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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: linux-mm@kvack.org, Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Mark Brown <Mark.Brown@arm.com>,
	Steven Price <Steven.Price@arm.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	Sri Krishna chowdary <schowdary@nvidia.com>,
	Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org, x86@kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm/pgtable/debug: Add test validating architecture page table helpers
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:54:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190726195457.GI30641@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3bb0420-584c-de3b-2439-8702bc09595e@arm.com>

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:17:11AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> > But 'page' isn't necessarily PMD-aligned.  I don't think we can rely on
> > architectures doing the right thing if asked to make a PMD for a randomly
> > aligned page.
> > 
> > How about finding the physical address of something like kernel_init(),
> 
> Physical address corresponding to the symbol in the kernel text segment ?

Yes.  We need the address of something that's definitely memory.
The stack might be in vmalloc space.  We can't allocate memory from the
allocator that's PUD-aligned.  This seems like a reasonable approximation
to something that might work.

> > and using the corresponding pte/pmd/pud/p4d/pgd that encompasses that
> 
> So I guess this will help us use pte/pmd/pud/p4d/pgd entries from a real and
> present mapping rather then making them up for test purpose. Although we are
> not creating real page tables here just wondering if this could some how
> affect these real mapping in anyway from some accessors. The current proposal
> stays clear from anything real - allocates, evaluates and releases.

I think that's a mistake.  As Russell said, the ARM p*d manipulation
functions expect to operate on tables, not on individual entries
constructed on the stack.

So I think the right thing to do here is allocate an mm, then do the
pgd_alloc / p4d_alloc / pud_alloc / pmd_alloc / pte_alloc() steps giving
you real page tables that you can manipulate.

Then destroy them, of course.  And don't access through them.

> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_PUD
> >> +static void pud_basic_tests(void)
> > 
> > Is this the right ifdef?
> 
> IIUC THP at PUD is where the pud_t entries are directly operated upon and the
> corresponding accessors are present only when HAVE_ARCH_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_PUD
> is enabled. Am I missing something here ?

Maybe I am.  I thought we could end up operating on PUDs for kernel mappings,
even without transparent hugepages turned on.

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From: Matthew Wilcox <willy@infradead.org>
To: Anshuman Khandual <anshuman.khandual@arm.com>
Cc: Mark Rutland <mark.rutland@arm.com>,
	Kees Cook <keescook@chromium.org>,
	Sri Krishna chowdary <schowdary@nvidia.com>,
	Ard Biesheuvel <ard.biesheuvel@linaro.org>,
	Masahiro Yamada <yamada.masahiro@socionext.com>,
	Tetsuo Handa <penguin-kernel@i-love.sakura.ne.jp>,
	x86@kernel.org, Dave Hansen <dave.hansen@intel.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, Steven Price <Steven.Price@arm.com>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Mark Brown <Mark.Brown@arm.com>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	Michal Hocko <mhocko@kernel.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC] mm/pgtable/debug: Add test validating architecture page table helpers
Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2019 12:54:57 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190726195457.GI30641@bombadil.infradead.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <c3bb0420-584c-de3b-2439-8702bc09595e@arm.com>

On Fri, Jul 26, 2019 at 10:17:11AM +0530, Anshuman Khandual wrote:
> > But 'page' isn't necessarily PMD-aligned.  I don't think we can rely on
> > architectures doing the right thing if asked to make a PMD for a randomly
> > aligned page.
> > 
> > How about finding the physical address of something like kernel_init(),
> 
> Physical address corresponding to the symbol in the kernel text segment ?

Yes.  We need the address of something that's definitely memory.
The stack might be in vmalloc space.  We can't allocate memory from the
allocator that's PUD-aligned.  This seems like a reasonable approximation
to something that might work.

> > and using the corresponding pte/pmd/pud/p4d/pgd that encompasses that
> 
> So I guess this will help us use pte/pmd/pud/p4d/pgd entries from a real and
> present mapping rather then making them up for test purpose. Although we are
> not creating real page tables here just wondering if this could some how
> affect these real mapping in anyway from some accessors. The current proposal
> stays clear from anything real - allocates, evaluates and releases.

I think that's a mistake.  As Russell said, the ARM p*d manipulation
functions expect to operate on tables, not on individual entries
constructed on the stack.

So I think the right thing to do here is allocate an mm, then do the
pgd_alloc / p4d_alloc / pud_alloc / pmd_alloc / pte_alloc() steps giving
you real page tables that you can manipulate.

Then destroy them, of course.  And don't access through them.

> >> +#ifdef CONFIG_HAVE_ARCH_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_PUD
> >> +static void pud_basic_tests(void)
> > 
> > Is this the right ifdef?
> 
> IIUC THP at PUD is where the pud_t entries are directly operated upon and the
> corresponding accessors are present only when HAVE_ARCH_TRANSPARENT_HUGEPAGE_PUD
> is enabled. Am I missing something here ?

Maybe I am.  I thought we could end up operating on PUDs for kernel mappings,
even without transparent hugepages turned on.

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  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-26 19:55 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25  6:55 [RFC] mm/debug: Add tests for architecture exported page table helpers Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-25  6:55 ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-25  6:55 ` [RFC] mm/pgtable/debug: Add test validating architecture " Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-25  6:55   ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-25 14:39   ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-25 14:39     ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-25 21:38     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-07-25 21:38       ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-07-25 21:42       ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-25 21:42         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-25 21:58         ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-07-25 21:58           ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-07-25 22:56           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-25 22:56             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-26  4:47     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-26  4:47       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-26 19:54       ` Matthew Wilcox [this message]
2019-07-26 19:54         ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-29  8:32         ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-29  8:32           ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-30 17:03           ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-07-30 17:03             ` Matthew Wilcox
2019-08-05  4:35             ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-08-05  4:35               ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-25 17:07   ` Catalin Marinas
2019-07-25 17:07     ` Catalin Marinas
2019-07-26  4:28     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-26  4:28       ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-25 21:54   ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-07-25 21:54     ` Russell King - ARM Linux admin
2019-07-26  5:10     ` Anshuman Khandual
2019-07-26  5:10       ` Anshuman Khandual

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