 14:19                             ` Alan Stern
2019-06-06 14:19                               ` Alan Stern
2019-06-08 15:19                               ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-08 15:56                                 ` Alan Stern
2019-06-08 15:56                                   ` Alan Stern
2019-06-08 16:31                                   ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03  9:35                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  8:38                 ` Andrea Parri
2019-06-06  9:32                   ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06  9:32                     ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  0:06             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03  3:03               ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  3:03                 ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-03  9:27                 ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 15:55                 ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 15:55                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 16:07                   ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 16:07                     ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 19:53                     ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-03 20:24                       ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-03 20:24                         ` Linus Torvalds
2019-06-04 21:14                         ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-05  2:21                           ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-05  2:21                             ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-05  3:30                             ` Paul E. McKenney
2019-06-06  4:37                               ` Herbert Xu
2019-06-06  4:37                                 ` Herbert Xu

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