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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: "Allan W. Nielsen" <allan.nielsen@microchip.com>
Cc: Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>,
	Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	roopa@cumulusnetworks.com, davem@davemloft.net,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] net: bridge: Allow bridge to joing multicast groups
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 05:02:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190727030223.GA29731@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190726195010.7x75rr74v7ph3m6m@lx-anielsen.microsemi.net>

> As you properly guessed, this model is quite different from what we are used to.

Yes, it takes a while to get the idea that the hardware is just an
accelerator for what the Linux stack can already do. And if the switch
cannot do some feature, pass the frame to Linux so it can handle it.

You need to keep in mind that there could be other ports in the bridge
than switch ports, and those ports might be interested in the
multicast traffic. Hence the CPU needs to see the traffic. But IGMP
snooping can be used to optimise this. But you still need to be
careful, eg. IPv6 Neighbour discovery has often been broken on
mv88e6xxx because we have been too aggressive with filtering
multicast.

	Andrew

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From: Andrew Lunn <andrew@lunn.ch>
To: "Allan W. Nielsen" <allan.nielsen@microchip.com>
Cc: Nikolay Aleksandrov <nikolay@cumulusnetworks.com>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, roopa@cumulusnetworks.com,
	bridge@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	davem@davemloft.net,
	Horatiu Vultur <horatiu.vultur@microchip.com>
Subject: Re: [Bridge] [PATCH] net: bridge: Allow bridge to joing multicast groups
Date: Sat, 27 Jul 2019 05:02:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20190727030223.GA29731@lunn.ch> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20190726195010.7x75rr74v7ph3m6m@lx-anielsen.microsemi.net>

> As you properly guessed, this model is quite different from what we are used to.

Yes, it takes a while to get the idea that the hardware is just an
accelerator for what the Linux stack can already do. And if the switch
cannot do some feature, pass the frame to Linux so it can handle it.

You need to keep in mind that there could be other ports in the bridge
than switch ports, and those ports might be interested in the
multicast traffic. Hence the CPU needs to see the traffic. But IGMP
snooping can be used to optimise this. But you still need to be
careful, eg. IPv6 Neighbour discovery has often been broken on
mv88e6xxx because we have been too aggressive with filtering
multicast.

	Andrew

  reply	other threads:[~2019-07-27  3:02 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 86+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-07-25 11:44 [PATCH] net: bridge: Allow bridge to joing multicast groups Horatiu Vultur
2019-07-25 11:44 ` [Bridge] " Horatiu Vultur
2019-07-25 13:06 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-25 13:06   ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-25 13:21   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-25 13:21     ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-25 14:21     ` Horatiu Vultur
2019-07-25 14:21       ` [Bridge] " Horatiu Vultur
2019-07-26  8:41       ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-26  8:41         ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-26  9:26         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-26  9:26           ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-26 12:02           ` Horatiu Vultur
2019-07-26 12:02             ` [Bridge] " Horatiu Vultur
2019-07-26 12:31             ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-26 12:31               ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 12:14               ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 12:14                 ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 12:22                 ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 12:22                   ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 12:50                   ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 12:50                     ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 13:14                   ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 13:14                     ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 13:42                     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 13:42                       ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 13:52                       ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 13:52                         ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 14:21                         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 14:21                           ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-29 14:35                           ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 14:35                             ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 17:51                             ` Ido Schimmel
2019-07-29 17:51                               ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2019-07-30  6:27                               ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30  6:27                                 ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30  7:06                                 ` Ido Schimmel
2019-07-30  7:06                                   ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2019-07-30  8:30                                   ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30  8:30                                     ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30  8:58                                     ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-30  8:58                                       ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-30  9:21                                       ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30  9:21                                         ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30  9:55                                         ` Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-30  9:55                                           ` [Bridge] " Nikolay Aleksandrov
2019-07-30 11:23                                           ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30 11:23                                             ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30 10:04                                     ` Ido Schimmel
2019-07-30 10:04                                       ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2019-07-30 12:19                                       ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30 12:19                                         ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30 14:34                                 ` Andrew Lunn
2019-07-30 14:34                                   ` [Bridge] " Andrew Lunn
2019-07-30 19:00                                   ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-30 19:00                                     ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-31  3:31                                     ` Andrew Lunn
2019-07-31  3:31                                       ` [Bridge] " Andrew Lunn
2019-07-31  8:01                                       ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-31  8:01                                         ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-31 13:45                                         ` Andrew Lunn
2019-07-31 13:45                                           ` [Bridge] " Andrew Lunn
2019-07-31 19:38                                           ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-31 19:38                                             ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-08-01 14:22               ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-08-01 14:22                 ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-26 13:46             ` Andrew Lunn
2019-07-26 13:46               ` [Bridge] " Andrew Lunn
2019-07-26 19:50               ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-26 19:50                 ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-27  3:02                 ` Andrew Lunn [this message]
2019-07-27  3:02                   ` Andrew Lunn
2019-07-28 19:15                   ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-28 19:15                     ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-28 23:07                     ` Andrew Lunn
2019-07-28 23:07                       ` [Bridge] " Andrew Lunn
2019-07-29  6:09                     ` Ido Schimmel
2019-07-29  6:09                       ` [Bridge] " Ido Schimmel
2019-07-29 12:43                       ` Allan W. Nielsen
2019-07-29 12:43                         ` [Bridge] " Allan W. Nielsen
2019-08-01 19:17 ` Vivien Didelot
2019-08-01 19:17   ` [Bridge] " Vivien Didelot
2019-08-01 19:48   ` Horatiu Vultur
2019-08-01 19:48     ` [Bridge] " Horatiu Vultur
2019-08-01 20:08     ` Vivien Didelot
2019-08-01 20:08       ` [Bridge] " Vivien Didelot

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