* [PATCH v2] timer: document TIMER_PINNED
@ 2019-06-27 1:50 Peter Xu
2019-06-27 21:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2019-06-27 1:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: linux-kernel; +Cc: Marcelo Tosatti, Luiz Capitulino, Thomas Gleixner, peterx
The flag hints the user that the pinned timers will always be run on a
static CPU (because that should be what "pinned" means...) but that's
not the truth, at least with current implementation.
For example, currently if we setup a pinned timer but later on we call
mod_timer() upon the pinned timer, the mod_timer() will still try to
run the timer on the current processor and migrate the timer if
necessary. In other words, the suggested way to arm a pinned timer
should be add_timer_on() always. mod_timer() can be used in this case
only if current processor is the one that we want to pin the timer on.
Document it a bit with the definition of TIMER_PINNED so that all
future users will use it correctly.
CC: Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
CC: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Signed-off-by: Peter Xu <peterx@redhat.com>
---
include/linux/timer.h | 28 ++++++++++++++++++++--------
1 file changed, 20 insertions(+), 8 deletions(-)
diff --git a/include/linux/timer.h b/include/linux/timer.h
index 7b066fd38248..1b96cc623a12 100644
--- a/include/linux/timer.h
+++ b/include/linux/timer.h
@@ -36,19 +36,31 @@ struct timer_list {
#define __TIMER_LOCKDEP_MAP_INITIALIZER(_kn)
#endif
-/*
- * A deferrable timer will work normally when the system is busy, but
- * will not cause a CPU to come out of idle just to service it; instead,
- * the timer will be serviced when the CPU eventually wakes up with a
- * subsequent non-deferrable timer.
+/**
+ * @TIMER_DEFERRABLE: A deferrable timer will work normally when the
+ * system is busy, but will not cause a CPU to come out of idle just
+ * to service it; instead, the timer will be serviced when the CPU
+ * eventually wakes up with a subsequent non-deferrable timer.
*
- * An irqsafe timer is executed with IRQ disabled and it's safe to wait for
- * the completion of the running instance from IRQ handlers, for example,
- * by calling del_timer_sync().
+ * @TIMER_IRQSAFE: An irqsafe timer is executed with IRQ disabled and
+ * it's safe to wait for the completion of the running instance from
+ * IRQ handlers, for example, by calling del_timer_sync().
*
* Note: The irq disabled callback execution is a special case for
* workqueue locking issues. It's not meant for executing random crap
* with interrupts disabled. Abuse is monitored!
+ *
+ * @TIMER_PINNED: A pinned timer will not be affected by any timer
+ * placement heuristics (like, NOHZ) and will always be run on the CPU
+ * when the timer was enqueued.
+ *
+ * Note: Because enqueuing of timers can actually migrate the timer
+ * from one CPU to another, pinned timers are not guaranteed to stay
+ * on the initialy selected CPU. They move to the CPU on which the
+ * enqueue function is invoked via mod_timer() or add_timer(). If the
+ * timer should be placed on a particular CPU, then add_timer_on() has
+ * to be used. It is also suggested that the user should always use
+ * add_timer_on() explicitly for pinned timers.
*/
#define TIMER_CPUMASK 0x0003FFFF
#define TIMER_MIGRATING 0x00040000
--
2.21.0
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* Re: [PATCH v2] timer: document TIMER_PINNED
2019-06-27 1:50 [PATCH v2] timer: document TIMER_PINNED Peter Xu
@ 2019-06-27 21:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
2019-06-28 10:55 ` Peter Xu
0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Gleixner @ 2019-06-27 21:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Peter Xu; +Cc: linux-kernel, Marcelo Tosatti, Luiz Capitulino
On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Peter Xu wrote:
> + * @TIMER_PINNED: A pinned timer will not be affected by any timer
> + * placement heuristics (like, NOHZ) and will always be run on the CPU
> + * when the timer was enqueued.
s/when/on which/
> + *
> + * Note: Because enqueuing of timers can actually migrate the timer
> + * from one CPU to another, pinned timers are not guaranteed to stay
> + * on the initialy selected CPU. They move to the CPU on which the
> + * enqueue function is invoked via mod_timer() or add_timer(). If the
> + * timer should be placed on a particular CPU, then add_timer_on() has
> + * to be used. It is also suggested that the user should always use
> + * add_timer_on() explicitly for pinned timers.
That last sentence is not correct. add_timer_on() has limitations over
mod_timer(). As pinned prevents the timer from being queued on a remote CPU
mod timer is perfectly fine for many cases.
add_timer_on() is really about queueing a timer on a dedicated CPU, which
is often enough a remote CPU.
Thanks,
tglx
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* Re: [PATCH v2] timer: document TIMER_PINNED
2019-06-27 21:10 ` Thomas Gleixner
@ 2019-06-28 10:55 ` Peter Xu
0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Peter Xu @ 2019-06-28 10:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Thomas Gleixner; +Cc: linux-kernel, Marcelo Tosatti, Luiz Capitulino
On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 11:10:08PM +0200, Thomas Gleixner wrote:
> On Thu, 27 Jun 2019, Peter Xu wrote:
> > + * @TIMER_PINNED: A pinned timer will not be affected by any timer
> > + * placement heuristics (like, NOHZ) and will always be run on the CPU
> > + * when the timer was enqueued.
>
> s/when/on which/
Fixed.
>
> > + *
> > + * Note: Because enqueuing of timers can actually migrate the timer
> > + * from one CPU to another, pinned timers are not guaranteed to stay
> > + * on the initialy selected CPU. They move to the CPU on which the
> > + * enqueue function is invoked via mod_timer() or add_timer(). If the
> > + * timer should be placed on a particular CPU, then add_timer_on() has
> > + * to be used. It is also suggested that the user should always use
> > + * add_timer_on() explicitly for pinned timers.
>
> That last sentence is not correct. add_timer_on() has limitations over
> mod_timer(). As pinned prevents the timer from being queued on a remote CPU
> mod timer is perfectly fine for many cases.
>
> add_timer_on() is really about queueing a timer on a dedicated CPU, which
> is often enough a remote CPU.
Frankly speaking I still think add_timer_on() is preferred here
because mod_timer() users will really need to be careful to make sure
they'll pin the timers correctly all the time, and I assume that's why
we've tried to find all the TIMER_PINNED users and tried to make sure
there's nothing wrong on using them during previous discussion (and
more than half of them do use add_timer_on() which seems to be good).
In all cases, I'll take your suggestion to drop the last sentence.
Thanks for reviewing this document patch. I'll repost.
--
Peter Xu
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